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[dedja]

[Jimmy_041]

The other part of the AFR article about Engineers Australia

Dutton prepares nuclear pitch
The furore comes in the same week Opposition Leader Peter Dutton advanced preparations for unveiling a nuclear energy policy, announced the Coalition would not set a 2030 carbon emissions reduction target, and hit out at teal MPs backed by Mr Holmes à Court.

Mr Parker, a self-described believer in human-induced global warming, is founder of Nuclear For Climate Australia, which advocates for zero-emissions nuclear energy as the cheapest path to address climate change.

He said Labor’s approach of relying too much on renewables would destroy the economy and ruin tax revenue for the government.

Mr Parker holds a Master’s degree in nuclear science from the Australian National University and a Master’s in civil engineering from the University of NSW.

He worked for 37 years as a civil engineer in Australia and overseas and has been a member of the engineering association for about 30 years.

“Globally, nuclear energy is endorsed by the International Energy Agency, the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe, and here we have a cancel culture,” he said.

Mr Parker said he was invited on March 13 to give a presentation on nuclear energy by the Newcastle division of Engineers Australia, after an official saw him speak last year in Melbourne.



A slide from Rob Parker’s scheduled presentation.

In April, he emailed the title of his proposed speech, the outline of the address, and the key learning objectives: expressing his concern about climate change; the sustainability of nuclear energy; the nuclear fuel cycle; the problems of 100 per cent renewables; the superior economics and emissions reductions from nuclear; six nuclear options; and the delivery of a fleet for Australia.

The Melbourne-based association’s professional development and events teams approved the speech that same month.

In a twist, an hour before Wednesday’s scheduled 6pm talk was due to begin, registries received an email reminder about it. The webinar’s software had sent the automated reminder.

About 140 registries logged on to watch the cancelled event, but Mr Parker was not aware until he was later contacted.

“What I am so sad about is that friends of mine and people who respect me were sitting there waiting for this thing to start,” he said.

“It’s an insult to me and the members. It goes to the integrity of an outfit that is meant to be beyond reproach in terms of professional standing of engineers.”

Synergetics Consulting Engineers director Dave Collins said he was “outraged by this example of EA behaving like a political organisation pandering to the interests of what I suspect are a few individuals within EA management with partisan beliefs.”

He called for fellow Engineers Australia members to coordinate a response to challenge the organisation’s management.

Mr Holmes à Court was contacted for comment.

[DOC]

Keatings standing as a Prime Minister is often debated.

What is never debated is his standing as a Treasurer.

Still the best the country has ever had. And by a long way.

[dedja]

Dutton not doing himself any favours. Apparently didn’t advise, liaise or check with the current owners, governments or local members of the 7 proposed nuclear reactor sites before announcing them yesterday.

Also has no costings or details on how it will all work.

Looks like an own goal and easy fodder for those opposing them.

Is there not anyone with half a brain in politics anymore? Any merit in this proposal will seemingly be easily punted away.

The race to the bottom continues.

[MW]

Not only does he have no costings, but will not guarantee those costings will be available before the election.
What a f..k up.

[Jimmy_041]

At least we've got costings for 100% renewable in Australia - $500 billion - $1 trillion (Is that actually a costing?)

We are told renewable energy would make our power cheaper and create jobs

SA leading the way:

https://www.bluettipower.com.au/blogs/h ... alia%20(SA)%3A,be%20more%20expensive%20to%20produce.

[stan]

In regards to Duttons plan, a few things:

Obviously with no costing it's open season from the government here. Not checking into the sites, another own goal.

However, let's take another look at this. it's a plan. An actual energy plan of using Nucleaer and curbing the amount of renewables hitting the grid.

Before people jump on me, stacking the grid with renewable in a race to 2030 and 2050 isn't a plan, it's and idea. How to achieve this and what technology to use is the key. For example, how do you structure the exports with low demand and high solar and how make sure this isn't wasn't and kills the grid at the same time.

His sites selected do have some merit (although no checking with local governments etc wasn't great). For example Pt. Augusta has the transmission lines still there as well as the access to water as required. Clearly a good site for a power station. I mean yeah he said Loy Yang as well for the similar reasons but it wasn't really thslat hard.

Whilst there are holes you can drive a truck through, nuclear does have a place with the high cost of natural gas.

Also I'm not against renewables, they have a future but we have not developed the technology to support them yet and we just don't have a plan in place to make sure of a stable transisition from coal.

