Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

[Booney]

Stop asking me to play then!

Be nice in the pub this week Bazza and with nothing left for you to prove on the field mate......think about it...

What sort of pubs do you have down there at Alberton .

Classy alfresco style. Very classy indeed....

[wycbloods]

Stop asking me to play then!

Be nice in the pub this week Bazza and with nothing left for you to prove on the field mate......think about it...

What sort of pubs do you have down there at Alberton .

assy alfresco style. Very assy indeed....

[Booney]

Grrr....

[jb]

JB and the bloke from Warradale. Stop bloody talking at meetings F***

The toss of the coin is stupid.

However drawing the names out of a hat is a good idea. It is similar to that used in the English Football league where teams in lower divs play against each other or get drawn against the big sides.

It also provides the opportunity for different teams to host games as its completely random, unlike a seeds system which will have the number 1 seed play home all the time.

Drawing from a hat is a fair way for all sides. And if it provides a couple lower div sides to get through an extra round or so, well so be it. Its a knockout t20 competition where any side can beat any one. See Belair last year where they beat Westminster IIRC.

ALso with seeds, what do you work on? the previous t20 form? the proper seasons ladder positions??

Besides the toss of the coin, the system is good as it is. If you had people there at the AGM JB like yourself who wanted a different system, that was the time to speak. It was discussed then and voted in as the best system. Deal with it!

should go on last years ladder, i would have thought (like tennis) you wanna see the best 2 teams in the final? im not sure how it happened last year but sharks v wyc final is wat we wanted am i not right? how bad would it be if federer played nadal rd1 of a major? its not hard to seed teams and make a bit of structure and the team with the best quotient gets the home game? i will never ever ever attend an agm, it was hard enough going down last night.

it should be...

sharks v internationals
wyc v clapham
ramb v belair
sheidow v warradale
ana v morphy
plympton v NH
keswick v south rd
westminster v coro

that took me 2 minutes to do, took longer to draw the names out of a hat!

[Booney]

Any comp decided by the toss of a coin isn't worth discussin at any length.

And really, does the winning T20 team have much to boast about when some clubs field less than full strength units?

Dont think so.

[CoverKing]

JB and the bloke from Warradale. Stop bloody talking at meetings F***

The toss of the coin is stupid.

However drawing the names out of a hat is a good idea. It is similar to that used in the English Football league where teams in lower divs play against each other or get drawn against the big sides.

It also provides the opportunity for different teams to host games as its completely random, unlike a seeds system which will have the number 1 seed play home all the time.

Drawing from a hat is a fair way for all sides. And if it provides a couple lower div sides to get through an extra round or so, well so be it. Its a knockout t20 competition where any side can beat any one. See Belair last year where they beat Westminster IIRC.

ALso with seeds, what do you work on? the previous t20 form? the proper seasons ladder positions??

Besides the toss of the coin, the system is good as it is. If you had people there at the AGM JB like yourself who wanted a different system, that was the time to speak. It was discussed then and voted in as the best system. Deal with it!

should go on last years ladder, i would have thought (like tennis) you wanna see the best 2 teams in the final? im not sure how it happened last year but sharks v wyc final is wat we wanted am i not right? how bad would it be if federer played nadal rd1 of a major? its not hard to seed teams and make a bit of structure and the team with the best quotient gets the home game? i will never ever ever attend an agm, it was hard enough going down last night.

it should be...

sharks v internationals
wyc v clapham
ramb v belair
sheidow v warradale
ana v morphy
plympton v NH
keswick v south rd
westminster v coro

that took me 2 minutes to do, took longer to draw the names out of a hat!

2 day ladder doesnt = fair seedings for t20.

For example, Sheidow finished fourth, but were knocked out by a 3rd string North Haven side. So how do you factor in those situations. Fair draw IMO as is.
And for the record, ramblers actually finished 2nd last year not us

In the soccer draw, sometimes it happens where Chelsea v Man U in Rd 1, whilst Burnely or a Barnsley get an easy draw. It happens. Its more interesting. Its all fair IMO

[jb]

good luck boys...

jb out

[wycbloods]

JB and the bloke from Warradale. Stop bloody talking at meetings F***

The toss of the coin is stupid.

However drawing the names out of a hat is a good idea. It is similar to that used in the English Football league where teams in lower divs play against each other or get drawn against the big sides.

It also provides the opportunity for different teams to host games as its completely random, unlike a seeds system which will have the number 1 seed play home all the time.

Drawing from a hat is a fair way for all sides. And if it provides a couple lower div sides to get through an extra round or so, well so be it. Its a knockout t20 competition where any side can beat any one. See Belair last year where they beat Westminster IIRC.

ALso with seeds, what do you work on? the previous t20 form? the proper seasons ladder positions??

Besides the toss of the coin, the system is good as it is. If you had people there at the AGM JB like yourself who wanted a different system, that was the time to speak. It was discussed then and voted in as the best system. Deal with it!

it was hard enough going down last night*.

Where did you go last night??????????

[bazza1]

Stop asking me to play then!

Be nice in the pub this week Bazza and with nothing left for you to prove on the field mate......think about it...

I have know idea what your talking about Booney?

