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Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:07 am
by Sojourner
It will be interesting to see what happens over this idea, some are hinting that if it cant get through a double dissolution election will be called, I cant see that happening yet anything is possible in politics I suppose!
Nick Xenophon gains ground on Rudd's stimulus plan
The Australian
THE immediate future of the Rudd Government's $42 billion economic stimulus package is in the hands of Nick Xenophon today, with the independent senator locked in fierce horse-trading with Labor MPs.
With the Senate due to vote on the bill a second time today, Wayne Swan was attempting last night to persuade Senator Xenophon to change his vote after he sided with the Opposition to defeat the bill yesterday afternoon.
But it appears the Government has given some ground on Senator Xenophon's demands for a better deal for the Murray-Darling Basin.
``We have agreed to go some way on that,'' Assistant Treasurer Chris Bowen told ABC television this morning, adding the Government wanted to see money already allocated to the basin spent efficiently.
``There's a long way to go ... and there should be more news later in the day."
The Greens and Family First's Steve Fielding voted with the Government, but Labor needed the support of all crossbenchers to get the package through against Coalition opposition.
But Senator Xenophon stood his ground after insisting on the inclusion of an amendment to bring forward $5.35 billion to save the Murray-Darling Basin.
The defeat of the stimulus package outraged industry groups and drew the wrath of the Government, which immediately took it back to the House of Representatives, which sent it back to the Senate for another vote today.
"What happened in the Senate this afternoon was that the Government voted for jobs and the Liberal and National parties voted against jobs," Treasurer Wayne Swan said. "What happened in the Senate this afternoon is that the Labor Party and some of the minor parties voted for nation-building and the Liberal and National parties voted against nation-building."
The Government had offered Senator Xenophon $400 million to bring forward water buybacks in the basin.
Last night, he would not reveal how much money he would require for the Murray-Darling in exchange for his vote, but said he was committed to coming to an agreement.
"I didn't come to Canberra to make friends, I came here to make a difference," Senator Xenophon said.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:26 am
by Wedgie
Ive always hated the guy as he's only ever wanted publicity and the way he opposed Norths pokies whilst defending a pokie baron as a lawyer showed me how much of a hypocrite and lowlife he is BUT despite his motives (they're probably publicity and ego driven) I think he is doing the right thing and hopes he sticks to his guns.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:41 am
by smac
Heard a news flash on the radio about 20 minutes ago indicating that some agreement had been reached and NX will now support the legislation. Not sure what the gain for NX was, that wasn't mentioned.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:57 am
by A Mum
He's 'addressing' the media at 11am.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:05 am
by smac
How wonderful for the media. I wish I could be there.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:35 am
by The Big Shrek
Wedgie wrote:Ive always hated the guy as he's only ever wanted publicity and the way he opposed Norths pokies whilst defending a pokie baron as a lawyer showed me how much of a hypocrite and lowlife he is BUT despite his motives (they're probably publicity and ego driven) I think he is doing the right thing and hopes he sticks to his guns.
Sorry Wedgie, little thing called ethics and professional conduct rules prevents you picking and choosing clients according to personal views. What a great idea, only popular people get legal representation!
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:38 am
by Leaping Lindner
"Look at me national media. I'm really important."
Hard to believe he use to be a young liberal.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:41 am
by mick
Leaping Lindner wrote:"Look at me national media. I'm really important."
Hard to believe he use to be a young liberal.
When I was at Uni he started as Liberal finished as Labor. Shows a certain flexibility

Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:45 am
by A Mum
I think we're still waiting for him to address the media.
As Channel 10 keep saying "We'll cross live" ...
but they haven't yet.
Edit**
This though...
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:45 am
by mick
"This morning the treasurer and the water minister (Penny Wong) have agreed to a package of $900 million in spending commitments including fast-tracking spending for the Murray-Darling-Basin, for its economy over and above any previous commitments,” Senator Xenophon said.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:50 am
by redandblack
What an enormous surprise
I never thought they would work out a deal

Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:48 pm
by Sojourner
These are the "extras" that Nick Xenophon was able to negotiate for, Rann was on the radio this morning critisizing him for not having passed the Stimulus Package, clearly Mike Rann wont be all that interested in the funding won for S.A which he himself was not able to do........
Senator Xenophon said he would vote for the package after winning $900 million in extra funds for the ailing Murray-Darling basin and other water projects.
It involves bringing forward an extra $500 million over the next three years for water buybacks, $200 million in grants to assist local communities save water and to better manage water and $200 million in stormwater harvesting projects.
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:14 pm
by TroyGFC
Well done Mr X, he seams to be doing what the democrats to shamefully didnt do. I person can make a difference as he has shown. And better still I still get $900!!! Rann you must be quiet embarrassed as it wasnt you who did anything to help save the Murray!!
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:41 pm
by Cambridge Clarrie
Whether you like him or not, what he's done will at least see $900 million used towards assisting the Murray - a good thing. The whole purpose of this stimulus package is to increase purchasing and therefore retain jobs in retail, manufacturing, etc. In reality I think that the government are in many instances taking the common wealth to help people pay for previous spending that they couldn't afford. Can someone please explain to me how someone using their $900 to pay off a 12 month old credit card debt will be stimulating the economy???

Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:43 pm
by smac
'Cos they'll chock up the credit card with another $900 in no time at all Clarrie!
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:34 pm
by Dog_ger
Dog_ger Thinks.
What will save us is EMPLOYMENT.
Lets put all efforts into keeping employment the same.
No Employer to cut jobs.
Thats where the $$$ should be channelled..!
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:04 pm
by heater31
So when does my cheque for $900 arrive Mr Xenophon and Mr Rudd????
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:48 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
Ive been a big knocker of Mr. X in the past as a stirrer and an attention seeker. What he has done in 1 week is more than any member of parliment has acheived for the Murray in the past 10 years. Whilst I am sure he has not gained many fans across Australia who are not directly affected by the Murray, he certainly has won the respect out of all those affected by the Murray on a daily basis. He definatly has won my vote on this occasion. If the Murray goes under so does South Australia. Well done Mr X
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:37 pm
by redden whites
What has Mr X actually bought?
Will buying out water allocations in full( even though most who have an allocation are on about 2-5% of that allocation) actually deliver a drop to the river or lower lakes ?Before hailing Mr X and promising him your vote in 5 years time lets wait and see if he as actually delivered anything. He did not buy any rain today folks
P.S. has anyone seen all that water up the river that Martin Hamilton- Smith was bleating about 6 months ago about getting down to the lakes?
Re: Nick Xenophon rejects the Stimulus Package

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Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:07 am
by Psyber
redden whites wrote: P.S. has anyone seen all that water up the river that Martin Hamilton- Smith was bleating about 6 months ago about getting down to the lakes?
Until we get rid of the upriver high water use activites, like cotton and rice growing, not much water is going to reach SA.
And NSW and Victorian pollies are invested in these industries in more ways than one I suspect..
I boggle that anyone thought growing cotton or rice on this continent was ever a good move.