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[The Dark Knight]

ODNT I put it to you that since the majority of students families pay for their schooling that if push came to shove they could play footy where ever they want.
But I am not here to shoot down OS/OC sides, just wanted to find out whether they currently assisted in the development of current scholars. If they do (and by the sounds of reports from posters they do) then I am all for them receiving the proposed points system.
If Pultney (ex O.S by name) wanted to claim names of Old Scholars can they claim them as their own.
If PHOS Camden wanted to claim both PHOS Camden Juniors and current William Light Scholars are they able too?

What connection does William Light School have with PHOS?

I'm really not sure where you're trying to go with this

Just on that, pardon my ignorance but where is/where was Plympton High School? I've tried to research it before but can never find any information about it.

And if I'm reading it correctly LK believes that William Light School is Plympton high School?

[Bulls forever]

Why should Mawson Lakes get the benefit of St Pauls OS when they have changed their name so that they appeal to the local community and distanced themselves from St Pauls? They can have their cake and eat it too? Will Houghton get Banksia Park Old Scholars or Unley get Unley High OS etc, etc?

Beef, not really sure how you put Houghton and Banksia Park High together, but I get the point.

[TIRED TIGER]

[ Beef, not really sure how you put Houghton and Banksia Park High together, but I get the point.[/quote]

beefy, banksia park high old scholars fc turned into houghton districts football club and its original coach is still the president of houghton i reckon

[Mr Beefy]

[ Beef, not really sure how you put Houghton and Banksia Park High together, but I get the point.

beefy, banksia park high old scholars fc turned into houghton districts football club and its original coach is still the president of houghton i reckon[/quote]

Why should Mawson Lakes get the benefit of St Pauls OS when they have changed their name so that they appeal to the local community and distanced themselves from St Pauls? They can have their cake and eat it too? Will Houghton get Banksia Park Old Scholars or Unley get Unley High OS etc, etc?

Beef, not really sure how you put Houghton and Banksia Park High together, but I get the point.

I reckon thats how I put it together!!

In any case, you are either an old scholar side or you are not, you cant have ya cake and eat it too.

[LaughingKookaburra]

ODNT I put it to you that since the majority of students families pay for their schooling that if push came to shove they could play footy where ever they want.
But I am not here to shoot down OS/OC sides, just wanted to find out whether they currently assisted in the development of current scholars. If they do (and by the sounds of reports from posters they do) then I am all for them receiving the proposed points system.
If Pultney (ex O.S by name) wanted to claim names of Old Scholars can they claim them as their own.
If PHOS Camden wanted to claim both PHOS Camden Juniors and current William Light Scholars are they able too?

What connection does William Light School have with PHOS?

I'm really not sure where you're trying to go with this

Just on that, pardon my ignorance but where is/where was Plympton High School? I've tried to research it before but can never find any information about it.

And if I'm reading it correctly LK believes that William Light School is Plympton high School?

Correct. Plympton High (PHOS) is now William Light.
So do they get the old scholars benefit with and the PHOS Camden juniors also??
I would have played 25 games for my school in knock out during the 5 years I went to secondary school, so I cant see how this would be different as the competition was endorsed by the SANFL. I'm sure it would have been the same for others at other schools.

[New Era]

ODNT I put it to you that since the majority of students families pay for their schooling that if push came to shove they could play footy where ever they want.
But I am not here to shoot down OS/OC sides, just wanted to find out whether they currently assisted in the development of current scholars. If they do (and by the sounds of reports from posters they do) then I am all for them receiving the proposed points system.
If Pultney (ex O.S by name) wanted to claim names of Old Scholars can they claim them as their own.
If PHOS Camden wanted to claim both PHOS Camden Juniors and current William Light Scholars are they able too?

What connection does William Light School have with PHOS?

I'm really not sure where you're trying to go with this

Just on that, pardon my ignorance but where is/where was Plympton High School? I've tried to research it before but can never find any information about it.

And if I'm reading it correctly LK believes that William Light School is Plympton high School?

Correct. Plympton High (PHOS) is now William Light.
So do they get the old scholars benefit with and the PHOS Camden juniors also??
I would have played 25 games for my school in knock out during the 5 years I went to secondary school, so I cant see how this would be different as the competition was endorsed by the SANFL. I'm sure it would have been the same for others at other schools.

I guess this is the type of test case the clubs are going to have to put up. Only thing is that as one of the other posters point out, It's of no real benefit anyway even if PHOS could claim them as a school that was the foundation behind PHOS Camdens existence but where do you draw the line. The technical make up of many clubs today is probably far different that the original foundation. Personally I'd be all for it if PHOS Camden dropped the Camden and simply called themselves Plympton High Old Scholars but they've merged with others over the years so you'd imagine that would be difficult.

[LaughingKookaburra]

There is a benefit in which they can be recruited back to the club in the future and because they played juniors/ atteneed the school and played enough games there then they are worth 0 points.
How do University sides fare?
But anyway lets wait and see tomorrow night. It's just interesting discussion

[New Era]

There is a benefit in which they can be recruited back to the club in the future and because they played juniors/ atteneed the school and played enough games there then they are worth 0 points.
How do University sides fare?
But anyway lets wait and see tomorrow night. It's just interesting discussion

Not sure how the Uni sides are going to fare but I suppose they will present similar types of arguments

[S Demon]

I assume C grade sides aren't effected by the points system?

