verbul slurs

[The Gimp]

The hotdog calls are pretty common.
I'm also what is known as "big boned" and was lining up for a shot at goal one day and an opponent started getting into me and said "if you get this, I'll buy you a hotdog". Sweet, more incentive!!

So I kicked the goal and after the game I found him, went up to him pretended I was angry and made him buy me a hotdog!!

[Baron Greenback]

Why? I've never done anything to indigenous people.

sorry Chuck i wasnt infurring you did, what i meant was that treatment they recieved in the past 150 years. I guess what i am saying is being called a white c**t is no way near as bad as being called a black c**t. As i said earlier, any verbal someone gives you that is aimed at race is ignorant and i include someone calling someone a white c**t it is just that we do not get offended by this because historically we have not been villified because we are white, they have becasue they are black. Like i said mate in no way should anyone spit on you and i do tend to agree if you had said the same back you would be up for games. Lucky you were smart enough not to

I don't know about smart! Maybe too shitscared! Haha

[dedja]

Easy fix to all this.

What's said on the field, stays on the field ... like the good old days.

[aceman]

Easy fix to all this.

What's said on the field, stays on the field ... like the good old days.

Yeah good luck!
Not with all the "do gooders & politically correct" people that have all of a sudden infiltrated the world.

[TEX07]

Easy fix to all this.

What's said on the field, stays on the field ... like the good old days.

Yeah good luck!
Not with all the "do gooders & politically correct" people that have all of a sudden infiltrated the world.

Recentlly we took exception to something that was said to one of our players in a game and took it further and the guy has been given games for saying it. Sometimes things can be said that it is too hard to just let go. I would not necessarily say we were do gooders for making the complaint just fealt something had to be done about it. Having said this it was a fairly ordinary thing to say and deserved to be looked at.
General verbal should be taken with a pinch of salt and forgotten about after the game.

[aceman]

Easy fix to all this.

What's said on the field, stays on the field ... like the good old days.

Yeah good luck!
Not with all the "do gooders & politically correct" people that have all of a sudden infiltrated the world.

Recentlly we took exception to something that was said to one of our players in a game and took it further and the guy has been given games for saying it. Sometimes things can be said that it is too hard to just let go. I would not necessarily say we were do gooders for making the complaint just fealt something had to be done about it. Having said this it was a fairly ordinary thing to say and deserved to be looked at.
General verbal should be taken with a pinch of salt and forgotten about after the game.

So what's your take on the post I put forward earlier and copied below?

This is currently before the SAAFL; Player A calls Player B a white c... so player B calls Player A a black pr^ck. Umpire hears player B and reports him. Player A then calls I/change steward a white c... also.
Finishes up at an investigation and all that is dealt with is the fact that a player is racially vilified by the use of the word 'black'.
Are we in a world where only 1 colour can be vilified against with repercussions?

[dedja]

Easy fix to all this.

What's said on the field, stays on the field ... like the good old days.

Yeah good luck!
Not with all the "do gooders & politically correct" people that have all of a sudden infiltrated the world.

That's exactly right, political correctness gone wrong.

I was called everything under the sun when I played and a lot of it was racial ... didn't bother me one bit. FFS one of my nicknames was boong, not bad for someone with a European background.

As this thread has highlighted, it's ridiculous to isolate some comments from others ... and you can't please everyone either!

It's a no win argument.

[TEX07]

Ace, tough situation i thought it was all hypothetical. If i was in the shoes of player B i would feel hard done by for sure. Did you say that player B was responding to what player A said and that the umpire only heard what player B said back or do you think he chose to only have concern for what was said back?

My take is that if someone called me a white c**t it is water off a ducks back, it has never bothered me and never will. Calling someone a black c**t has offended indiginous people for many years. Why do you think Nicky Winmar lifted his guersney to the Collingwood fans that day? Did the same fans yell white c**t to say Danny Frawley all day??? I doubt it. My point is right or wrong the rules were never made to protect white footballers from these racial comments i believe. Maybe they will change in time but the perception is that they are not considered offensive i guess???

The comment i was referring to that we took exception to had nothing to do with race whatsoever i should point out.

[aceman]

Ace, tough situation i thought it was all hypothetical. If i was in the shoes of player B i would feel hard done by for sure. Did you say that player B was responding to what player A said and that the umpire only heard what player B said back or do you think he chose to only have concern for what was said back?

My take is that if someone called me a white c**t it is water off a ducks back, it has never bothered me and never will. Calling someone a black c**t has offended indiginous people for many years. Why do you think Nicky Winmar lifted his guersney to the Collingwood fans that day? Did the same fans yell white c**t to say Danny Frawley all day??? I doubt it. My point is right or wrong the rules were never made to protect white footballers from these racial comments i believe. Maybe they will change in time but the perception is that they are not considered offensive i guess???

The comment i was referring to that we took exception to had nothing to do with race whatsoever i should point out.

So, in essence, we have 2 sets of rules! One for caucasion and one for others.
It just so happens we have 7 aboriginal lads playing at our senior club and many others at junior level, and I dare say at some stage they have been called something, but in the instance to which I refer, the lad is coloured but not aboriginal and came marching in to the hearing with a lawyer who majors in cases such as this, baying for blood.

