Point of Principle

[Wallaby]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

[A Mum]

I say yes.
'A Dad' says absolutely !

[A TRAIN]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Hell yes he should be reimburse
And maybe a few cold drinks should be sent his way for the time a effort he put in.

[BJ Ernest]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

100kms away? Now i understand that clubs need to recruit and sometimes its from a long way away but if you are from Happy Valley as your avatar suggest that seems ridiculous.

To answer your question yes he should be reimbursed. Going to the pub and meeting a player, buying him some beers and a meal is a footy expense for sure. Its a great way to meet a player, get the conversation going and see what type of bloke he is!

[The Big Shrek]

Should pay the footy director back and then buy him a meal aswell for doing a good job.

[Old and Grey]

Take it out of Porter's pocket for not turning up.

[Mr Magoo]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Standard Coorporate stance on expenses.
1.Know the rules
2.If you don't know the rules ask BEFORE you spend the money.
3.Learn by your mistakes

Yes, We will pay the expenses this time, but next time check with the Pres, Secretary or Treasurer

[Dogwatcher]

There we go, SA Footy healing rifts between club members.

[Wallaby]

Take it out of Porter's pocket for not turning up.

Please note.. this has nothing to do with Happy Valley Football Club.....

[JS SPORTS]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Standard Coorporate stance on expenses.
1.Know the rules
2.If you don't know the rules ask BEFORE you spend the money.
3.Learn by your mistakes

Yes, We will pay the expenses this time, but next time check with the Pres, Secretary or Treasurer

Standard Corporate crap, do you write Mike Rann's media rubbish too?

That's big of you to pay that, If I were your footy director I'd tell you where to shove your payment, and sideways and not in small denominations. In fact it'd be in 50 cent pieces and next time you go do the work instead!
You appear to be the type of autocratic moron that keeps volunteers away from clubs

[Gator-Aid]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Standard Coorporate stance on expenses.
1.Know the rules
2.If you don't know the rules ask BEFORE you spend the money.
3.Learn by your mistakes

Yes, We will pay the expenses this time, but next time check with the Pres, Secretary or Treasurer

You big hero you, bet you were a schoolyard bully! Or maybe you were bullied and are trying like hell to get even!

A couple of things I wish, is that the recruit told you to get nicked and so too did your Footy Director 'cause that's what you deserve

[JS SPORTS]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Standard Coorporate stance on expenses.
1.Know the rules
2.If you don't know the rules ask BEFORE you spend the money.
3.Learn by your mistakes

Yes, We will pay the expenses this time, but next time check with the Pres, Secretary or Treasurer

Mr Magoo, where are you? Missing with no response to your 'mean spirited' post, Bah Humbug!

[Mr Magoo]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Standard Coorporate stance on expenses.
1.Know the rules
2.If you don't know the rules ask BEFORE you spend the money.
3.Learn by your mistakes

Yes, We will pay the expenses this time, but next time check with the Pres, Secretary or Treasurer

Standard Corporate crap, do you write Mike Rann's media rubbish too?

That's big of you to pay that, If I were your footy director I'd tell you where to shove your payment, and sideways and not in small denominations. In fact it'd be in 50 cent pieces and next time you go do the work instead!
You appear to be the type of autocratic moron that keeps volunteers away from clubs

Cheers CC
No I don't write Mike Rann's media statements!!
As far as paying in 50c pieces .I think that coins are only legal tender up to $25.00

That my friend is what would happen in a corporate enviroment.
You put your expenses in after a week away, the Sales manager signs off and all is sweet.
If however you had crayfish and Grange for a meal he would still sign off and tell you not to do it again.

Exactly how I explained in my first post.

Of course the Football Director should be reimbursed, and the club should put some guidelines into place as to who can spend how much on what.

[aceman]

Looking for some genuine answers to a tricky question.

Scenario is this:
A Grade coach asks the football director to go with him to interview a possible recruit. At short notice the A Grade Coach can’t make it, so seconds the B Grade Coach to attend.

Player lives 100 kms from the interviewing club, so agree to meet half way. Logical place was a pub as it was a dinner time meeting, and of course the club can’t appear to be ‘tight fisted’ to the prospective player.

The UNPAID football director pays for the meal (1 course only, nice but basic, just under $60.00 all up) and gets a receipt from the pub to lodge with the club.

Aside from the 3.5 hours out of his time, the $20.00 in petrol and the $30.00 for the two rounds of drinks he bought – the football director submitted the receipt for the meal only, but it was declined with the statement in the vein of “it was not a genuine football expense”.

Question of principle: Should the club reimburse the unpaid football director for the meal?

Standard Coorporate stance on expenses.
1.Know the rules
2.If you don't know the rules ask BEFORE you spend the money.
3.Learn by your mistakes

Yes, We will pay the expenses this time, but next time check with the Pres, Secretary or Treasurer

Standard Corporate crap, do you write Mike Rann's media rubbish too?

