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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Psyber » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:38 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:Bob Katter's campaign ad. Yes ! This is legitimate not a pisstake :lol:
IMO A man who wears jeans with a tie and shirt shouldn't be allowed to walk down the street let alone in Parliament. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ_zYZBD ... r_embedded
You city slickers just don't get the real rural Australian heritage or the practicalities of a manly working environment! ;)
Having been a farmer, I'd vote for him, and in a rural environment I'd wear jeans and good boots outdoors whether or not I wore a tie as a concession to formality.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:03 am

Psyber wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:Bob Katter's campaign ad. Yes ! This is legitimate not a pisstake :lol:
IMO A man who wears jeans with a tie and shirt shouldn't be allowed to walk down the street let alone in Parliament. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ_zYZBD ... r_embedded
You city slickers just don't get the real rural Australian heritage or the practicalities of a manly working environment! ;)
Having been a farmer, I'd vote for him, and in a rural environment I'd wear jeans and good boots outdoors whether or not I wore a tie as a concession to formality.



Ah yes! But would you wear them to the gym? ;) :lol:
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby ca » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:28 am

From all reports it is looking more and more like the ALP will form Government.

This is a good read, probably not one the ALP faithful should bother with.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/electi ... 5908589066
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Psyber » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:30 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:Ah yes! But would you wear them to the gym? ;) :lol:
I didn't know real Australians like farmers needed to got to a gym! We are just naturally so fit because of all that manly work.
I must admit I've lost a bit of bulk and muscle tone since I sold the farm - I'd gotten sick of all that manly work though - it never stopped.
I guess I might wear jeans to the gym if I wasn't doing a work out and my next stop was a farm. :lol:
[You get used to the idea of close encounters with snakes and jeans and boots become the standard thing you wear.]

It's funny farming - addictive.
When I sold up I swore "Never again!", but recently, up Bundaberg way, I caught myself looking wistfully at a 540 Hectare sugar farm and house that was really quite affordable.
But I reminded myself of the never ending work and talked myself out of it.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Psyber » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:39 am

ca wrote:From all reports it is looking more and more like the ALP will form Government.
This is a good read, probably not one the ALP faithful should bother with.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/electi ... 5908589066
A fairly accurate description, although i thought Tony Abbot should perhaps have been as "discreet" as Julia about the independents in his speech too.
The article certainly good Penny Wong right!
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby redandblack » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:13 pm

ca wrote:From all reports it is looking more and more like the ALP will form Government.

This is a good read, probably not one the ALP faithful should bother with.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/electi ... 5908589066


ca, the Telegraph is a Murdoch paper and that article encapsulates everything that is wrong with the Murdoch press.

We all have our opinions, but surely you can see that that is a totally biased, even nasty, article.

Look at it again, a non-stop rant about a wonderful, perfect man on one side and a 'braying' no-hoper on the other. Read it again and ask yourself if you can find anything remotely resembling fair analysis.

Ask yourself then if it's just the usual Murdoch hack journalist toeing the party line. Ask yourself if there might be just a smidgin of nastiness towards Gillard.

Ask yourself if this is exactly what's wrong with the Murdoch press.

If you think this is 'a good read', I despair.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby ca » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:35 pm

redandblack wrote:
ca wrote:From all reports it is looking more and more like the ALP will form Government.

This is a good read, probably not one the ALP faithful should bother with.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/electi ... 5908589066


ca, the Telegraph is a Murdoch paper and that article encapsulates everything that is wrong with the Murdoch press.

We all have our opinions, but surely you can see that that is a totally biased, even nasty, article.

Look at it again, a non-stop rant about a wonderful, perfect man on one side and a 'braying' no-hoper on the other. Read it again and ask yourself if you can find anything remotely resembling fair analysis.

Ask yourself then if it's just the usual Murdoch hack journalist toeing the party line. Ask yourself if there might be just a smidgin of nastiness towards Gillard.

Ask yourself if this is exactly what's wrong with the Murdoch press.

If you think this is 'a good read', I despair.


I know all that except I did enjoy it and there was some truth in there, that's why I warned you not to read it :lol:
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby mick » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:47 pm

ca wrote:From all reports it is looking more and more like the ALP will form Government.

This is a good read, probably not one the ALP faithful should bother with.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/electi ... 5908589066


I agree a very good read, thanks for putting it up and thanks to R&B for his critique, I probably would not have read it otherwise. I must admit I enjoyed various Labor luminaries doing their own Cheryl Turncoat impersonations on election night :lol:
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby redandblack » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:58 pm

Oh no, mick.