[TEX07]

Ace, tough situation i thought it was all hypothetical. If i was in the shoes of player B i would feel hard done by for sure. Did you say that player B was responding to what player A said and that the umpire only heard what player B said back or do you think he chose to only have concern for what was said back?

My take is that if someone called me a white c**t it is water off a ducks back, it has never bothered me and never will. Calling someone a black c**t has offended indiginous people for many years. Why do you think Nicky Winmar lifted his guersney to the Collingwood fans that day? Did the same fans yell white c**t to say Danny Frawley all day??? I doubt it. My point is right or wrong the rules were never made to protect white footballers from these racial comments i believe. Maybe they will change in time but the perception is that they are not considered offensive i guess???

The comment i was referring to that we took exception to had nothing to do with race whatsoever i should point out.

So, in essence, we have 2 sets of rules! One for caucasion and one for others.
It just so happens we have 7 aboriginal lads playing at our senior club and many others at junior level, and I dare say at some stage they have been called something, but in the instance to which I refer, the lad is coloured but not aboriginal and came marching in to the hearing with a lawyer who majors in cases such as this, baying for blood.

I dont feel we have 2 sets of rules Ace, i do actually believe that when the player called your player a white c**t he left himself open for the response he got back. Not that i personally agree with his response but sometimes you get what you give! Hopefully nothing comes of this for your player! Best of luck.

[Johno6]

how many weeks did that player get tex for saying that stuff?

[Iron Fist]

Tex07,

A couple of things... I see what your trying to say in regards to treatment of 'black' australians in the past, and how they were disrespected... but what relevance does that have to most of the indigenous population these days. I would think MOST indigenous people would have had equality for at least 3 decades if not longer in some places, so if we are talking footballers, I would be confident suggesting that 99% fit into that catergory... Hence if they directly have not been effected why should they have leniency in ratial slurring??? If equality is what they are angry about, then slurring someone because of their races id a little hypocritical IMO...

I personally dont care either way, but it annoys me when people say racial vilification is ok for one party but not the other!

I think LC has hit the nail on the head for this

but like someone else said, it is a no win argument!

[Johno6]

Its just like womens rights......

They want equal rights but ya cant go grabbing them on teh ass after they do soomething good..

[TEX07]

how many weeks did that player get tex for saying that stuff?

pretty sure it was 2 games mate

[Iron Fist]

Its just like womens rights......

They want equal rights but ya cant go grabbing them on teh ass after they do soomething good..

haha
that is gold!!!

[BIG SEXY]

I havent seen a show called Make the Black bloke white.

But there has been Biggest Loser.

Once can change, the other cant. With one exception but look what happened to him.

what about beign a bald c**t then? i cant help it im thinning on top but have to put up with the obvious remarks that come with it.
not that i mind it its always fun thinking of snappy lines to come back with

i think if the best insult you can come up with is black/bald/fat who gives a fat rats clacker, your obviously not smart enough to spend any energy on.

[nuggety goodness]

I havent seen a show called Make the Black bloke white.

But there has been Biggest Loser.

Once can change, the other cant. With one exception but look what happened to him.

what about beign a bald c**t then? i cant help it im thinning on top but have to put up with the obvious remarks that come with it.
not that i mind it its always fun thinking of snappy lines to come back with

i think if the best insult you can come up with is black/bald/fat who gives a fat rats clacker, your obviously not smart enough to spend any energy on.

it's lucky you're not black then hey Big Sexy... still 2 outta three ain't bad

[Q.]

Tex07,

A couple of things... I see what your trying to say in regards to treatment of 'black' australians in the past, and how they were disrespected... but what relevance does that have to most of the indigenous population these days. I would think MOST indigenous people would have had equality for at least 3 decades if not longer in some places, so if we are talking footballers, I would be confident suggesting that 99% fit into that catergory... Hence if they directly have not been effected why should they have leniency in ratial slurring??? If equality is what they are angry about, then slurring someone because of their races id a little hypocritical IMO...

I personally dont care either way, but it annoys me when people say racial vilification is ok for one party but not the other!

You've got your head in the sand if you think equality exists for most of the indigenous population.



Racials slurs have been and still are an inference of inferiority. Being called a white c*** has no relevance to anything.

[Dogwatcher]

Quichey, I understand the point you make.
However, reconciliation is a two way street. Calling someone a "white C*nt" works against reconciliation as much as vice versa.
Calling someone a "white c*nt" doesn't help the cause in anyway.

[BIG SEXY]

Tex07,

A couple of things... I see what your trying to say in regards to treatment of 'black' australians in the past, and how they were disrespected... but what relevance does that have to most of the indigenous population these days. I would think MOST indigenous people would have had equality for at least 3 decades if not longer in some places, so if we are talking footballers, I would be confident suggesting that 99% fit into that catergory... Hence if they directly have not been effected why should they have leniency in ratial slurring??? If equality is what they are angry about, then slurring someone because of their races id a little hypocritical IMO...

I personally dont care either way, but it annoys me when people say racial vilification is ok for one party but not the other!

You've got your head in the sand if you think equality exists for most of the indigenous population.



Racials slurs have been and still are an inference of inferiority. Being called a white c*** has no relevance to anything.

how is a black c**t racial but a white c**t isnt?! i believe neither are offensive personally. if you get upset because someones pointed out the colour of your skin youve got problems.


boonga, you can eat my ar$ehole!