That's big of you to pay that, If I were your footy director I'd tell you where to shove your payment, and sideways and not in small denominations. In fact it'd be in 50 cent pieces and next time you go do the work instead!
You appear to be the type of autocratic moron that keeps volunteers away from clubs

Cheers CC
No I don't write Mike Rann's media statements!!
As far as paying in 50c pieces .I think that coins are only legal tender up to $25.00 :)

That my friend is what would happen in a corporate enviroment.
You put your expenses in after a week away, the Sales manager signs off and all is sweet.
If however you had crayfish and Grange for a meal he would still sign off and tell you not to do it again.

Exactly how I explained in my first post.

Of course the Football Director should be reimbursed, and the club should put some guidelines into place as to who can spend how much on what.

What makes you think that, for God's sake? Are you telling me that if I wanted to purchase a Plasma TV priced at $4K and went to the Good Guys with the money all in 50 cent pieces, apart from the bag being that heavy I'd probably need a 'sack truck' they would not accept the money because it's not legal tender?
Where on earth did you get that from???????????
Sh^t, they'd probably give me a discount for paying cash,damn sure they wouldn't turn me away because of your stupid idea!

[nuggety goodness]

What makes you think that, for God's sake? Are you telling me that if I wanted to purchase a Plasma TV priced at $4K and went to the Good Guys with the money all in 50 cent pieces, apart from the bag being that heavy I'd probably need a 'sack truck' they would not accept the money because it's not legal tender?
Where on earth did you get that from???????????
Sh^t, they'd probably give me a discount for paying cash,damn sure they wouldn't turn me away because of your stupid idea!

i think you're fightin the wrong battle ace... or just trying to divert attention off the real topic maybe...

[aceman]

What makes you think that, for God's sake? Are you telling me that if I wanted to purchase a Plasma TV priced at $4K and went to the Good Guys with the money all in 50 cent pieces, apart from the bag being that heavy I'd probably need a 'sack truck' they would not accept the money because it's not legal tender?
Where on earth did you get that from???????????
Sh^t, they'd probably give me a discount for paying cash,damn sure they wouldn't turn me away because of your stupid idea!

i think you're fightin the wrong battle ace... or just trying to divert attention off the real topic maybe...

No NG, no reason to try and divert attention away from this, would love to know what miserable person/club would even consider this action towards someone who volunteers their time and energy to do what he considers needs to be done to help the club.
In fact this needs all the advertising and attention it can get to maybe make the club sit up and say, "maybe we didn't handle this in the best interest of all concerned" with our bureaucratic bungling and apologise whole heartedly to the bloke concerned.
I still reckon if Mr Magoo is the main man, then Waldo(my boy) has a no chance when he grows up!

[nuggety goodness]

What makes you think that, for God's sake? Are you telling me that if I wanted to purchase a Plasma TV priced at $4K and went to the Good Guys with the money all in 50 cent pieces, apart from the bag being that heavy I'd probably need a 'sack truck' they would not accept the money because it's not legal tender?
Where on earth did you get that from???????????
Sh^t, they'd probably give me a discount for paying cash,damn sure they wouldn't turn me away because of your stupid idea!

i think you're fightin the wrong battle ace... or just trying to divert attention off the real topic maybe...

No NG, no reason to try and divert attention away from this, would love to know what miserable person/club would even consider this action towards someone who volunteers their time and energy to do what he considers needs to be done to help the club.
In fact this needs all the advertising and attention it can get to maybe make the club sit up and say, "maybe we didn't handle this in the best interest of all concerned" with our bureaucratic bungling and apologise whole heartedly to the bloke concerned.
I still reckon if Mr Magoo is the main man, then Waldo(my boy) has a no chance when he grows up!

i was actually talkin about this kinda stuff last night with one of our recruits, a good mate of mine outside of footy too. we both come from the country and everyone is a volunteer. when you play in town everyone wants to be paid for anything they do... whereas in the country people do it more for the love of the club and the game. broadly speaking that is... trainers, team managers, assistants, canteen ladies... all did it for free up home but everyone wants cash down here... kinda sad. so it seems it's not just players that are chasin the coin too, i've heard of many folks jumpin ship for cash...

my opinion on this topic is, the club doesn't owe a thing. you didn't have to drive 100kms to meet this bloke, you chose to, and you chose to have the meeting at a pub and have a meal thinkin full well the club would reimburse you so it's your own fault. If you knew you had to pay for it would you have done the same thing?!?

thinkin this way would mean that everytime i called a mate tryin to recruit them the club would have to reimburse me for the phone call, i should send them part of my internet bill cos i use that to recruit players...

whatever happened to volunteers i say!?!

[Dogwatcher]

Gee, I wonder who you were talking too

[nuggety goodness]

Gee, I wonder who you were talking too

of course you'd know, you know everything!!! so when are you comin to training?!?

[Dogwatcher]

You gonna pay my petrol money and a meal each week?