Is it over for Rann?

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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby southee » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:19 pm

redandblack wrote:Dinner with mick, Jimmy041, southee and Psyber 8)


LOL...very good!!! Would be an interesting dinner ...... ;)

Have to get Gozu on the table though...
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:08 pm

Excellent - now we'll see the mettle of the man - I wonder if they'll sell tickets

Mike Rann's alleged attacker at Adelaide Magistrates Court

ANDREW DOWDELL, ADELAIDENOW REPORTER
December 08, 2009 12:01am
PREMIER Mike Rann faces questioning under oath in court over his alleged relationship with former waitress Michelle Chantelois - but not until after next year's election.

Mr Rann's alleged attacker, Burnside businessman Richard Wayne Phillips, yesterday foreshadowed he would plead not guilty to a charge of basic assault and would have the Premier called as a witness next year.

However, waiting lists and pre-trial legal argument mean it is almost certain Mr Rann will avoid questioning until well after the March 20 election.

Phillips, 55, arrived amid a media swarm rarely seen outside Adelaide Magistrates Court and, through his lawyer, Jon Lister, made clear his intention to fight the basic assault charge.

"Although it is his first appearance in court, I can indicate that subject to further legal advice . . . Mr Phillips wishes to defend the matter," Mr Lister said. "We anticipate the trial would incorporate the calling of all relevant witnesses, including the alleged victim (Mr Rann)."

Mr Lister said he would call Mr Rann and Ms Chantelois as witnesses in the trial, which will be heard before a magistrate next year.

"The focus of the defence will be the effect the relationship between Ms Chantelois and Mr Rann had on my client, and whether my client's alleged actions amounted to unlawful conduct," Mr Lister told magistrate Peter Snopek.

He said the defence would rely on a specific section of the law: "Conduct that lies within the limits of what would be generally accepted in the community as normal incidents of social interaction or community life cannot amount to an assault", and "conduct that is justified cannot amount to an assault".

During a 10-minute hearing, Mr Lister also said he would seek statements from Mr Rann's wife, Sasha Carruozzo, and other witnesses to the alleged assault on October 1.

Phillips allegedly used a rolled-up magazine to attack Mr Rann after the Premier had made a speech during a function at the National Wine Centre.

Last month, Ms Chantelois told Channel 7 in a paid interview that she had sex with Mr Rann in 2004 and 2005.

The next day, Mr Rann used a press conference to deny this. The Premier also pledged to launch legal action against Channel 7, and his lawyer, Michael Abbott, QC, observed yesterday's court proceedings. Pre-trial argument and trial waiting lists make it likely the trial will not be heard until well after the March 20 election.

Mr Lister also said he would be seeking clarification from police on why the charge against his client was one of basic assault.

Phillips was allegedly told by police he was to be charged with aggravated assault - a more serious charge that could be heard in front of a jury in the District Court.

Phillips replied "good" when asked how he was feeling as he left the court.

Mr Rann, who was in Brisbane yesterday for the Council of Australian Governments meeting, said it would be inappropriate for him to comment.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Gozu » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:21 am

southee wrote:
redandblack wrote:Dinner with mick, Jimmy041, southee and Psyber 8)


LOL...very good!!! Would be an interesting dinner ...... ;)

Have to get Gozu on the table though...


I'd be up for it only if Psyber brought his mate Alexander ;)
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Psyber » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:44 am

Gozu wrote:
southee wrote:
redandblack wrote:Dinner with mick, Jimmy041, southee and Psyber 8)
LOL...very good!!! Would be an interesting dinner ...... ;)
Have to get Gozu on the table though...
I'd be up for it only if Psyber brought his mate Alexander ;)
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby overloaded » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:23 am

Psyber wrote:I could possibly get Isobel to come... :twisted:

I doubt anybody could get Isobel to come, lol
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby shoe boy » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:05 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:Excellent - now we'll see the mettle of the man - I wonder if they'll sell tickets

Mike Rann's alleged attacker at Adelaide Magistrates Court

ANDREW DOWDELL, ADELAIDENOW REPORTER
December 08, 2009 12:01am
PREMIER Mike Rann faces questioning under oath in court over his alleged relationship with former waitress Michelle Chantelois - but not until after next year's election.

