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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:32 pm

The Bedge wrote:
BenchedEagle wrote:No umpire Week 1. Week 2 they send in an over officious umpire who proceeded to call every debatable No ball I hear.

Surely an umpire can not be introduced mid game? Especially if they hold a vastly different interpretation to the rules the club umpire had in Innings 1.

ER will dominate Grade 1 and 2. I would have thought the 2 best teams would want to test each other out, obviously not.

How the hell can you appoint an umpire halfway through a game?!? That's laughable!

100% agree - the two best sides should be in the same division competing against each other... but they wont because it means they cant win 2x women's flags.

Eyre Royals is a women's cricket club with a Men's program.


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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:11 am

Come on fella's. surely you don't seriously think they should have two teams playing in div 1? That would make more or a mockery of the comp, how about the other teams work on their game, develop kids and have constructive training sessions?
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:00 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Come on fella's. surely you don't seriously think they should have two teams playing in div 1? That would make more or a mockery of the comp, how about the other teams work on their game, develop kids and have constructive training sessions?

Absolutely they should, they have the best two sides in the competition.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:13 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:How about the other teams work on their game, develop kids and have constructive training sessions?

Our women train twice a week and are improving slowly, but are coming from zero starting base with none having played previously. Hopefully one day we will be competitive enough.

Sadly though each side seems to have at least one or two experienced ladies who have played some form previously and that's the difference. :(

One day.. :lol:
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:30 pm

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Lightning McQueen wrote:How about the other teams work on their game, develop kids and have constructive training sessions?

Our women train twice a week and are improving slowly, but are coming from zero starting base with none having played previously. Hopefully one day we will be competitive enough.

Sadly though each side seems to have at least one or two experienced ladies who have played some form previously and that's the difference. :(

One day.. :lol:


Yeah, Rome wasn't built in a day.

Most of last years ER team were playing B Grade a few years ago, about 6 or 7 of them had to step up to A's when pretty much their whole A Grade disbanded.

Would've won the GF if I had of focused on winning every game instead of trying to develop all of the group, and then Quinno killed us with a shocking call in the GF that would of seen us knock off the Units before the rain washed us out.

We set Lisa Walker up with our slowest bowler, we knew she'd run down the pitch and try to smash her for 6, she did and got caught on the boundary only for Quinno to call out no-ball, it was a dreadful call, I didn't mind letting him know about it either.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby BenchedEagle » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:53 am

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Come on fella's. surely you don't seriously think they should have two teams playing in div 1? That would make more or a mockery of the comp, how about the other teams work on their game, develop kids and have constructive training sessions?

Absolutely they should, they have the best two sides in the competition.
of course it is their choice to field 2 sides in 2 different grades. But I just feel it would be beneficial for them to be playing against the best sides and right now they are the 2 best sides in comp by far.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby arvoteapig » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:06 am

Is it possible to create a new thread for women's cricket chat................ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz *snoring*
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:10 am

arvoteapig wrote:Is it possible to create a new thread for women's cricket chat................ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz *snoring*

What would you like to talk about piggy? :)
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:28 am

arvoteapig wrote:Is it possible to create a new thread for women's cricket chat................ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz *snoring*


But the big question is would a womens grade 1 team beat a LO 4 mens team?????
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:52 am

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arvoteapig wrote:Is it possible to create a new thread for women's cricket chat................ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz *snoring*


But the big question is would a womens grade 1 team beat a LO 4 mens team?????

Whilst I know you're having a laugh... the answer - Yes.. Eyre Royals G1 women > Eyre Royals 'E' (Grade 1)

Look at last year.. top Eyre Royals players:

Kaiden Hobby - 15 wickets @ 31.27 from 17 games
Andrew Megaw - 11 wickets @ 41.45 from 17 games
Tamara Clapton - 10 wickets @ 10.70 from 4 games.

Adrian White - 223 runs @ 14.87 from 16 games
Rhys Peters - 118 runs @ 23.60 from 6 games
Simon Phillip - 118 runs @ 6.94 from 18 games
Tamara Clapton - 82 runs @ 20.50 from 4 games.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:10 pm

arvoteapig wrote:Is it possible to create a new thread for women's cricket chat................ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz *snoring*

Feel free to create some discussion Coxy :lol:

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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:00 am

PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:09 am

Enfield 140 vs ATCO 131.

