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Postby Gozu » Mon May 28, 2012 2:45 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:Oh dear. Probably pays to know where your Party leader (and Senate leader) was born before talking crap like this..... :oops:

http://www.news.com.au/national/liberal ... 4154695c4e


She's not the sharpest tool in the shed Kelly O like you said forgetting Abbott was born in England but typical Libs playing to their redneck base.
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Postby southee » Mon May 28, 2012 4:58 pm

Gozu wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:Oh dear. Probably pays to know where your Party leader (and Senate leader) was born before talking crap like this..... :oops:

http://www.news.com.au/national/liberal ... 4154695c4e


She's not the sharpest tool in the shed Kelly O like you said forgetting Abbott was born in England but typical Libs playing to their redneck base.


Their "redneck" base ??? Surely Doug Cameron has more "redneck" friends than the Liberals!!!

The man is the king of "redneckvillle"!!!!
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Postby wycbloods » Mon May 28, 2012 5:05 pm

southee wrote:
Gozu wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:Oh dear. Probably pays to know where your Party leader (and Senate leader) was born before talking crap like this..... :oops:

http://www.news.com.au/national/liberal ... 4154695c4e


She's not the sharpest tool in the shed Kelly O like you said forgetting Abbott was born in England but typical Libs playing to their redneck base.


Their "redneck" base ??? Surely Doug Cameron has more "redneck" friends than the Liberals!!!

The man is the king of "redneckvillle"!!!!


What do you base that on Southee?


Do you think the comments Kelly made are appropriate?
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Postby southee » Mon May 28, 2012 5:14 pm

Yep pretty stupid comment by Kelly.

But gozu said "redneck liberals " which I don't agree with as Doug Cameron is a known union radical who is known to stir things up for the worse.... His hatred of gillard ATM is embarrassing!!!
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby mick » Mon May 28, 2012 5:46 pm

Surely the Libs have bluenecks? ;)
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Gozu » Mon May 28, 2012 5:46 pm

There's nothing radical about Doug Cameron southie he's one of the last true Labor people left in the party (Lindsay Tanner used to privately refer to Gillard as a "conservative careerist") so I can understand him coming out against Labor's continued drift to the Right.

Have you seriously forgotten about all the racist dog-whistling Howard used to do? All the OTT bullshit about asylum seekers, refusing to apologise to Aboriginals, the Lindsay pamphlet scandal etc?
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Postby Gozu » Mon May 28, 2012 5:47 pm

mick wrote:Surely the Libs have bluenecks? ;)


Burnside types? Rednecks with money.
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Postby Psyber » Tue May 29, 2012 10:14 am

Stay in school and live longer - it is not just about money: http://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/compare/cr ... /?cmp=glaf
According to George Vaillant, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, education is one of the biggest determinants of longevity. Additionally, behavioural factors contribute as well. For instance, he points out that people who attend university tend to smoke less, drink less and are less likely to be obese – factors that all play a part in longevity.

These findings come from Vaillant's longest-running longitudinal study of health in the US. He closely studied more than 500 Harvard students and inner-city Boston men since 1937. Out of the guinea pigs, Valliant found that the Harvard students lived an average of 10 years longer compared to the inner-city Boston men.
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Postby Sojourner » Tue May 29, 2012 3:49 pm

Gozu wrote:There's nothing radical about Doug Cameron southie he's one of the last true Labor people left in the party


Just out of interest, I did catch myself wondering the other day how the ALP would look if there way a vacancy for the leader of the ALP and Doug Cameron won the job? It gets more than a little tiring watching the ALP trying to be more conservative than the Liberal Party. Would not hurt the ALP at all to rediscover the roots of where they came from once again, which interestingly in SA was a mixture of the Trade Union Movement and Methodist Church members who felt the ALP best represented their social justice views on working families and others in the community in politics.
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Postby Gozu » Tue May 29, 2012 4:57 pm

Sojourner wrote:
Gozu wrote:There's nothing radical about Doug Cameron southie he's one of the last true Labor people left in the party


Just out of interest, I did catch myself wondering the other day how the ALP would look if there way a vacancy for the leader of the ALP and Doug Cameron won the job? It gets more than a little tiring watching the ALP trying to be more conservative than the Liberal Party. Would not hurt the ALP at all to rediscover the roots of where they came from once again, which interestingly in SA was a mixture of the Trade Union Movement and Methodist Church members who felt the ALP best represented their social justice views on working families and others in the community in politics.