All in all, hes going to get slammed and rightly so in some areas, but the idea has some merit.

An just to be clear, I am well qualified judge this with 20 years in the power sector.

[stan]

The other part of the AFR article about Engineers Australia

Dutton prepares nuclear pitch
The furore comes in the same week Opposition Leader Peter Dutton advanced preparations for unveiling a nuclear energy policy, announced the Coalition would not set a 2030 carbon emissions reduction target, and hit out at teal MPs backed by Mr Holmes à Court.

Mr Parker, a self-described believer in human-induced global warming, is founder of Nuclear For Climate Australia, which advocates for zero-emissions nuclear energy as the cheapest path to address climate change.

He said Labor’s approach of relying too much on renewables would destroy the economy and ruin tax revenue for the government.

Mr Parker holds a Master’s degree in nuclear science from the Australian National University and a Master’s in civil engineering from the University of NSW.

He worked for 37 years as a civil engineer in Australia and overseas and has been a member of the engineering association for about 30 years.

“Globally, nuclear energy is endorsed by the International Energy Agency, the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe, and here we have a cancel culture,” he said.

Mr Parker said he was invited on March 13 to give a presentation on nuclear energy by the Newcastle division of Engineers Australia, after an official saw him speak last year in Melbourne.



A slide from Rob Parker’s scheduled presentation.

In April, he emailed the title of his proposed speech, the outline of the address, and the key learning objectives: expressing his concern about climate change; the sustainability of nuclear energy; the nuclear fuel cycle; the problems of 100 per cent renewables; the superior economics and emissions reductions from nuclear; six nuclear options; and the delivery of a fleet for Australia.

The Melbourne-based association’s professional development and events teams approved the speech that same month.

In a twist, an hour before Wednesday’s scheduled 6pm talk was due to begin, registries received an email reminder about it. The webinar’s software had sent the automated reminder.

About 140 registries logged on to watch the cancelled event, but Mr Parker was not aware until he was later contacted.

“What I am so sad about is that friends of mine and people who respect me were sitting there waiting for this thing to start,” he said.

“It’s an insult to me and the members. It goes to the integrity of an outfit that is meant to be beyond reproach in terms of professional standing of engineers.”

Synergetics Consulting Engineers director Dave Collins said he was “outraged by this example of EA behaving like a political organisation pandering to the interests of what I suspect are a few individuals within EA management with partisan beliefs.”

He called for fellow Engineers Australia members to coordinate a response to challenge the organisation’s management.

Mr Holmes à Court was contacted for comment.

Absolute bull ******* shit crap from engineers Australia.

I was signing in for the webinar because I'm interested in both sides now the argument.

FFS was a disgrace.

[dedja]

In regards to Duttons plan, a few things:

Obviously with no costing it's open season from the government here. Not checking into the sites, another own goal.

However, let's take another look at this. it's a plan. An actual energy plan of using Nucleaer and curbing the amount of renewables hitting the grid.

Before people jump on me, stacking the grid with renewable in a race to 2030 and 2050 isn't a plan, it's and idea. How to achieve this and what technology to use is the key. For example, how do you structure the exports with low demand and high solar and how make sure this isn't wasn't and kills the grid at the same time.

His sites selected do have some merit (although no checking with local governments etc wasn't great). For example Pt. Augusta has the transmission lines still there as well as the access to water as required. Clearly a good site for a power station. I mean yeah he said Loy Yang as well for the similar reasons but it wasn't really thslat hard.

Whilst there are holes you can drive a truck through, nuclear does have a place with the high cost of natural gas.

Also I'm not against renewables, they have a future but we have not developed the technology to support them yet and we just don't have a plan in place to make sure of a stable transisition from coal.

All in all, hes going to get slammed and rightly so in some areas, but the idea has some merit.

An just to be clear, I am well qualified judge this with 20 years in the power sector.

Some good points there.

I have also worked in the sector, albeit nowhere near your 20 years, and my frustration is that whilst there is abundant information regarding the current state of the network with regular publications from both the AER and AEMO, there are (to my knowledge), no long term independent studies or strategies published to provide a 25+ year outlook of the network, which is what is required to inform us of the decisions required as a result of long term planning.

Distribution and transmission providers (where my experience is) will have long term asset management plans over and above the usual 3-5 year operational plans that most companies develop, typically covering 25-30+ years.

It’s unfathomable to me that we don’t have such long term planning documents debated in the public domain which are exempt from the compromised biases of those with vested interests.