Player got out, carried on like a spud - not condoned - umpire penalised side 10 runs.

Enfield 140 vs ATCO 141.

Then advised, said spud player also reported TWICE, team as a whole given "official warning" (despite any other player actually saying or doing anything), and anything further would impose 5 run penalties.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:12 am

Sadly Bedge, you're wasting your time.. everyone knows comps like PDCA and ASCA don't give a **** how bad the umpiring is, they're desperate for volunteer umpires (who get paid well) and they'll back em to the hills regardless of how poor they are.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:35 am

The Bedge wrote:Enfield 140 vs ATCO 131.

Player got out, carried on like a spud - not condoned - umpire penalised side 10 runs.

Enfield 140 vs ATCO 141.

Then advised, said spud player also reported TWICE, team as a whole given "official warning" (despite any other player actually saying or doing anything), and anything further would impose 5 run penalties.

Bloke wants to give them out like lollies?! 5 run penalties are match altering FFS!

What a way to make the game about YOURSELF!


Ive never been a big fan of the 5 run penalty. Just another grey area where a couple of umps will use it, the rest wont and what is penalised one week wont be the next.

I can't see why if someone does something that 'bad' they cant report the player and hand down a decent size suspension for him.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:40 am

Precisely whuffer!

Name any other sport where the official can so directly impact the outcome of a game with such a hefty punishment.

If I was playing Aussie rules and belted the oppositions best player in the first quarter I’d get reported and games but the side wouldn’t be docked 3 goals would they!

It’s not the individual only who is impacted it’s an entire side and club.

Suspend the person for how ever many games.. make them learn their lesson
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:49 am

The Bedge wrote:Precisely whuffer!

Name any other sport where the official can so directly impact the outcome of a game with such a hefty punishment.

If I was playing Aussie rules and belted the oppositions best player in the first quarter I’d get reported and games but the side wouldn’t be docked 3 goals would they!

It’s not the individual only who is impacted it’s an entire side and club.

Suspend the person for how ever many games.. make them learn their lesson


100%. Especially when its a batting incident, its not like the rest of the team can do anything to stop it even if they really wanted to being they are seated 50-100m away.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Old Fellow » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:08 am

The Bedge wrote:Precisely whuffer!

Name any other sport where the official can so directly impact the outcome of a game with such a hefty punishment.

If I was playing Aussie rules and belted the oppositions best player in the first quarter I’d get reported and games but the side wouldn’t be docked 3 goals would they!

It’s not the individual only who is impacted it’s an entire side and club.

Suspend the person for how ever many games.. make them learn their lesson


In Aussie rules the player may be sent off for the balance of the match and may not be allowed to be replaced so for the rest of of the match its 18 verses 17. That has an impact on the entire side and club if the opposition coach can coach. Then as you say the person is also suspended for future matches.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Old Fellow » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:30 am

no_remorse28 wrote:PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?


Is it the umpires fault for following the Laws of the game or is it the players fault for acting and/or making comment in breach of the Laws? The penalty runs are given at the time of the offence so unless it was the last wicket the batting team knows where they stand.

Assuming you where not there like me its all hear say what the player did or said. Umpires like all people have different tolerance levels so some will be quicker to act than others.

Your comment 'PDCA is umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them' - how many umpires have you had this season and how many of them have actually umpired that way? It is a huge general statement. I would always rather have a neutral umpire than the opposition umpire especially if they bat second.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:45 am

It’s 100% the fault of the player. He stuffed up, and he should’ve shut his mouth.. however, penalty runs are still a severe punishment to receive as a side particularly in a low scoring encounter.

The player was reported (twice) for the same incident, and will probably receive 3-4 games - that is a more than sufficient penalty.. imposing penalty runs on top is just double dipping and over the top.

As a captain on the sideline there was no way myself or any other team member could intervene and help diffuse the situation.. we were helpless and we were punished.

Yes we should’ve made the runs, but that’s not the point. The penalty runs were an absolute over reaction.. I would see half a dozen incidents each game that are worse, but the umpire deadset had a meltdown and lost it:

Anyway we will move on (some sooner than others), but that bylaw needs to be looked at - hate to see a Grade 1 grand final decided because of an emotional outburst from a player.
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