Well said. On the bolded bit in QT today Gillard was bragging about introducing tougher penalties for single parents on the dole (suspending their dole in full until they comply with a directive) as opposed to the Liberal Party which didn't even go that far when they in government. Evidently something to be proud of PM.

A very sad state of affairs continually seeing the ALP trying to out-right the right-wing party.
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Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue May 29, 2012 5:42 pm

Right wing still has the connotations of ultra conservatism (ala US Republican Party) whereas both of these parties are middle of the road, albeit I'd say Abbott has moved them right.
Mind you - he's only doing what you want the Labor Party to do - move from the middle.
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Postby Psyber » Wed May 30, 2012 11:59 am

Here's a twist.
Global cooling destroys civilisation 3000 years ago: http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/worl ... explained/
The civilization developed about 5,200 years ago, and slowly disintegrated between 3,900 and 3,000 years ago — populations largely abandoned cities, migrating toward the east....
… "In the last 10,000 years, the Northern Hemisphere had the highest insolation from 7,000 to 5,000 years ago, and since then insolation there decreased.
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Postby Psyber » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:47 pm

More on Health issues: http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news ... xMTc4NDQS1

Because the site may require a login to read I quote the core bit:
Medical indemnity insurers are warning GPs not to take part in the looming national e-health system as they will be liable if patient records are hacked.

Under conditions labelled “absurd” by MDA National, GPs wanting to take part in the personally controlled electronic health record (PCEHR) scheme would have to sign a contract agreeing that the government is not liable for breaches of patients’ records. Doctors’ medical indemnity insurance policies would also not cover them if someone in their practice accessed a patient’s record without authorisation.

Associate Professor Julian Rait, president of MDA National told Australian Doctor: “The contract doctors have to sign will put the legal liability on the GP."

Less than a month out from the start date for the rollout of the $467 million national e-health records scheme, Professor Rait smells a rat.
“You’ve got to wonder whether they’re creating these hurdles because they really are not ready to go with the system. Perhaps they’re trying to make it impossible to get it up on July 1,” he said. “Then the government will be able to say, it’s an argument with doctors that’s preventing it, when in fact, these are completely absurd sorts of conditions and no one with appropriate legal advice would agree to them.”
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Q. » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:24 pm

I noticed our economy was in the shits again :-j

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/5206.0?OpenDocument
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby mick » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:05 am

Q. wrote:I noticed our economy was in the shits again :-j

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/5206.0?OpenDocument

How do things look if WA is taken out?Let's hope they don't leave the commonwealth
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Q. » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:20 am

mick wrote:
Q. wrote:I noticed our economy was in the shits again :-j

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/5206.0?OpenDocument

How do things look if WA is taken out?Let's hope they don't leave the commonwealth


Figures show that mining wasn't the only contributor.
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby westcoastpanther » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:30 am

The Coalition look forward to taking it over....
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Q. » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:13 pm

I look forward to them ******* it up.
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Postby westcoastpanther » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:16 pm

Q. wrote:I look forward to them ******* it up.


Like they did when they left Labor with a lovely surplus to use and make themselves look like magicians during the GFC
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Postby Q. » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:26 pm

westcoastpanther wrote:
Q. wrote:I look forward to them ******* it up.


Like they did when they left Labor with a lovely surplus to use and make themselves look like magicians during the GFC


The surplus that you didn't want them to use?

Howard and Costello aren't around anymore. Abbott and Hockey are lightweights.
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