This is a complex subject with many moving parts and no easy answers, which won’t be solved by short term politics.

I agree with stan that there should be open debate with regard to all options, and that the solution isn’t one or the other, but most likely a mix of what has been, and what will be able to deliver a sustainable, stable and as cheap as possible energy system.

[Jimmy_041]

Stop being sensible

Get with the teal programme - Simon says so

[Psyber]

I've recently emailed Peter Dutton poiting out that if going nuclear Thorium is a much safer option than Uranium as it needs stimulating to keep it running and won't melt down or explode. I doubt the message will get past his office staff though. ( The only federal MP who ever replied personally to my email contact was Malcolm Turnbull. )

I know a few former SA state MPs though on both sides.

[Jim05]

Whilst Dutton is getting the media attention I see that yesterday Plibersek approved a new gas export pipeline, and four new coal projects snuck into the approval list today. That ought to keep the Greens happy

[Jimmy_041]

Whilst Dutton is getting the media attention I see that yesterday Plibersek approved a new gas export pipeline, and four new coal projects snuck into the approval list today. That ought to keep the Greens happy

The hypocrisy of these people is amazing - at least the Greens are true to their f***ed up ideas

[dedja]

Here is AEMO’s 2024 Integrated System Plan … I haven’t had a chance to go through the details yet.

Whilst this has some use, it’s a document that responds to committed political energy decisions, rather than an independent options analysis and assessment.

AEMO’s Integrated System Plan (ISP) is a roadmap for the transition of the National Electricity Market (NEM) power system, with a clear plan for essential infrastructure that will meet future energy needs. The ISP’s optimal development path (ODP) sets out the needed generation, storage and network investments to transition to net zero by 2050 through current policy settings and deliver significant net market benefits for consumers.

https://aemo.com.au/energy-systems/majo ... m-plan-isp

Key takeaways from the 2024 ISP


With coal-fired generation retiring, the 2024
ISP confirms that renewable energy, connected
by transmission and distribution, firmed with
storage and backed up by gas-powered
generation, is the lowest-cost way to supply
electricity to homes and businesses as Australia
transitions to a net zero economy.

The Optimal Development Path, which is the
lowest-cost path to meet Federal and state
government energy policies on emissions
reductions, has an annualised capital cost of
$122 billion to 2050.

The 2024 ISP includes updates to transmission
projects from the 2022 ISP. Seven additional
transmission projects have progressed to
‘actionable’ status since the 2022 ISP, allowing
more coordinated and effective community
consultation to commence earlier.

Investment in transmission projects identified
in the 2024 ISP will reduce costs for consumers.
The transmission projects are expected to
recoup their $16 billion investment costs, save
consumers a further $18.5 billion in avoided
costs, and deliver emissions reductions valued
at $3.3 billion.
•
Many households and businesses are taking
steps to shape their own energy futures
by investing in solar, batteries and electric
vehicles. If consumer batteries are coordinated
effectively, they have the potential to help
lower costs for all consumers by offsetting the
need for an additional $4.1 billion of grid-scale

[Jimmy_041]

8X!

[dedja]

Monthly inflation numbers are out … up to 4.0% from 3.6%

Watch the Reserve Bank raise rates again.

[Jimmy_041]

Monthly inflation numbers are out … up to 4.0% from 3.6%

Watch the Reserve Bank raise rates again.

Should make Craig Emerson the Gov'nor
He's got all the answers and is completely independant

[dedja]

Another potential rogue Senator emerges, this time Labor Senator Payman.

I have no comment on her political beliefs or the Labor policies that she is refusing to uphold, but as per most other Senate defectors, or would be defectors, she would have received 3 votes if she wasn't on her party's Senate ticket.

Reform is needed regarding Senate seats, but until this ever happens, then if she leaves the Labor party, she should resign and vacate her seat. If she wants to be a Senator, then go to the polls with full transparency.

Many others have done the same (Cory Bernardi says hello). Enough is enough.

[dedja]

Senator Payman has quit the Labor Party and will sit on the cross bench.

She received 1,681 first preference votes, a mere 0.0077% of a quota, at the 2022 Federal Election, and is able to sit in the Senate under current Laws for a further 4 years.

[Jimmy_041]

Senator Payman has quit the Labor Party and will sit on the cross bench.

She received 1,681 first preference votes, a mere 0.0077% of a quota, at the 2022 Federal Election, and is able to sit in the Senate under current Laws for a further 4 years.

She might win a few more now