Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

[words of wisdom]

Any truth that Mark Nash was given out (run out) on a dead ball on the weekend? Poor decision by a good ump but probably a worse show of sportsmenship by the opposition not calling him back.... Wonder who took the bails off?

[Richard Chee Quee]

Any truth that Mark Nash was given out (run out) on a dead ball on the weekend? Poor decision by a good ump but probably a worse show of sportsmenship by the opposition not calling him back.... Wonder who took the bails off?

I had heard there was bit going on in that game but nothing else. would be pretty poor if this is the case and wasnt called back. can some of the compass boys enlighten us a little more??

[damian]

Any truth that Mark Nash was given out (run out) on a dead ball on the weekend? Poor decision by a good ump but probably a worse show of sportsmenship by the opposition not calling him back.... Wonder who took the bails off?

I had heard there was bit going on in that game but nothing else. would be pretty poor if this is the case and wasnt called back. can some of the compass boys enlighten us a little more??

The ball clearly hit the middle of the pitch, Nash played the ball to mid-wicket and stopped in his crease, waiting for Umpire Doyle to call the dead ball. The batsman at the non-strikers end ran and ended up at the strikers end but Nash stayed at his end. At this stage Doyle had not called the dead ball. There was time for Nash to walk to the other end just incase it wasn't called but still he remained at his end. The ball was fielded, thrown in to the bowlers end and after a few words from Nash to the bowler the bails were taken off.

Doyle then called the ball dead which the Goolwa lads thought meant he would be not out. But then he said you can get run out of a dead ball. So Nash was out. He had the opportunity to make up the ground but chose not to.

Nothing wrong with the sportsmanship at Goolwa.

[Offcutter]

How can you be out if no ball was bowled?, ie, dead ball by hitting the concrete (and as mentioned, was signalled by the umpire), meant that no ball was bowled. Sure, I understand you can be run out if attempting a run after say, the ball hit the batsmen's pads whilst not playing a shot, and hence a dead ball. But in that case, that ball counts as a ball in the over.

But how can the batsmen be out, in any way, if no ball has been bowled? The Mankad rule has gone, and I can't think of any other way in which a batsmen can be given out, if a ball has actually not been bowled?

If Shooter hit the ball straight to a fielder and was caught, if the ball did in fact hit the concrete and was a dead ball, he is not out. So how can he be run out in the same circumstances??

[damian]

Same question i was asking on Saturday. I didn't think you could get out in anyway once a dead ball has been bowled.

But Doyle did not call the dead ball until after the runout, then said you're still out as you can be run out of a dead ball.

Goolwa continued playing due to the ball not being called dead as you do in footy if the ball crosses the boundary line etc, you keep playing until you hear the umpires call. That's the mistake Nash made.

[kick it to your mom]

Same question i was asking on Saturday. I didn't think you could get out in anyway once a dead ball has been bowled.

But Doyle did not call the dead ball until after the runout, then said you're still out as you can be run out of a dead ball.

Goolwa continued playing due to the ball not being called dead as you do in footy if the ball crosses the boundary line etc, you keep playing until you hear the umpires call. That's the mistake Nash made.

terrible comparison

[Offcutter]

What ball of the over was Nash dismissed on?

[ROCKYB]

The ball was hit to the out field to a player and then thrown to bowlers end,we just ran him out as umpire had not signal anything so you play the ball as if is not called dead,then Nash kick up a stink about it and Doyle said that he was out then called dead ball,even Nash didnt not no what the correct rule was,as for calling him back would you of done this if a paid umpire has given him out i dont think so,same as last week when one of our players got caught on the 7 ball as we all was yelling out to stop bowling before ball was bowled and Doyle still let the wicket happen,bad sportsmanship the Port Elliot Captain Gavin Smith should done something about that as well then,but hey thats CRICKET and SHIT happens ,IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET OFF YOUR ASS AND UMPIRE if you think you can do a better job.

[ROCKYB]

Last ball and yes i did say that i should of had another ball to go but he called over.

[Offcutter]

Exactly

[damian]

In the end, it was a bad decision by Nash not to get in his crease.

