Parallel Universe

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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Psyber » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:29 am

Europe:
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:42 am

Quichey wrote:Image

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Those charts are laughable.
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Psyber » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:47 am

Interesting - I tried re-running it following my head rather than my heart and came up a little more left and a bit less liberal...
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Wedgie » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:59 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:We're all frickin lefties

Pigs arse we are!
Speak for yourself and your commie mates but not me! :lol:
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Psyber » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:17 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:We're all frickin lefties
Pigs arse we are!
Speak for yourself and your commie mates but not me! :lol:

I wonder what would happen to my position on the executive of a Liberal Party branch if they saw my chart from this site. :lol:
Superficially, I'm almost a perfect match for the Greens..
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Re: Re: Parallel Universe

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:31 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:We're all frickin lefties

Pigs arse we are!
Speak for yourself and your commie mates but not me! :lol:

Yep. Wedge all by himself on the chart. Did you just answer randomly?
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:38 pm

So can someone explain to me what believing/non believing that my race is superior to others has to be do with Left, Right, Authoritarian or Libertarian thinking?
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Gingernuts » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:42 pm

Bat Pad wrote:So can someone explain to me what believing/non believing that my race is superior to others has to be do with Left, Right, Authoritarian or Libertarian thinking?


It's an extreme right view (otherwise known as fascist - ie Hitler).
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Sky Pilot » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:46 pm

Gingernuts wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:So can someone explain to me what believing/non believing that my race is superior to others has to be do with Left, Right, Authoritarian or Libertarian thinking?


It's an extreme right view (otherwise known as fascist - ie Hitler).

what's an extreme left view? Like Doug Cameron or Bob Brown? Otherwise known as what?
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Gingernuts » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:51 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:
Gingernuts wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:So can someone explain to me what believing/non believing that my race is superior to others has to be do with Left, Right, Authoritarian or Libertarian thinking?


It's an extreme right view (otherwise known as fascist - ie Hitler).

what's an extreme left view? Like Doug Cameron or Bob Brown? Otherwise known as what?


Communism.

Bob Brown is far from that though. We're talking Stalin/Lenin.
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Gingernuts » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:52 pm

I think I've got that right. Been a long time since uni. :-?
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Booney » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:09 pm

The Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.62&soc=-3.64

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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Q. » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:09 pm

Bat Pad wrote:
Quichey wrote:Image

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Those charts are laughable.


What's laughable is you thinking our two major parties are left-leaning.
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Q. » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:11 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:We're all frickin lefties

Pigs arse we are!
Speak for yourself and your commie mates but not me! :lol:


Never would have guessed, Colonel.
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:14 pm

Gingernuts wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:So can someone explain to me what believing/non believing that my race is superior to others has to be do with Left, Right, Authoritarian or Libertarian thinking?


It's an extreme right view (otherwise known as fascist - ie Hitler).


No it isnt

An extreme right view means that you believe in no or very limited centralised government (Thomas Jefferson a strong supporter of this) taken in the American context.

In the European context it is more to do with maintaining the current form of government as opposed to changing it, and no forced equality for its subjects (i.e. No forms of welfare, so if you can't earn a buck, regardless of the reasons behind it, noone who can is forced or even encouraged to help you)

It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinions on genetics.
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:35 pm

Those charts are laughable.[/quote]

What's laughable is you thinking our two major parties are left-leaning.[/quote]

Yeah I guess, I mean they both support all of the following 'Right Wing' policies:


Unemployment benefits
Paid Parental Leave
Sick Leave
High Minimum Wages
Unfair Dismissal Laws
Student Assistance
Rent Assistance
Refugee Assistance
Medicare
Government owned public transport
High Income Taxes for the wealthy
Luxury items taxes
Inheritance Tax
Superannuation
Pension
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:06 pm

Back on task:

The real reason why the Reserve Bank cut interest rates?

Reserve Bank cuts domestic growth outlook
Updated November 04, 2011 13:35:52
Europe's sovereign debt crisis and eurozone jitters posed the largest risk to the Australian economy.

The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) has cut its forecast for economic growth and inflation in its latest quarterly report card.
The central bank said the economy was growing at a "moderate pace" but highlighted its two-speed nature.
In its quarterly Statement on Monetary Policy the RBA revised its expectations for domestic growth down to 2.75 per cent this year.
It had earlier forecast growth of 3.25 per cent.
Europe's ongoing sovereign debt crisis and eurozone jitters pose the largest threat to the domestic outlook, the bank says.
"The Bank’s central scenario continues to be one in which the European authorities do enough to avert a disaster, but are not able to avoid periodic bouts of considerable uncertainty and volatility," the RBA said.
"A worse outcome in Europe would adversely affect the Australian economy, and underlying inflation would be likely to decline."
While mining-related sectors would continue to enjoy robust growth, the RBA said other industries had been hit by the strong Australian dollar and changes in household spending and borrowing.
CommSec economist Savanth Sebastian said the statement indicates the RBA may move to cut interest rates again - sooner, rather than later, given the turmoil in the eurozone.
"Any further rate cut is likely to be as a result of the volatility in Europe," he said.
"It is important to point out that the longer it takes to find a solution to the European debt crisis the more heightened the risks are for the global economy.
"In addition, a further rate cut would help to shore up domestic confidence and ensure that monetary policy move to a more neutral setting."


It would appear that my stance on this issue has been supported by the views of the Reserve Bank (ie) the economy is 2 speed and that, despite the call that the drop in interest rates was due to the wonderful work of the Gillard Government, the Reserve Bank's expectations for domestic growth are lower than previously thought. Inflation is also down, but I suspect that has been affected by a drop in spending more than anything.

I dont believe the Gillard Government is ruining this country; they are just not doing anything.
On the other hand, I'm not sure what they could do anyway (and that's probably why I sit here and not in Canberra)
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Re: Parallel Universe

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:11 pm

Gingernuts wrote:
Quichey wrote:Labor's implosion wouldn't be so bad if the disturbing consequence of Abbott as PM was not to become a reality.


Bingo. Anyone else wouldn't bother me in the slightest.


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