The South Australian Political Landscape

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby GWW » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:05 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:As good as this since 1994:

Paul Keating
Kim Beazley
Simon Crean
Mark Latham
Kim Beazley
Kevin Rudd
Julia Gillard


Yes, State Liberal is probably as bad as Federal ALP. That doesn't say much for either though.

A few years prior, the Libs were just as bad with with Peacock, Howard, Peacock, Howard, Hewson, Downer.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Gozu » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:50 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:As good as this since 1994:

Paul Keating
Kim Beazley
Simon Crean
Mark Latham
Kim Beazley
Kevin Rudd
Julia Gillard


Um yeah SA political thread but you probably should've put a bit more thought into this my pavlovian friend.

John Hewson
Alexander Downer
John Howard
Brendan Nelson
Malcolm Turnbull
Tony Abbott

Conclusion 6/6 which of course does nothing to change the fact in our state it will be Libs 7 vs ALP 2 as of Monday.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Sky Pilot » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:46 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:As good as this since 1994:

Paul Keating
Kim Beazley
Simon Crean
Mark Latham
Kim Beazley
Kevin Rudd
Julia Gillard

Faaarking gold Jim!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:47 am

Gozu wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:As good as this since 1994:

Paul Keating
Kim Beazley
Simon Crean
Mark Latham
Kim Beazley
Kevin Rudd
Julia Gillard


Um yeah SA political thread but you probably should've put a bit more thought into this my pavlovian friend.

John Hewson
Alexander Downer
John Howard
Brendan Nelson
Malcolm Turnbull
Tony Abbott

Conclusion 6/6 which of course does nothing to change the fact in our state it will be Libs 7 vs ALP 2 as of Monday.


Obviously I put more thought into it than you
The point is all parties regularly change leaders in opposition my insular friend
You just seem to do it in government as well, in fact, every ALP Prime Minister back to Curtin has blood on his back or hands other than Gough who got done by a mate of his instead
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Gozu » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:05 pm

Huh? Obviously not, Brown, Olsen & Kerin in just over 8 years vs Rann & Weatherill in 11 years.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Roxy the Rat Girl » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:03 pm

If the Federal Libs had of replaced John howard before the 2007 election they may have had a chance of winning. Under Howard they were seen as a tired and stale Government, even though they had achieved a lot of good things for the country.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:20 am

vicki chapman is the deputy
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:40 am

Roxy the Rat Girl wrote:If the Federal Libs had of replaced John howard before the 2007 election they may have had a chance of winning. Under Howard they were seen as a tired and stale Government, even though they had achieved a lot of good things for the country.

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby dedja » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:48 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:vicki chapman is the deputy


Stan Evans and Ted Chapman would have been proud of their kids in fuelling the feud ... :lol:
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Roxy the Rat Girl » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:59 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote: Reply with quote Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:40 am
Re: The South Australian Political Landscape
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If the Federal Libs had of replaced John howard before the 2007 election they may have had a chance of winning. Under Howard they were seen as a tired and stale Government, even though they had achieved a lot of good things for the country.

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Reformed the taxation system, gun ownership reform, invested in and provided support mechanisms for small business and industry, low unemployment and interest rates (can be argued that this was a global trend).
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Gozu » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:25 pm

"Liberals’ not quite fresh start":

NEW Liberal Leader Steven Marshall promised a “fresh start” – but day one of his leadership was business as usual with ancient party divisions playing out in the battle for deputy.

Marshall was endorsed today as Liberal Party leader while veteran MP Vickie Chapman won the deputy leadership 10 votes to 8 after a weekend war between the party’s factions.

Chapman will now serve as deputy for the third time, having backed or engineered challenges against the previous two she served – Iain Evans in 2007 and Martin Hamilton-Smith in 2009.

Frustrated unaligned MPs were annoyed when Chapman announced last Friday her intention to nominate for deputy and then became dismayed on Sunday when Iain Evans started sounding out his levels of support.

The move cut out the chances of unaligned MPs Dan van Holst Pellekaan and Martin Hamilton-Smith who both decided to pull out of the race.

The 40-year war that has dogged the State Liberals began in 1973 when Liberal Country League premier Steele Hall led a breakaway of moderate conservatives to form a new political party, the Liberal Movement.

After Hall moved to federal parliament in 1974 to take up a Senate seat, remaining Liberal Movement MPs moved back into the Liberal fold and the LCL became the Liberal Party – but the divisions remained.

Two war horses in that period were Ted Chapman and Stan Evans – fathers of Vickie and Iain.

The younger generation were major players in the mid-1990s when divisions remerged.

The conservatives took to the moderates in an ugly spat that ended in the deposing of Premier Dean Brown in favour of Premier John Olsen in 1996.

The disunity saw 14 Liberal MPs lose their seats in a 10 per cent swing against the Liberals in the 1997 state election and the Olsen Government reduced from a massive majority to governing with the support of independents.

That swing was the catalyst for the 2002 election loss and the beginning of the Rann decade.


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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby RustyCage » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:14 pm

Sounds like Chapman is someone who can really be trusted!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:20 pm

pafc1870 wrote:Sounds like Chapman is someone who can really be trusted!

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Roxy the Rat Girl » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:57 pm

There must be plenty of ego in the party room (at least between a couple of them) to let (very) old fueds get in the way of a chance to govern the state. Seems a bit petty and childish to me but then I aint no politician.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby dedja » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:02 pm

Well the yanks had the Hatfields and McCoys, the Liberals have the Evans, Chapmans, Wilsons, Halls, etc ... Throw in a Pyne and a Minchin, Olsen and Brown and it all gets so ugly.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby southee » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:03 pm

Must say as a South Australian.....we are screwed either way :(
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby dedja » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:05 pm

and as an Australian, we're screwed as well ...
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:06 pm

Yet we are still the lucky country.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Roxy the Rat Girl » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:17 pm

The Hatfields and McCoys engaged in open and honest fueding, hillbilly style, whilst the State Libs sneak around stabbing each other in the back. I'd change my name to Cooter McCoy, buy me a 12 gauge, and take one way ticket to West Virginia before I'd step inside the Liberal party room.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby dedja » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:24 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Yet we are still the lucky country.


Unless you follow the Bays ...
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