Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

[wycbloods]

My cricket is a great system IMO. I like being able to see scoreboards on sat night / sun morning.

Can't say that I agree with putting team lists in before the game. Can't see the point other than to prevent clubs from changing selected sides to qualify players when an opposing club forfeits.

10 mins to put socres in? Obviously the scorebooks all add up at WYC.

It makes it easier entering the scores when the opposition has their team in.

Captains are responsible for ensuring the books add up before being given to whoever is entering the scores.

[wycbloods]

AF/RB good to see you blokes getting some junior system going, will be well worth the effort in a few years.

and it is a disgrace sheidow park has been fined this much, fair enough rules are rules but we have 12 teams to enter every week. why do they have to be entered so early? whats wrong with them being entered by tuesday because before mycricket thats when we found out the scores of other games anyway through the advertiser. this among other stupid things is the reason why this association has a very long way to go!!!

No it isn't Sheidow just need to do what is expected of all clubs it isn't that hard. All clubs had an opportunity to make an amendment to the motion which was put forward at this years agm and they chose not to. Sunday midday is the time which the advertiser want the scores so they can have them in either monday or tuesdays paper. It takes about 10 minutes to put a teams score into mycricket, i don't understand all the fuss. If clubs are relying on one person to enter all scores then that is an issue they need to work through themselves.

bloods the association is gonna be making alot of money out of this from clubs that are trying to do the right thing, sure it was passed at the agm but it doesnt mean it cant be looked into again and rectify the flaws in this rediculous system... they arent even this harsh at district or turf level so why do we have to do it at this level. mycricket is just a lazy option for the association so they dont have dont run a website and now they are making money off it through rediculous rules and fines.

WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO GO?

If clubs are trying to do the right thing then why is their a problem . It can be looked at again, clubs need to raise their concerns at the meetings not on an internet forum. If they feel there are issues with the current system then bring them up and i am sure there will be a fair outcome for the clubs.

You also need to remember that the ASCA is run by volunteers not like the other associations you mentioned. But i am sure your club will be happy paying the ATCA's fees so that you don't have to enter scores in by midday sunday .

The money, do you really need to ask where it goes. People like you piss it up against the wall.

[CoverKing]

AF, dont your captains work out the scorebooks before leaving the oval??
so at WYC once there at Westies for presos, it should all add up, and be easy to put in. Captains responsibility (or in our case scorers, since our captain cant add things up )

I also agree MyCricket is great, i like looking up sides and results after the game. Sides are only required so scores can be entered remotely close to the players involved in the game. Only reason the teams are required.

Money goes to the association JB and for their use.

however i do agree, that Mycricket should not be a replacement for the association website. The president should definitely be making inroads to a website being updated regularly with the honour boards and past grand finals.

[jb]

AF/RB good to see you blokes getting some junior system going, will be well worth the effort in a few years.

and it is a disgrace sheidow park has been fined this much, fair enough rules are rules but we have 12 teams to enter every week. why do they have to be entered so early? whats wrong with them being entered by tuesday because before mycricket thats when we found out the scores of other games anyway through the advertiser. this among other stupid things is the reason why this association has a very long way to go!!!

No it isn't Sheidow just need to do what is expected of all clubs it isn't that hard. All clubs had an opportunity to make an amendment to the motion which was put forward at this years agm and they chose not to. Sunday midday is the time which the advertiser want the scores so they can have them in either monday or tuesdays paper. It takes about 10 minutes to put a teams score into mycricket, i don't understand all the fuss. If clubs are relying on one person to enter all scores then that is an issue they need to work through themselves.

bloods the association is gonna be making alot of money out of this from clubs that are trying to do the right thing, sure it was passed at the agm but it doesnt mean it cant be looked into again and rectify the flaws in this rediculous system... they arent even this harsh at district or turf level so why do we have to do it at this level. mycricket is just a lazy option for the association so they dont have dont run a website and now they are making money off it through rediculous rules and fines.

WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO GO?

If clubs are trying to do the right thing then why is their a problem . It can be looked at again, clubs need to raise their concerns at the meetings not on an internet forum. If they feel there are issues with the current system then bring them up and i am sure there will be a fair outcome for the clubs.

You also need to remember that the ASCA is run by volunteers not like the other associations you mentioned. But i am sure your club will be happy paying the ATCA's fees so that you don't have to enter scores in by midday sunday .

The money, do you really need to ask where it goes. People like you piss it up against the wall.

we can tell...

[Booney]

I must have stumbled across some sort of bizzaro world cricket forum, the blokes in this one are talking about real cricket issues....