I've lost Labor your vote :shock: ;)
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:11 pm

The Daily Telegraph wrote:Even the people who hate Tony Abbott quite like him.


If there's ever been a more deluded opening sentence written by a News Limited hack I'm yet to see it.

I'm a bit nonplussed though to have missed the bit on Saturday night where Abbott's LNP were voted in by their apparently adoring public with a comfortable and workable majority.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby redandblack » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:11 pm

From the same article, topsy, I really liked this bit:

"At that time, Abbott was not in the leadership to win it for the Coalition. He had taken over from Malcolm Turnbull in an attempt to lessen what was going to be inevitable defeat."

:) He had 'taken over'. I thought Gillard had backstabbed Rudd, but Tony had 'taken over' :roll:
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:17 pm

I disagree r&b, and I said it at the time

He was appointed to stop the rot - what the majority of the party thought was the wrong way to go.

The general consensus was that Turnbull was agreeing because it was popular, not because it was the right thing to do

Whether they were right or not doesnt matter, but maybe, we were saved from another disaster
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby redandblack » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:19 pm

I wasn't debating the reason, Jimmy, just the sycophantic reporting.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:54 pm

Not sure they were the same circumstances, but I get your drift on it - yes

But:

1, To knife a PM like they did was amazing
2. I'm not sure Abbott has had a dream run from the media

I'll let you know one thing from the inside - the Libs would have preferred to face Rudd than Gillard. They had his messure.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:42 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:Not sure they were the same circumstances, but I get your drift on it - yes

But:

1, To knife a PM like they did was amazing
2. I'm not sure Abbott has had a dream run from the media

I'll let you know one thing from the inside - the Libs would have preferred to face Rudd than Gillard. They had his messure.


That's because they knew what he was like. He was/is one of them. ;) Right wing, ultra conservative and religous.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Gozu » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:03 am

"Mad Katter denies kill threat":

BOB Katter, the maverick Queenslander poised to become an election kingmaker, has been accused of threatening to kill a federal MP.
The independent MP is alleged to have made the threat against former Liberal MP Peter Lindsay at Townsville Airport in May.

Mr Lindsay immediately reported the alleged threat to the Australian Federal Police.

A furious Mr Katter told Mr Lindsay that "you Liberals are slimy dogs and you are the lowest of the low", the statement says.

"I believe every person has the right to protect his home, himself and his family. In Australia, we've gone to the ludicrous point of completely disarming the nation," he said.

"Everywhere they ban guns, the death rates from guns goes up."


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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Wedgie » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:30 pm

Odds still fluctuating, Libs now $1.70, Labor $2.10
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Squawk » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:06 am

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dedja wrote:Just when you thought it doesn't get any better ...

Bill Shorten's mother-in-law is non other than the Governor-General.

How potentially conflicted is that! :-$


The GG is seeking legal advice on her position as GG and as Mother-in-Law to Bill Shorten. Smart move because the advice (IMHO) will say that there isn't a conflict of interest, and then she can rest on that if there is any unhappy campers out there. I can't see any party protesting though.

I still cant fathom why the Coalition at any level of govt dont shift themselves closer to the environmental cause, in the same way as Labor lurched to the right. I reckon there's a fair chance that a lot of Coalition voters would be sympathetic towards initiatives to protect the environment, so long as they aren't extreme. Rudd picked up a lot of votes from sympathetic greenies at the 2007 election, and it only takes a modicum of intestinal fortitude to have some slightly greener policy approaches. So c'mon Tony et al, take a few cuttings from some nice green plants, put them in a vase and watch them flower with time.
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Psyber » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:27 pm

I tend to agree with Squawk that a moderate and affordable policy on reducing pollution is desirable and I would like to see both parties embrace it.
I like the Greens idea of any "Carbon Tax" being put in a fund isolated from general revenue and used to fund changes to industry, rather than it going into general revenue and being frittered away.
I'd like it to also focus on all pollution, not just Carbon, so I'd prefer a "Pollution Tax".
[This is a totally separate issue from that about whether the current global warming that is actually caused by human activity.]
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Re: Federal Election Predictions

Postby Media Park » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:15 pm

fisho mcspaz wrote:
dedja wrote:There is a silver lining ... Ironbar Tuckey may be history. 8)


God, I hope so! He is a vile person.


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