(Miscellaneous debris)

[Gozu]

Actual Unemployment Figure reported to be 9.3%

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/roy-morga ... 6363248099

The article misses the point. The ABS is using the same parameters they've been using for years.

Yeah but it's different when Labor are in government and you take anything a Liberal shill like Morgan comes up with with a large grain of salt.

[mick]

Actual Unemployment Figure reported to be 9.3%

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/roy-morga ... 6363248099

The article misses the point. The ABS is using the same parameters they've been using for years.

Yeah but it's different when Labor are in government and you take anything a Liberal shill like Morgan comes up with with a large grain of salt.

And we'll be exporting jobs soon in the socialist experiment known as the carbon tax

[Q.]

Actual Unemployment Figure reported to be 9.3%

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/roy-morga ... 6363248099

The article misses the point. The ABS is using the same parameters they've been using for years.

Yeah but it's different when Labor are in government and you take anything a Liberal shill like Morgan comes up with with a large grain of salt.

And we'll be exporting jobs soon in the socialist experiment known as the carbon tax

They were already exporting them thanks to the capitalist experiment known as hedge funding.

[Psyber]

And we'll be exporting jobs soon in the socialist experiment known as the carbon tax

They were already exporting them thanks to the capitalist experiment known as hedge funding.

The job exportation industry - Australia's fastest growing one - began with the lowering of tariff barriers so that the Hawke/Keating government could artificially lower CPI and hold down wage rises.
Under the "Accord", which they had conned the unions with, the unions had agreed they would not demand wage rises above CPI, so the voters did not get worried.
At the time critics were told it would all be OK and would just force our industry to be more efficient.

[Sojourner]

Actual Unemployment Figure reported to be 9.3%

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/roy-morga ... 6363248099

The article misses the point. The ABS is using the same parameters they've been using for years.

Yeah but it's different when Labor are in government and you take anything a Liberal shill like Morgan comes up with with a large grain of salt.

Have to disagree, its no different if either dumb or dumber are in government, the punter is still getting screwed over and it should be changed to give a more representative figure to the people, as one of the chaps said on the comments section of the article, one hour a week is not employment...

[Q.]

Actual Unemployment Figure reported to be 9.3%

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/roy-morga ... 6363248099

The article misses the point. The ABS is using the same parameters they've been using for years.

Yeah but it's different when Labor are in government and you take anything a Liberal shill like Morgan comes up with with a large grain of salt.

Have to disagree, its no different if either dumb or dumber are in government, the punter is still getting screwed over and it should be changed to give a more representative figure to the people, as one of the chaps said on the comments section of the article, one hour a week is not employment...

Yes, it should've changed...ten years ago!

[Leaping Lindner]

They were already exporting them thanks to the capitalist experiment known as QANTAS.

Edited for accuracy. Record profit losses and at the same time record executive salaries. Long live "free enterprise".

[Psyber]

They were already exporting them thanks to the capitalist experiment known as QANTAS.

Edited for accuracy. Record profit losses and at the same time record executive salaries. Long live "free enterprise".

The QANTAS issue is an interesting one which I am watching because I own a few shares - inherited, not bought by me.

They say they are consolidating the domestic part which is viable, while the International component is losing money and unsaleable. However, I wonder..
Once the International component is established outside Australia it may be able to work from a lower wage environment and thus compete with other Asian competitors.
Then the domestic arm may become less important.

It will be interestingly to watch - especially since I only have a few shares and won't be too bothered if they bottom out.

I do agree that executive salaries are excessive - not only in private companies where the shareholders and the customers are paying for them, but in government bureaucracies in all three levels of government where we are ALL paying for them.

[Psyber]

For a shift away from Business to Bureaucracy: http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news ... yODQxNzAS1
This may not let you in without a password so I quote:

A $25 million super clinic in Adelaide’s south is being staffed by GPs from a practice less than 2km down the road who drive between the two centres to see patients. The revelation is the latest embarrassing development in the Federal Government’s $650 million super clinic policy, now being formally investigated by the Auditor General. Christies Beach Medical Centre has been providing GP services at the GP Plus Super Clinic in Noarlunga for the past two months, running it as a branch practice. The rate at which it is renting the rooms is confidential.