[Booney]

Just thought the older wiser heads might decide it's just too hot to play cricket.

[Amateur Footy]

So any danger that this week might get cancelled due to the heat policy? I see the BOM now have Saturday as 39.

Would be almost unheard of to have a 40 degree day in November wouldn't it?

Would be close to 10 years ago that we had a 42C day in Nov. Just happened to be the hottest day all summer that year.

My money is on a forecast of 40C come saturday morning

[Mate]

Stop asking me to play then!

Be nice in the pub this week Bazza and with nothing left for you to prove on the field mate......think about it...

Wouldn’t a picture of a podgy bloke leaning over a treble ticket with an imperial pint in a dark dingy pub have been more appropriate?

[Booney]

Very generous with podgy mate! Cheers.

[Roseboy]

I see that Sunday is now forecast to be 40 (not good for the Ramblers' double-wicket competition!)

So now we've had our fun this week with record temperatures and most of us are probably sick of it... Any change to the consensus that 40 is the right cut-off temperature?

Personally - I don't support it. Not just because it's too hot or that it can (and does) cause issues for players each year with trips to hospital etc, but because it's simply unfair. So much of the game between 2 evenly matched teams rides on the toss of the coin. If the following Saturday is 31, you're at a massive advantage if you called correctly first week. It's an unfair advantage even though it's due to natural causes.

My suggestion - if it's the first week of the game, the temperature limit be reduced to 36 degrees. Reason being is that you can still have a 1-day game the following week to sort out the winner under the same conditions. If it's the 2nd week of the game, bring that down to 38degrees.

The thinking is, is that it won't have that greater effect on the season as a whole, as going by the BOM's statistics, over the past 30 years, we only have an average of 18 days per year of 35degrees or more. The likelihood of those days falling on a Saturday is 1 in 7. So numbers-wise, we're only looking at maybe 1-2 days a year we *might* not play.

If that means a fairer competition and less undue injuries/illness/fatalaties, I'm all for it.

Thoughts?

[Gowser]

It should be 37 in my opinion. As soon as the outside temperature is the same or greater than the core body temp, we shouldn't play. The rule should be one for player safety and not altered to accommodate fairness. While not as extreme, winning the toss on any week usually gives one side an advantage in terms of weather conditions.

[woodublieve12]

toughen up ladies!!!

[wycbloods]

I see that Sunday is now forecast to be 40 (not good for the Ramblers' double-wicket competition!)

So now we've had our fun this week with record temperatures and most of us are probably sick of it... Any change to the consensus that 40 is the right cut-off temperature?

Personally - I don't support it. Not just because it's too hot or that it can (and does) cause issues for players each year with trips to hospital etc, but because it's simply unfair. So much of the game between 2 evenly matched teams rides on the toss of the coin. If the following Saturday is 31, you're at a massive advantage if you called correctly first week. It's an unfair advantage even though it's due to natural causes.

My suggestion - if it's the first week of the game, the temperature limit be reduced to 36 degrees. Reason being is that you can still have a 1-day game the following week to sort out the winner under the same conditions. If it's the 2nd week of the game, bring that down to 38degrees.

The thinking is, is that it won't have that greater effect on the season as a whole, as going by the BOM's statistics, over the past 30 years, we only have an average of 18 days per year of 35degrees or more. The likelihood of those days falling on a Saturday is 1 in 7. So numbers-wise, we're only looking at maybe 1-2 days a year we *might* not play.

If that means a fairer competition and less undue injuries/illness/fatalaties, I'm all for it.

Thoughts?

Interesting thoughts there RB. Looks like you have plenty of time to think of it .

It wasn't that long ago i played on the day that was 45.4. Playing on a 39 degree day now isn't that exciting for me. I certainly think as time goes on and things change in your life playing cricket in that heat isn't the first thing that comes to my mind. Health comes before all of the other things in life and we should be minimising the impact on our health. Whether that means we play in 35 degree heat and not 36 degree heat i don't know but whatever the temp that is recommended by experts in the field then i would be happy to go with that.

Gowsers suggestion of 37 would be around the mark i would think 37 or 38.

Geez booney i must be getting old.

[Booney]

Smart mate, dont need to be old to be smart. Trust me.

[Amateur Footy]

Firstly Bloods I'll assume you were playing Section 1 cricket on that 45.4C day.

That is a very soft statement because I remember that day and it just happend that you were playing the Ramblers at WYC. It also happened to be that you blokes were sitting in the shade watching while your batsmen demolished a "thirsty" Ramblers attack. We'd made 210 the prior week and you blokes knocked them over not much after tea I reckon. I recall "running" in from the southern end and attempting to bowl into a strong northerly.

I don't reckon that day was too hard on you!

That day was the reason for the original 42C heat rule (which was still a joke mind you). 40C I'm comfortable with - particularly in section 1 (lower grades I'd be in favour of a 38C rule).

[Amateur Footy]

By the way Bloods, the 'soft' part of you statement was not so much the brief mention of the 45C day, but just wanting to drop the heat rule temperature. RB you are included. I may be persuaded into 38C after a long time, but no lower. think 40C is ok. Atleast we have a heat rule now anyway - means we get a couple of days off most summers to do more important things...