The South Australian Political Landscape

[morell]

Manufacturing is finally closing the last set of doors and thousands of South Australian jobs go with it.

Yep. We're not a low value manufacturing country (or state) and have to adapt. This is an opportunity as much as anything.

Instead of making shit cars for high prices why not build the worlds best medical equipment or sustainable transport or renewable energy machinery,

We cannot and never will be able to again compete with South East Asia and China at the manufacturing game. In my mind Labor recognise this and have tried to change the status quo, but have been met with road blocks.

The world doesn't owe everyone a job. What you do needs to be productive, competitive and sustainable. Manufacturing jobs in Australia aren't any of those things. Whilst I have some sympathy for those out of work, it doesnt go very far as it didnt take too much foresight to see that writing on the wall.

The Northern suburbs are going to be hit the worst, without being stereotypical it's an area that can least afford it.

Agreed and there ought to be significant and maintained training and support, but they have to adapt and shift, not stubbornly hold on to times gone by (wow doesn't this sounds familiar)

Employment opportunities are drying up in many areas, especially full time employment for semi-skilled youths.

Yeah sure but this is the same as the first two,.

Our unemployment rate is what 5.8%? Look around the world and tell me that's bad.

Again, we've been spoilt. But agree work needs to be done to maintain that quite honestly excellent unemployment level.

Construction has been kept afloat by the government spending money it doesn't have.

Agreed. Would be looking at federal tax reform to flush the coffers.

I just bought my second house, second mortgage, I'll be able to claim 100% of the interest on my investment property off of my taxable income. An absolute rort.

Our state leaders are arguing with the other state leaders and federal government about how to sure up our electricity supply.
We're paying more for power than any other state in the country and almost all countries on earth AND it's hardly reliable.

#fakenews.

we had one bad serious blackout two years ago because a ******* storm blew over some powerlines. Yeah its expensive, but so be it, I would rather that than you know, continue to poison the planet for the next generation.

More should be done to support those who cannot afford it however.

I love living here, I'll never leave but I fear for what the future holds for my two young adults at home and what their chances are of the great Australian dream ( 1/4 acre, 3 beds and a shed ).

We're fine. This place is great. It will be great for the next generation too, but we have to stop with the pessimism and woe is me chip on the shoulder bullshit.

Adelaide in particular is thriving.

[Jimmy_041]

Eff off Morell
We don’t allow trolls in this forum

[morell]

Why are you here then?

[morell]

Austria? Unemployment 6.8%
Canada? Unemployment 7.1%
Denmark? Unemployment 6.1%
Ireland? 10%


etc etc etc etc

[morell]

But yeah Trader and Jimmy, I would love to hear about how hard your lives are here in SA.

Do tell.

[Q.]

that's why we're in the position we're in.

I asked jimmy, but I'll ask you too.

What is this dire position that we're in?

I'm not Jimmy or Booney, but I know you like graphs.

Welfare received per capita, by state.

Source: data.gov.au
Date: March 2017



This state is a basket case.

Is that total welfare, including pension, disability, unemployment etc?

[morell]

A large % would be the aged pension (SA has one of the oldest populations).

Those damn governments providing good healthcare so we have an ageing population again! Let them die so I can increase my debt levels and pay less tax god damn it.



Note the Y axis Trader!!

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament ... elfareCost

[morell]

Is that total welfare, including pension, disability, unemployment etc?

This is for SA only:

ABSTUDY (Living allowance) 0.05%
ABSTUDY (Non-living allowance) 0.07%
Age Pension 16.23%
Austudy 0.30%
Carer Allowance 3.66%
Carer Allowance (Child Health Care Card only) 0.12%
Carer Payment 1.52%
Commonwealth Seniors Health Card 1.93%
Disability Support Pension 5.17%
Double Orphan Pension 0.01%
Family Tax Benefit A 8.58%
Family Tax Benefit B 6.67%
Health Care Card 9.13%
Low Income Card 2.62%
Newstart Allowance 5.11%
Parenting Payment Partnered 0.59%
Parenting Payment Single 1.45%
Partner Allowance 0.02%
Pensioner Concession Card 27.02%
Sickness Allowance 0.04%
Special Benefit 0.03%
Widow Allowance 0.08%
Widow B Pension 0.00%
Wife Pension (Partner on Age Pension) 0.04%
Wife Pension (Partner on Disability Support Pension) 0.04%
Youth Allowance (other) 0.66%
Youth Allowance (student and apprentice) 1.25%
Commonwealth Rent Assistance (income units*) 7.62%

Myth: Welfare is for lazy good for nothing free loaders
Reality: Welfare is for old people and those with disabilities.

[Q.]

Is that total welfare, including pension, disability, unemployment etc?