Mr Rann's alleged attacker, Burnside businessman Richard Wayne Phillips, yesterday foreshadowed he would plead not guilty to a charge of basic assault and would have the Premier called as a witness next year.

However, waiting lists and pre-trial legal argument mean it is almost certain Mr Rann will avoid questioning until well after the March 20 election.

Phillips, 55, arrived amid a media swarm rarely seen outside Adelaide Magistrates Court and, through his lawyer, Jon Lister, made clear his intention to fight the basic assault charge.

"Although it is his first appearance in court, I can indicate that subject to further legal advice . . . Mr Phillips wishes to defend the matter," Mr Lister said. "We anticipate the trial would incorporate the calling of all relevant witnesses, including the alleged victim (Mr Rann)."

Mr Lister said he would call Mr Rann and Ms Chantelois as witnesses in the trial, which will be heard before a magistrate next year.

"The focus of the defence will be the effect the relationship between Ms Chantelois and Mr Rann had on my client, and whether my client's alleged actions amounted to unlawful conduct," Mr Lister told magistrate Peter Snopek.

He said the defence would rely on a specific section of the law: "Conduct that lies within the limits of what would be generally accepted in the community as normal incidents of social interaction or community life cannot amount to an assault", and "conduct that is justified cannot amount to an assault".

During a 10-minute hearing, Mr Lister also said he would seek statements from Mr Rann's wife, Sasha Carruozzo, and other witnesses to the alleged assault on October 1.

Phillips allegedly used a rolled-up magazine to attack Mr Rann after the Premier had made a speech during a function at the National Wine Centre.

Last month, Ms Chantelois told Channel 7 in a paid interview that she had sex with Mr Rann in 2004 and 2005.

The next day, Mr Rann used a press conference to deny this. The Premier also pledged to launch legal action against Channel 7, and his lawyer, Michael Abbott, QC, observed yesterday's court proceedings. Pre-trial argument and trial waiting lists make it likely the trial will not be heard until well after the March 20 election.

Mr Lister also said he would be seeking clarification from police on why the charge against his client was one of basic assault.

Phillips was allegedly told by police he was to be charged with aggravated assault - a more serious charge that could be heard in front of a jury in the District Court.

Phillips replied "good" when asked how he was feeling as he left the court.

Mr Rann, who was in Brisbane yesterday for the Council of Australian Governments meeting, said it would be inappropriate for him to comment.
Couldn't wait to meet the NSW Premier I bet


He is not there to answer questions about shagging someones wife on a desk! He will appear as a victim of an alleged assault.

I dont get the problem here he is a victim.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:35 pm

Need to read the article shoe boy - that's exactly what they are going to ask him.

He is going for a defence that his actions were justified

(Would have been much better if he'd hit him with this magazine)

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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:09 pm

You know - you have to wonder how Tiger thought he'd get away with his dalliances. With his public stature, surely he didn't think someone would step up one day

Ah.......but, someone else has thought of the response to this sort of allegation

"The suggestion that I would have sex on a golf course in Adelaide, as a fairly visible citizen of this state, is totally, absolutely ridiculous."
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby southee » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:36 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:You know - you have to wonder how Tiger thought he'd get away with his dalliances. With his public stature, surely he didn't think someone would step up one day

Ah.......but, someone else has thought of the response to this sort of allegation

"The suggestion that I would have sex on a golf course in Adelaide, as a fairly visible citizen of this state, is totally, absolutely ridiculous."


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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Psyber » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:11 am

overloaded wrote:
Psyber wrote:I could possibly get Isobel to come... :twisted:
I doubt anybody could get Isobel to come, lol
I must admit I hadn't considered that aspect...
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:27 pm

Good to see Mike off to Copenhagen to represent us on the world stage. I bet everyone will be champing at the bit to find out what Mike thinks. I hope they ask him how he's fixed the Murray problem

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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby southee » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:29 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:Good to see Mike off to Copenhagen to represent us on the world stage. I bet everyone will be champing at the bit to find out what Mike thinks. I hope they ask him how he's fixed the Murray problem

We do spend our taxes well


Yes, Mike is really needed over there in Copenhagen :roll:

I hope they do ask him about the river Murray and maybe even how he is helping the farmers in the riverland.... :?
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Squawk » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:53 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/14/2770327.htm

Oh the similarities!