[Hot Pies]

bloods as silly as you are you make some valids points. it doesnt take depth to win games of cricket. it takes individual efforts. a few years back we were beaten in a prelim by JI all by himself. made 100 and then took early wicket the next day. peeky has single handedly kept willunga in the hunt for fianls this year, with brucey elliot being the only other one to contribute at any stage. if elliot make finals they will be just a dangerous as any other side. on paper not as good but be careful.

on the club you would play for. i know it will sound bias but i would play for the enc bay. we have a turf wicket. good club facilities. good training facilities and good people.

bloods i would like to know who the 'big headed' ones are from the bay. i think we can add moller to the list but i would like to know who else pumps themselves up more than necessary. i would be surpirsed if you can find another ligit candidate for that list.

I would also add young quick Aaron Moules to that list... very arrogant, but by saying that... both Aaron & Adam are great players... & as for Port Elliot... they might have a decent bowling line up but it wont be enuf for them this weekend, even if the chances do come, young Hamish Robertson will most likely drop them...

yes good call didnt mind the drops on the weekend hadnt dropped two catches in the past 2 seasons so to drop two on the weekend comes gracefully! shouldnt of had that chat with rory out the back when i got out

[Hot Pies]

bloods as silly as you are you make some valids points. it doesnt take depth to win games of cricket. it takes individual efforts. a few years back we were beaten in a prelim by JI all by himself. made 100 and then took early wicket the next day. peeky has single handedly kept willunga in the hunt for fianls this year, with brucey elliot being the only other one to contribute at any stage. if elliot make finals they will be just a dangerous as any other side. on paper not as good but be careful.

on the club you would play for. i know it will sound bias but i would play for the enc bay. we have a turf wicket. good club facilities. good training facilities and good people.

bloods i would like to know who the 'big headed' ones are from the bay. i think we can add moller to the list but i would like to know who else pumps themselves up more than necessary. i would be surpirsed if you can find another ligit candidate for that list.

beveridge,modra,ricey parry....thers a few

[W.P.U.J.C.Vaas]

doyley just got his dead ball run outs mixed up thats all, still not good enough though robbed nashy of a likely ton.

[stab pass]

Bloods stop posting such crap.Do everyone a favour and try posting something constructive!!

[basket case]

we have been told at an umpiers meeting if the ball hits the concrete a dead ball will only be called if the ball changes direction or bouncess higher or stays lower than one would expect if this does not happen the ball will be played as a legal delivery

[Jimmy Recard]

bloods as silly as you are you make some valids points. it doesnt take depth to win games of cricket. it takes individual efforts. a few years back we were beaten in a prelim by JI all by himself. made 100 and then took early wicket the next day. peeky has single handedly kept willunga in the hunt for fianls this year, with brucey elliot being the only other one to contribute at any stage. if elliot make finals they will be just a dangerous as any other side. on paper not as good but be careful.

on the club you would play for. i know it will sound bias but i would play for the enc bay. we have a turf wicket. good club facilities. good training facilities and good people.

bloods i would like to know who the 'big headed' ones are from the bay. i think we can add moller to the list but i would like to know who else pumps themselves up more than necessary. i would be surpirsed if you can find another ligit candidate for that list.

beveridge,modra,ricey parry....thers a few

moller, beaver & parry are all good blokes on and off the field, only played a few times against mods and not sure of this ricey bloke, but maybe if ya took some time after the game to have a beer and get to know other players in the comp you might think differently.

[damian]

we have been told at an umpiers meeting if the ball hits the concrete a dead ball will only be called if the ball changes direction or bouncess higher or stays lower than one would expect if this does not happen the ball will be played as a legal delivery

This ball was not affected, even more reason why Nash should have made up his ground.

[Offcutter]

we have been told at an umpiers meeting if the ball hits the concrete a dead ball will only be called if the ball changes direction or bouncess higher or stays lower than one would expect if this does not happen the ball will be played as a legal delivery

But if a dead ball is called, can you be run out off of it? (dead ball for hitting the concrete, not for attempting a run after the ball has struck the batsmen without playing a shot)?

A tricky one...

If Shooter had hit the ball to the boundary, would a dead ball still have been called?

[killer instinct]

A dead ball is a particular state of play in which the players may not perform any of the active aspects of the game, in other words... the batsmen may not score runs and the fielders may not attempt to get the batsmen out... therefore nashy should not have been given out