This is for SA only:

ABSTUDY (Living allowance) 0.05%
ABSTUDY (Non-living allowance) 0.07%
Age Pension 16.23%
Austudy 0.30%
Carer Allowance 3.66%
Carer Allowance (Child Health Care Card only) 0.12%
Carer Payment 1.52%
Commonwealth Seniors Health Card 1.93%
Disability Support Pension 5.17%
Double Orphan Pension 0.01%
Family Tax Benefit A 8.58%
Family Tax Benefit B 6.67%
Health Care Card 9.13%
Low Income Card 2.62%
Newstart Allowance 5.11%
Parenting Payment Partnered 0.59%
Parenting Payment Single 1.45%
Partner Allowance 0.02%
Pensioner Concession Card 27.02%
Sickness Allowance 0.04%
Special Benefit 0.03%
Widow Allowance 0.08%
Widow B Pension 0.00%
Wife Pension (Partner on Age Pension) 0.04%
Wife Pension (Partner on Disability Support Pension) 0.04%
Youth Allowance (other) 0.66%
Youth Allowance (student and apprentice) 1.25%
Commonwealth Rent Assistance (income units*) 7.62%

******* pensioners leaching off us taxpayers

[morell]

Scum bags. Push them off to the desert.

Dont they know I need to negatively gear my third property already!?

[morell]

Those ******* grannys and cripples. They're ripping us good hard working taxpayers off.

I mean I had to buy my coffee table at Ikea! IKEA!

#shame #basketcase

[Jimmy_041]

Why are you here then?

I do not respond to online terrorists

[morell]

oh cmon, dont be like that, you'll find i am quite amenable once my demands have been met

I am still waiting to hear about terrible your life is in Adelaide, South Australia is too

[morell]

So I've gone back and read a stack of this thread. So *this* is where all those types hang out. Bahaha

Rarely read a more myopic, self centered, piss-ant, negative, typically Adelaide view on life from multiple posters in my time. Its akin to news.com.au comments section. "Pete from Mylor" and "James from Burnside"

Infrastructure is crumbling! Healthcare is decrepit! The sky is falling! I havent come across any references to protecting the parklands yet but I am not done.

[morell]

Have to love this one from a self confessed liberal voter in 2011:

Anyway, Rann's government will be annihilated at the next election. Hopefully the Libs can be more progressive for SA, which has been treading water for too many years. It's about time mining became a focus. Hospitals, football stadiums and infrastructure will all follow.

[Q.]

Have to love this one from a self confessed liberal voter in 2011:

Anyway, Rann's government will be annihilated at the next election. Hopefully the Libs can be more progressive for SA, which has been treading water for too many years. It's about time mining became a focus. Hospitals, football stadiums and infrastructure will all follow.

[emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]

There was a bloke called Sky Pilot (and various other user names) who was blatantly astroturfing on here... Wouldn't surprise me if half those posts you refer to were his

[Jimmy_041]

oh cmon, dont be like that, you'll find i am quite amenable once my demands have been met

I am still waiting to hear about terrible your life is in Adelaide, South Australia is too

Your AAA is in the post. Enjoy it.....

[heater31]

Infrastructure is crumbling! Healthcare is decrepit! The sky is falling! I havent come across any references to protecting the parklands yet but I am not done.

Seen any public schools recently? They wasted $500 million plus on a sports stadium!

Yet everything is fine according to Morrell. Not saying the opposition would have a magic bullet but we have probably gone backwards as a whole as a result of 15 years of Labor.

[morell]

Have to love this one from a self confessed liberal voter in 2011:

Anyway, Rann's government will be annihilated at the next election. Hopefully the Libs can be more progressive for SA, which has been treading water for too many years. It's about time mining became a focus. Hospitals, football stadiums and infrastructure will all follow.

[emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]

There was a bloke called Sky Pilot (and various other user names) who was blatantly astroturfing on here... Wouldn't surprise me if half those posts you refer to were his

Oh they were everywhere and I did see that dude. Had posts wanting one policy one year and then when that exact same thing gets rolled out three years later by the other side they hate it.

Some of the dire predictions are hilarious. Comparisons to the greek economy, predictions of massive recessions, predictions of 25% unemployment...all utterly wrong yet the despite that, the same rhetoric gets trotted out again and again. Good policy is good policy, Doesn't matter if it Labor, Liberal, The Greens or One Nation. Enough with the picking sides and team based analysis. I loved Pauline Hanson's idea of mandatory pre nups to clean up the courtroom. Great idea!

The way posters carry on in here it's like they're living in Dafur or Mogadishu. Has there been a military coup I havent heard about? Are there drug cartels murdering hundreds of people? Are there cities of people starving?

Get some perspective FFS. We're living in relative paradise.

[morell]

Infrastructure is crumbling! Healthcare is decrepit! The sky is falling! I havent come across any references to protecting the parklands yet but I am not done.

Seen any public schools recently? They wasted $500 million plus on a sports stadium!

Yet everything is fine according to Morrell. Not saying the opposition would have a magic bullet but we have probably gone backwards as a whole as a result of 15 years of Labor.

Just run that through a global filter. You're complaining about the quality of widely available free public education.

Is there a case for a discussion around improving education? Sure!

Is there a case for the hysteria in this thread? **** no.