Australian Doctor tried to contact the practice manager, but was told she was in the car, driving between the clinics.
When practice principal Dr Barry Dowell returned our calls, he agreed that although the town had a “nice new building”, it had “no extra doctors” and no extra capacity to see patients. “The view is that we will be able to recruit extra doctors because we will now have new rooms at the super clinic,” he said, adding there was a desperate need for new doctors in the area. “At the moment we are spreading ourselves around to try and get this up and running,” he said, with the practice’s 12 FTE GPs each doing a few days’ work at the super clinic every week.

But Dr Dowell admitted that part of the reason his practice put in a bid to run GP services at the clinic was to minimise the business threat of the super clinic, less than a four-minute drive away. “Had we lost the bid, the super clinic was potentially a threat to our business. I don’t know how big a threat, but it was very much on our minds in deciding to bid,” he said.

Asked whether Dr Dowell is a true believer in the super clinics, he said: “The government has built a very nice building and it is now up to the local service to use those facilities well … Time will tell if it is a good use of government money.”

Last week the Auditor General announced it would assess the Department of Health and Ageing’s management of the super clinic program — widely considered the government’s flagship primary care reform, but one that has been dogged by problems. It is also expected the audit office will examine the tender process for contracts to build clinics. There have been long-running allegations that clinic locations were chosen by Labor officials to boost the party’s popularity in key electoral seats. The health department has acknowledged it had no hand in the decision-making.

The announcement of an audit report comes in the wake of a series of high-profile failures, including the collapse of a planned super clinic in Sorell, Tasmania at a cost of $500,000, and the decision to scrap a super clinic in Darwin because no one had made a bid to build it.

Last year, the government was forced to launch a $3.2 million bailout of the Redcliffe clinic in Queensland.

Earlier this year, a company called gpSolutions, which operates the Modbury super clinic in Adelaide, walked away from its contract after struggling to find enough GPs to staff it. At a cost of $25 million, Modbury is the most expensive super clinic in Australia.

The government also stripped $44 million out of the super clinics program in its latest budget, but without taking a single cent away from any of the clinics.
According to budget papers, the money was for “development, networking and other operational activities”, which will now be left to the Medicare Locals network.

The audit report will be tabled in Parliament next April.
AMA president Dr Steve Hambleton said super clinics were a failed initiative in concept, design and implementation, and that a proper audit was overdue.

Super clinic casualties:
Scrapped: Sorrell, Tasmania
Scrapped: Darwin, Northern Territories
Bailed out: Redcliffe, Queensland
Abandoned by service provider: Modbury, South Australia

[Gozu]

The Federal Greens are standing by Senator Lee Rhiannon who has admitted to secretly writing part of an article which attacked her own party.

The February article appeared under the the name of another author and accused the Greens of being in the "same league as the old parties" for accepting a $1.7 million donation from travel website entrepreneur Graeme Wood.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-24/r ... ty/4030468

[Sojourner]

The Federal Greens are standing by Senator Lee Rhiannon who has admitted to secretly writing part of an article which attacked her own party.

The February article appeared under the the name of another author and accused the Greens of being in the "same league as the old parties" for accepting a $1.7 million donation from travel website entrepreneur Graeme Wood.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-24/r ... ty/4030468

Interestingly Sarah Hanson-Young was unavailable to be on the ABC radio this morning to answer accusations that she and the Greens are bigoted and discriminatory because they see "marriage" as only for two people and are excluding those that wish to have Polygamy or menage a trois(?) styled relationships recognised in the same way that the Greens are pushing for same sex relationships to be. I concede that it would be interesting to hear an answer from the Greens on why that is the case that they can push for marriage rights for one group of the community, but effectivley discriminate for another?

[Q.]

The Federal Greens are standing by Senator Lee Rhiannon who has admitted to secretly writing part of an article which attacked her own party.