Click on link for the picture, read below for the article.

Attacker breaks Berlusconi's nose
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is being treated for a broken nose and cuts after being struck in the face at a political rally.

Mr Berlusconi was just leaving a rally in the northern city of Milan when his assailant got through security and hit the Prime Minister in the face.

Mr Berlusconi was seen looking dazed and bloodied. His injuries included a broken nose, two teeth knocked out and cuts to his lips that required stitches.

The attacker was apparently holding an object in his hand, thought to be a small statue of Milan's cathedral, before he lashed out.

Police bundled Mr Berlusconi into his car, which then pushed though a crowd of onlookers.

Police arrested a 42-year-old man, identified as Massimo Tartaglia, at the scene and took him to a police station in Milan. He was later charged with aggravated assault.

This will be seen as a major security breach and there will probably be an investigation into how the man got so close to the Prime Minister.

Mr Berlusconi will be kept in hospital overnight.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby mick » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:37 pm

Squawk wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/14/2770327.htm

Oh the similarities!

Click on link for the picture, read below for the article.

Attacker breaks Berlusconi's nose
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is being treated for a broken nose and cuts after being struck in the face at a political rally.

Mr Berlusconi was just leaving a rally in the northern city of Milan when his assailant got through security and hit the Prime Minister in the face.

Mr Berlusconi was seen looking dazed and bloodied. His injuries included a broken nose, two teeth knocked out and cuts to his lips that required stitches.

The attacker was apparently holding an object in his hand, thought to be a small statue of Milan's cathedral, before he lashed out.

Police bundled Mr Berlusconi into his car, which then pushed though a crowd of onlookers.

Police arrested a 42-year-old man, identified as Massimo Tartaglia, at the scene and took him to a police station in Milan. He was later charged with aggravated assault.

This will be seen as a major security breach and there will probably be an investigation into how the man got so close to the Prime Minister.

Mr Berlusconi will be kept in hospital overnight.


Pity Rann didn't upset this bloke.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:39 pm

:lol:
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby RustyCage » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:08 pm

southee wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:Good to see Mike off to Copenhagen to represent us on the world stage. I bet everyone will be champing at the bit to find out what Mike thinks. I hope they ask him how he's fixed the Murray problem

We do spend our taxes well

needed over there in Copenhagen :roll:

I hope they do ask him about the river Murray and maybe even how he is helping the farmers in the riverland.... :?


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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Ronnie » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:35 pm

From his twitter:

At the Climate Leaders Summit for States, Regions, Provinces I propose that sub national govts commit to planting one billion trees by 2O15

I will also propose that we call on the world's leaders to plant one tree for every person on the planet as a green dividend fr Copenhagen.

Strong interest from European electric vehicle business leaders in SA's showcase Global Green Challenge, Darwin to Adelaide car race.
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So Rann wants to plant a tree for every person on the earth...a little task indeed. He really is the master of rubbish tokenism.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:57 pm

:lol: Lucky we sent him there for the big items

His use of twitter is most appropriate
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby shoe boy » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:21 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:Good to see Mike off to Copenhagen to represent us on the world stage. I bet everyone will be champing at the bit to find out what Mike thinks. I hope they ask him how he's fixed the Murray problem

We do spend our taxes well


Jimmy Jimmy you of all people would know that your beloved Liberal party WHERE the biggest exploiters of tax payers coin ;)
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby interested observer » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:27 am

shoe boy wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:Good to see Mike off to Copenhagen to represent us on the world stage. I bet everyone will be champing at the bit to find out what Mike thinks. I hope they ask him how he's fixed the Murray problem

We do spend our taxes well


Jimmy Jimmy you of all people would know that your beloved Liberal party WHERE the biggest exploiters of tax payers coin ;)


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