[wycbloods]

No it isn't Sheidow just need to do what is expected of all clubs it isn't that hard. All clubs had an opportunity to make an amendment to the motion which was put forward at this years agm and they chose not to. Sunday midday is the time which the advertiser want the scores so they can have them in either monday or tuesdays paper. It takes about 10 minutes to put a teams score into mycricket, i don't understand all the fuss. If clubs are relying on one person to enter all scores then that is an issue they need to work through themselves.

bloods the association is gonna be making alot of money out of this from clubs that are trying to do the right thing, sure it was passed at the agm but it doesnt mean it cant be looked into again and rectify the flaws in this rediculous system... they arent even this harsh at district or turf level so why do we have to do it at this level. mycricket is just a lazy option for the association so they dont have dont run a website and now they are making money off it through rediculous rules and fines.

WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO GO?

If clubs are trying to do the right thing then why is their a problem . It can be looked at again, clubs need to raise their concerns at the meetings not on an internet forum. If they feel there are issues with the current system then bring them up and i am sure there will be a fair outcome for the clubs.

You also need to remember that the ASCA is run by volunteers not like the other associations you mentioned. But i am sure your club will be happy paying the ATCA's fees so that you don't have to enter scores in by midday sunday .

The money, do you really need to ask where it goes. People like you piss it up against the wall.

we can tell...

Yep and we saw people from Sheidow coming up with such magnificent motions for the AGM . Maybe when Sheidow contribute more than words on here and money for the associations coffers through fines then, and only then will your bagging of the association and the way it is run hold some currency. Until then step up and do something or stop whingeing about it.

[jb]

how do we know we are not being "made example of" once again??? where is the associations consistency...

last year mal condon copped a 2 game suspension for dissent (did not call the umpire a cheat) and we all wore that on the chin. but when a player we played against called our umpire a CHEAT (after the association sent out a very strong email saying players will be dealt with harshly if the word cheat was used) all we got from the association was "it is the end of the season and we will deal with it at the beggining of next season". well the next season comes along and the association says its too late to deal with it and he gets away with it. which mal took it as a personal attack on himself and our club.

if you're questioning the support of our club towards the association, we have always supported the association games, offering up players to play every time when other clubs have players just not rock up, we also have supporters come to watch the games. We also pay our subscriptions on time and never miss attendance to a meeting. Our club has never forfeited a game unlike alot of other clubs going around (That is what prompted our motion at the AGM)

now in our time of need where we cant even drink at our club during the week because training has been transfered to another (colder) facility losing alot of money the association is asking 200 odd dollars because our scores are in a little late.

[wycbloods]

how do we know we are not being "made example of" once again??? where is the associations consistency...

last year mal condon copped a 2 game suspension for dissent (did not call the umpire a cheat) and we all wore that on the chin. but when a player we played against called our umpire a CHEAT (after the association sent out a very strong email saying players will be dealt with harshly if the word cheat was used) all we got from the association was "it is the end of the season and we will deal with it at the beggining of next season". well the next season comes along and the association says its too late to deal with it and he gets away with it. which mal took it as a personal attack on himself and our club.

if you're questioning the support of our club towards the association, we have always supported the association games, offering up players to play every time when other clubs have players just not rock up, we also have supporters come to watch the games. We also pay our subscriptions on time and never miss attendance to a meeting. Our club has never forfeited a game unlike alot of other clubs going around (That is what prompted our motion at the AGM)

now in our time of need where we cant even drink at our club during the week because training has been transfered to another (colder) facility losing alot of money the association is asking 200 odd dollars because our scores are in a little late.

I don't know all the facts with Mal's case but on the surface of it i agree it looks like he was made an example of and that decision and subsequent email hasn't been followed through by the association. If it were a player at my club i would be sending in a letter stating those concerns.

With the fines for scores i don't think you are alone with being fined there so i don't think you are being singled out in this instance. I wasn't suggesting your club doesn't support the association Sheidow along with Keswick, Nth Haven and WYC are the few clubs who do support the association in rep teams.

I think that if Sheidow has a genuine concern with the score rule then they should address it at next weeks meeting. I look forward to hearing what they have to say.

[smithy]

Be thankful that the A&SCA is rather strict on entering results online.
Sometimes 2-3 rounds after completion of an SCA game (going on last season) it's still incomplete and I don't think there is a fine system in place.

[wycbloods]

Be thankful that the A&SCA is rather strict on entering results online.
Sometimes 2-3 rounds after completion of an SCA game (going on last season) it's still incomplete and I don't think there is a fine system in place.

Yep that is the alternative.

[CoverKing]

Not knowing the full details with the fines, TL or JB may be able to inform, but have u received fines for different rounds and not entering scores in?
If thats the case, if u received all fines at once for the same thing, then IMO that is wrong by the association and you should only cop the first fine. However if u have received each fine the week after the stuff up occured, then IMO the first one may be able to wiped clean, but the rest are your own clubs fault and should be paid...