Hypothetical situation: Div 7 Mawson Lakes A grade v TTG C Grade, Round 18 - winner makes the finals
TTG A's can't make the finals and are safe from relegation, B Grade sitting 2 games clear on top

Mawson Lakes will have a limit of 15 points in this game. What's to stop TTG playing 4-5 x A graders (apart from their integrity) who just for argument's sake are worth over 15pts in the Agrade. Would it be possible for them to do this.

(Just using TTG purely as a hypothetical. Same situation could apply to SHOC, Modbury, Athelstone...)

Hey SD

You are correct - the Mossies will have 15 points but no points apply for a C Grade team

To your other question, refer to the Rules & Regs [url]tinyurl.com/25beonk[/url]

34.2 The following conditions shall apply for players when Member Clubs have more than one team participating in the major round:
(a) There is free interchange of players between consecutively graded Divisions subject to player’s eligibility.
(b) A Member Club may promote a player from a team in a lower Division to a team in a higher Division for any major round match.
(c) A player cannot play in a lower Division final after having played in a higher Division final in the same major round of matches. (Under 17/18 Divisions exempted)

34.3 If a Member Club’s higher Division team is no longer playing in the major round:
(a) A player may return to the lower Division for the remainder of any major round matches provided such player played the majority of his minor round matches for the season in the lower Division.
(b) A player who has not participated in any of his Member Club’s major round matches, must have played a minimum of one game in the lower Division during the minor round to play in any of the Member Club’s lower Division finals matches subject to the player’s eligibility.

Those rules are for finals jimmy, I'm talking about a Rd 18 game and dropping players back

[X Runna]

I assume C grade sides aren't effected by the points system?

Hypothetical situation: Div 7 Mawson Lakes A grade v TTG C Grade, Round 18 - winner makes the finals
TTG A's can't make the finals and are safe from relegation, B Grade sitting 2 games clear on top

Mawson Lakes will have a limit of 15 points in this game. What's to stop TTG playing 4-5 x A graders (apart from their integrity) who just for argument's sake are worth over 15pts in the Agrade. Would it be possible for them to do this.

(Just using TTG purely as a hypothetical. Same situation could apply to SHOC, Modbury, Athelstone...)

A player can't be dropped 2 grades in one week.

[S Demon]

I assume C grade sides aren't effected by the points system?

Hypothetical situation: Div 7 Mawson Lakes A grade v TTG C Grade, Round 18 - winner makes the finals
TTG A's can't make the finals and are safe from relegation, B Grade sitting 2 games clear on top

Mawson Lakes will have a limit of 15 points in this game. What's to stop TTG playing 4-5 x A graders (apart from their integrity) who just for argument's sake are worth over 15pts in the Agrade. Would it be possible for them to do this.

(Just using TTG purely as a hypothetical. Same situation could apply to SHOC, Modbury, Athelstone...)

A player can't be dropped 2 grades in one week.

Are you sure about that?

[Iron Fist]

mate seen some flinders boys on the weekend.
They a bit uncertain about all these big recurits from all reports.
Players mainly worried that if they dont hang around they will be stuffed cause the club has used all there points getting them there and it will be to late to recruit otherwise!
You would think they wouldnt leave wouldnt ya?
They didnt recruit coxy did they??

[Trader]

A player can't be dropped 2 grades in one week.

Are you sure about that?

That certainly used to be the rule, in fact it wasn't even anything to do with weeks.
In the past if your last game was A-grade your next couldn't be lower than Bs.

It has caused problems before where B-graders went up to the A's to fill in, got injured, then weeks later when they were ready to come back, we couldn't bring them back in through the C's the first week.

You needed to get permission to do so (which they generally allowed once you explained the situation), but you still needed to get the approval.

Not sure if the rules have changed in the last few years or not.

[bickle]

sorry boys if this has been covered but i heard today that if you dont recruit for next year you can accumulate your points for the 2012 season.
is this a year by year points system or is the banking of points in the small print?

[X Runna]

A player can't be dropped 2 grades in one week.

Are you sure about that?

That certainly used to be the rule, in fact it wasn't even anything to do with weeks.
In the past if your last game was A-grade your next couldn't be lower than Bs.

It has caused problems before where B-graders went up to the A's to fill in, got injured, then weeks later when they were ready to come back, we couldn't bring them back in through the C's the first week.

You needed to get permission to do so (which they generally allowed once you explained the situation), but you still needed to get the approval.

Not sure if the rules have changed in the last few years or not.

Nothing has changed - one can apply for a permit if the above happens.

[Mr Beefy]

sorry boys if this has been covered but i heard today that if you dont recruit for next year you can accumulate your points for the 2012 season.
is this a year by year points system or is the banking of points in the small print?

I dont believe this is the case.

[turk186]

Not sure that all or any of these points will be clarified tonight at the AGM

Dont think any one person that will be attending would be in a position to have all the answers (and not sure the SAAFL would want them too)

[X Runna]

sorry boys if this has been covered but i heard today that if you dont recruit for next year you can accumulate your points for the 2012 season.
is this a year by year points system or is the banking of points in the small print?

Somebody has led you astray there mate.

It is not like saving money where it accumulates.

[wangas#4]

sorry boys if this has been covered but i heard today that if you dont recruit for next year you can accumulate your points for the 2012 season.
is this a year by year points system or is the banking of points in the small print?

Somebody has led you astray there mate.

It is not like saving money where it accumulates.

That would be good bickle but that ant gunna happen.

[Mr Beefy]

I hear this was formally adopted last night and SAAFL internal transfers are now worth 3 points for Div 1-3 and 2 points for the other divs instead of the proposed 1 point for all internal transfers.