The February article appeared under the the name of another author and accused the Greens of being in the "same league as the old parties" for accepting a $1.7 million donation from travel website entrepreneur Graeme Wood.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-24/r ... ty/4030468

Interestingly Sarah Hanson-Young was unavailable to be on the ABC radio this morning to answer accusations that she and the Greens are bigoted and discriminatory because they see "marriage" as only for two people and are excluding those that wish to have Polygamy or menage a trois(?) styled relationships recognised in the same way that the Greens are pushing for same sex relationships to be. I concede that it would be interesting to hear an answer from the Greens on why that is the case that they can push for marriage rights for one group of the community, but effectivley discriminate for another?

It would not be hard to counter that ridiculous argument.

[story of my life]

The Federal Greens are standing by Senator Lee Rhiannon who has admitted to secretly writing part of an article which attacked her own party.

The February article appeared under the the name of another author and accused the Greens of being in the "same league as the old parties" for accepting a $1.7 million donation from travel website entrepreneur Graeme Wood.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-24/r ... ty/4030468

Interestingly Sarah Hanson-Young was unavailable to be on the ABC radio this morning to answer accusations that she and the Greens are bigoted and discriminatory because they see "marriage" as only for two people and are excluding those that wish to have Polygamy or menage a trois(?) styled relationships recognised in the same way that the Greens are pushing for same sex relationships to be. I concede that it would be interesting to hear an answer from the Greens on why that is the case that they can push for marriage rights for one group of the community, but effectivley discriminate for another?

Like what the coalition and the ALP are doing now

[Gozu]

Interestingly Sarah Hanson-Young was unavailable to be on the ABC radio this morning to answer accusations that she and the Greens are bigoted and discriminatory because they see "marriage" as only for two people and are excluding those that wish to have Polygamy or menage a trois(?) styled relationships recognised in the same way that the Greens are pushing for same sex relationships to be. I concede that it would be interesting to hear an answer from the Greens on why that is the case that they can push for marriage rights for one group of the community, but effectivley discriminate for another?

Oh yeah they've been wedged well and truly on that alright, I too am waiting to hear their thoughts on marriage between humans and animals, I mean a little consistency perhaps?

Why do the Greens hate animals?

[Jimmy_041]

Interestingly Sarah Hanson-Young was unavailable to be on the ABC radio this morning to answer accusations that she and the Greens are bigoted and discriminatory because they see "marriage" as only for two people and are excluding those that wish to have Polygamy or menage a trois(?) styled relationships recognised in the same way that the Greens are pushing for same sex relationships to be. I concede that it would be interesting to hear an answer from the Greens on why that is the case that they can push for marriage rights for one group of the community, but effectivley discriminate for another?

Oh yeah they've been wedged well and truly on that alright, I too am waiting to hear their thoughts on marriage between humans and animals, I mean a little consistency perhaps?

Why do the Greens hate animals?

Coz they $hit in the forests?

[dedja]

FFS ..

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6367152690

POLICE should have to pay the hefty legal bill Liberal Senator Mary Jo Fisher incurred defending shoplifting and assault charges, a court has heard.

[GWW]

FFS ..

Lets hope common sense prevails.

(although the justice system isn't always known for common sense unfortunately).

[Psyber]

FFS ..

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6367152690

POLICE should have to pay the hefty legal bill Liberal Senator Mary Jo Fisher incurred defending shoplifting and assault charges, a court has heard.

Well, it is not a simple situation.

If I were charged with something and not found guilty I'd apply for costs and expect to get them.
However, if one was found guilty but no conviction recorded it may be a different matter.

In this case she pleaded guilty of the minor charge but no conviction was recorded for it because of the circumstances.
But she was not found guilty of the charge that made the trial and defence costs necessary.

So, which applies in this case?
Should she pay her own fees for the one she pleaded guilty to, as they would have been if the deal had been accepted, and be reimbursed for the rest?

[Leaping Lindner]

Oh dear. Probably pays to know where your Party leader (and Senate leader) was born before talking crap like this.....

http://www.news.com.au/national/liberal ... 4154695c4e

[Jimmy_041]

I remember Chris Cowdrey having a crack at so many imports in the England side forgetting his dad was born in India