[CoverKing]

JB if Sheidow leave it one bloke it is definitely harder to do it in time (altho not that hard). Maybe sheidow should work out a person from each side to do it each week, it would take each person ten minutes. Not that hard, and better off doing that then copping a fine!

[jb]

thats not the issue ck... The issue is they have to be entered on saturday night, not sure if u have seen our facilities down there but unlike most other clubs we dont have a laptop computer and wireless internet... So your asking blokes to go home on a saturday night and enter the scores? i dunno about u but i would love to give up half hour of my time on a saturday night to enter scores so the nerds from the association can log on while they are touching themselves on oaisis active and look up some scores!!!

[wycbloods]

thats not the issue ck... The issue is they have to be entered on saturday night, not sure if u have seen our facilities down there but unlike most other clubs we dont have a laptop computer and wireless internet... So your asking blokes to go home on a saturday night and enter the scores? i dunno about u but i would love to give up half hour of my time on a saturday night to enter scores so the nerds from the association can log on while they are touching themselves on oaisis active and look up some scores!!!

Surely one or two blokes can take the score books home and do it on sunday morning. 15 minutes isn't too much to ask surely????????????

You can't tell me there isn't anyone who goes home at a reasonable hour on a saturday night. The whole club surely isn't as loose as you .

[CoverKing]

JB scores need to be done by midday Sunday. Surely the club can get a person from each team or one per two sides, to do it sunday morning!!! It takes 15 minutes max, if the captains get the scorebooks added up at the ground.....

Having a dig at the association is fine, but you should make sure u no the rules before u have a crack at them. Its sunday midday the scores need to be done by

[bazza1]

I must have stumbled across some sort of bizzaro world cricket forum, the blokes in this one are talking about real cricket issues....

thats not the issue ck... The issue is they have to be entered on saturday night, not sure if u have seen our facilities down there but unlike most other clubs we dont have a laptop computer and wireless internet... So your asking blokes to go home on a saturday night and enter the scores? i dunno about u but i would love to give up half hour of my time on a saturday night to enter scores so the nerds from the association can log on while they are touching themselves on oaisis active and look up some scores!!!

Ahhhhhh, thats better, back to normal

[wycbloods]

I must have stumbled across some sort of bizzaro world cricket forum, the blokes in this one are talking about real cricket issues....

thats not the issue ck... The issue is they have to be entered on saturday night, not sure if u have seen our facilities down there but unlike most other clubs we dont have a laptop computer and wireless internet... So your asking blokes to go home on a saturday night and enter the scores? i dunno about u but i would love to give up half hour of my time on a saturday night to enter scores so the nerds from the association can log on while they are touching themselves on oaisis active and look up some scores!!!

Ahhhhhh, thats better, back to normal

It was never going to take long, lets be honest .

[Tight_Lines]

Alright I'am the person from Sheidow that puts the scores in for the seniors and last week i didnt get them in till bout 8 Sunday so im copping those fines doesnt make it easy when you get home on a sunday. But the thing that gets me is the first 2 weeks of the season i headed home from the club put the scores in for each game on time but still copped fines for not confirming scores i just forgot from last year but instead of an email saying dont forget to confirm or enter teams etc etc 2 Rounds later we get the fines.

And in theory it sounds easy for 1 person from each side to do it but its never that easy we've had people every week say yeah ill bring up a laptop. guys buy a laptop for the club which was a shambles but they are never relyable. Im working flat out to help the club but I mean i asked a simple job to get invoices for our sponsors printed its been a month and mountain of excuses as all clubs there are the people you can rely on but most are hard to put faith in.

As JB said we just dont have the facilities as other clubs and ATM we dont have a home ground and we mostly stand around a car at Capella with no lights and that beautiful sea breeze at night. The thing that takes so long is every week we have half a dozen changes every saturday morning teams all over the place and each week we've had a new player be called in or junior come up on a saturday morning and its a pain adding them into Mycricket it takes up time.

The rules are there I know but come on 20$ for every pissy little mistake get real and we know the money goes to the association but does for what? Association match piss ups?

[CoverKing]

TL, Sheidow copping the fine for the first 2 rounds at once for not confirming is a joke IMO.
If you copped the round 1 fine in the week between the games and then did the same mistake in rd 2 fair enough, but how can the club know it made a mistake if it cops two fines at once.

Gd luck to all sides today. CMON the ramblers, get over ICC today.

Cmon the youth centre

[Booney]

Gold bazza,Gold.

You did aks your blokes to go easy one me, right?