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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:30 pm
by stan
Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
stan wrote:
shoe boy wrote:Pyne you are a disgrace and I for one await for your press conference Wednesday arvo.

Whoa man, bit heavy for Monday. Whats the poodle up to now?


I believe that Pyne is saying if he doesn't get his University reforms through the Parliament he is going to take the sledgehammer through the funding of Scientists


1700 Research positions would be axed. He's a ******* ferret, isn't he?

Nah hes a poodle.

Also he has in fact backed away from the comments I believe.

The issue again is that instead of working with be senate they are looking to use bully boy tactics only. They need to start trying to work with the senate.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:59 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
it is Politics afterall

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:05 pm
by Look Good In Leather
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
stan wrote:Whoa man, bit heavy for Monday. Whats the poodle up to now?


I believe that Pyne is saying if he doesn't get his University reforms through the Parliament he is going to take the sledgehammer through the funding of Scientists


1700 Research positions would be axed. He's a ******* ferret, isn't he?

Nah hes a poodle.

Also he has in fact backed away from the comments I believe.

The issue again is that instead of working with be senate they are looking to use bully boy tactics only. They need to start trying to work with the senate.


After their criticism of the previous government for "selling-out to the Greens", they cannot be seen to be weak by negotiating

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:06 am
by stan
Look Good In Leather wrote:
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:[quote="stan"]
Whoa man, bit heavy for Monday. Whats the poodle up to now?


I believe that Pyne is saying if he doesn't get his University reforms through the Parliament he is going to take the sledgehammer through the funding of Scientists


1700 Research positions would be axed. He's a ******* ferret, isn't he?

Nah hes a poodle.

Also he has in fact backed away from the comments I believe.

The issue again is that instead of working with be senate they are looking to use bully boy tactics only. They need to start trying to work with the senate.


After their criticism of the previous government for "selling-out to the Greens", they cannot be seen to be weak by negotiating[/quote]
True, but this is different as the previous government were owned by the greens due to the beed for there votes to make government. You need to work with the independent senators to get these items through. This government refuses to do that and looks to the bully tactics straight up. What I'm simply saying is I think they need to consider aanother way.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:19 pm
by GWW
dedja wrote:Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.


Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:24 pm
by Jimmy_041
GWW wrote:
dedja wrote:Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.


Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670


Well, if I read it right, and excluded the world wars as extraordinary, it is the 2nd worst position after Keating, isn't it?

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:13 pm
by bulldogproud2
Jimmy_041 wrote:
GWW wrote:
dedja wrote:Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.


Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670


Well, if I read it right, and excluded the world wars as extraordinary, it is the 2nd worst position after Keating, isn't it?



Definitely not if you compare it against GDP. Using the bottom graph, the gross debt which was inherited by the Abbott government was actually very low by Australian standards when compared against GDP. As stated in the article:

'The Australia Institute's Mr Richardson agreed. He told Fact Check: "All outgoing governments until about 40 years ago left outstanding government debt much larger as a share of GDP than the present government inherited."

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:18 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Abbott was in fine form today

the guy is a lunatic
we would be far better with Clive in charge at this stage

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:27 pm
by Jimmy_041
bulldogproud2 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
GWW wrote:
dedja wrote:Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.


Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670


Well, if I read it right, and excluded the world wars as extraordinary, it is the 2nd worst position after Keating, isn't it?



Definitely not if you compare it against GDP. Using the bottom graph, the gross debt which was inherited by the Abbott government was actually very low by Australian standards when compared against GDP. As stated in the article:

'The Australia Institute's Mr Richardson agreed. He told Fact Check: "All outgoing governments until about 40 years ago left outstanding government debt much larger as a share of GDP than the present government inherited."


FFS, that was 1975. Even I was still at school

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:11 am
by bulldogproud2
However, it does mean that Tony Abbott was handed a debt/GDP position which was one of the best in Australia's history. Only Howard and Fraser have left lower Debt/GDP positions than what Abbott was handed.

Cheers

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:18 pm
by Jimmy_041
Not sure we're looking at the same table because I see the second worst in 40 odd years
Only Keating (the self professed economic miracle man) outdid it
Interesting reading Steven Koukoulas who says the debt is not a problem, but then slams the Govt for an increase in debt
I'm not sure what to make of him

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:33 pm
by bulldogproud2
Jimmy_041 wrote:Not sure we're looking at the same table because I see the second worst in 40 odd years
Only Keating (the self professed economic miracle man) outdid it
Interesting reading Steven Koukoulas who says the debt is not a problem, but then slams the Govt for an increase in debt
I'm not sure what to make of him


I am going on the Australian Institute's Mr. Richardson's comment, as well as the final graph. Yes, the second worst in 40 odd years, but better than any prior to that. We have only had four governments in the past forty years, making it the second best ever.

Cheers

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:14 pm
by stan
Looking forward to the next budget now. I think most people are. It will be interesting to see when the uni reforms come back as well.

Im not sure threatening an election is going to help out here.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:46 pm
by stan
This will be qn interesting budget. The IMF have predicted some tough times ahead for the glonal economy. With China starting to slow and there growth looking at dipping under the 7% mark it seems to be the catalyst now for a drop in iron ore prices. This will hurt our mining sector. This will really hurt.

Basically we nees to reduce the government's expenditure without killing off our own economic growth. Good luck with that!

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:19 pm
by GWW
Didn't Abbott say they were going to stop the "waste" of the previous ALP Govt?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/it-costs-b ... ers-trial/

Why isn't Andrews a back-bencher now, after failing so badly? Hopefully Defence doesn't suffer a similar fate.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:59 pm
by bennymacca
andrews also couldn't name the leader of IS, the person that the US have just put a 10 million bounty on, and who andrews just sent 300 troops to go and fight

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/k ... te/6392948

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:07 pm
by Gozu
Cracked up laughing watching Mad As Hell last week when Micallef with a pic of Andrews behind him said "Here is a picture of Kevin Andrews taking human form".

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:21 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:29 pm
by Q.
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them


Sounds like he's been hoodwinked.

Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:05 pm
by bennymacca
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them


so did i tbh, which surprised me. sounds like he just had too much trust in the current government...