Heat Policy

[interested observer]

Such wise words in this thread from you hof. I'm impressed. It simply isn't worth the risk and regardless of saying if you prepare correctly it will be fine there is still the potential for people to get seriously ill or die.

For the record the ATCA's policy is that A1-A3 play but all other grades are cancelled if it is forecast to be 40C at 9:00am on the day of play. If the SACA call off grade cricket then the ATCA will follow by calling off A1-A3 as well.

Is the assumption then that A1-A3 players are of a better physical condition to other grades?
Or is it assumed that they prepare better by not destroying themselves on a Friday night?

I would suggest NO to either !!!!!!!!

[shoe boy]

[I remember when we played whatever the temp was and I used to believe it was not in anyones interest to play in those conditions. The only prob was that if the capt's got together and called it off you only recevied the points at the stage of the game or came back next week and play a one dayer while down the road another game may continue. Now we have a peg in the ground and all are in the same boat.

I umpired a game between M/Vale and S/R when the temp was 44 about 5 years ago and within an hour of the start of the game we had 2 lads one a batter and one a fielder who did not bowl under the showers effected with heat stress and both became very ill.

Just for your info the Southern Cricket's heat policy is
Seniors 40
14/16 38
13 wed night cricket 36
All are in conjunction with channel nine news @6pm the night b4 and we go by Adelaide temp.[/quote]


hey Shoe boy... I am new to this forum, but have been a keen reader for some time...
Question for you...
Were you a better umpire than cricketer ???[/quote]

A much better cricketer

[rod_rooster]

Such wise words in this thread from you hof. I'm impressed. It simply isn't worth the risk and regardless of saying if you prepare correctly it will be fine there is still the potential for people to get seriously ill or die.

For the record the ATCA's policy is that A1-A3 play but all other grades are cancelled if it is forecast to be 40C at 9:00am on the day of play. If the SACA call off grade cricket then the ATCA will follow by calling off A1-A3 as well.

Is the assumption then that A1-A3 players are of a better physical condition to other grades?
Or is it assumed that they prepare better by not destroying themselves on a Friday night?

I would suggest NO to either !!!!!!!!

I would agree. Personally i think that they should have a blanket policy for all grades.

[tedbullpit]

Such wise words in this thread from you hof. I'm impressed. It simply isn't worth the risk and regardless of saying if you prepare correctly it will be fine there is still the potential for people to get seriously ill or die.

For the record the ATCA's policy is that A1-A3 play but all other grades are cancelled if it is forecast to be 40C at 9:00am on the day of play. If the SACA call off grade cricket then the ATCA will follow by calling off A1-A3 as well.

Is the assumption then that A1-A3 players are of a better physical condition to other grades?
Or is it assumed that they prepare better by not destroying themselves on a Friday night?

I would suggest NO to either !!!!!!!!

I would agree. Personally i think that they should have a blanket policy for all grades.

Up until last year they had a blanket cancellation for all grades but a majority of A1-A3 clubs indicated to the ATCA that they would prefer to play rather than have games called off; hence the change.

[Booney]

I put this to you all.

If Saturday is forecast as just 39,on the back of 3 consecutive 40+ days should the assosciation take matters into their own hands and call the days play off?

I think it should. For this is an exceptionally long period of high temperatures and some captains, ( I for one ) would be looking to discuss the cancellation of play with my counter part,purely for the welfare of the team I lead. If I or any other captain wished to take this course and the opposition captain wanted to play I think it could get sticky. ( No pun intendid)

Thoughts?

Remember,we are two days from the moment that the forecast of 40 is required for cancellation. Things could change.

[krustymirkin]

the president of the SCA was on the phone last night discussing exactly what u are on about Booney,how can we possible play sat even if the weather is under 40,the damage has already been done.

[risetothetop]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

[Booney]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

Yep,in your head.Thats where you would firstly lose the most bodily fluid from,around the brain.Then major orgams look for moisture and you start cooking from the inside out.

I suppose sunscreen and hats are weak too?

If you play for your country,sure,get out there,if you play for 60 overs in a hit and giggle comp you would have to be stupid.

[rod_rooster]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

Yep,in your head.Thats where you would firstly lose the most bodily fluid from,around the brain.Then major orgams look for moisture and you start cooking from the inside out.

I suppose sunscreen and hats are weak too?

If you play for your country,sure,get out there,if you play for 60 overs in a hit and giggle comp you would have to be stupid.

Good post Booney.

[interested observer]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

Yep,in your head.Thats where you would firstly lose the most bodily fluid from,around the brain.Then major orgams look for moisture and you start cooking from the inside out.

I suppose sunscreen and hats are weak too?

If you play for your country,sure,get out there,if you play for 60 overs in a hit and giggle comp you would have to be stupid.

Good post Booney.

One thing to be mindful of from an ATCA point of view...
History says that they have always been hesitant in calling off 2nd weeks of games, whether it be for heat or rain..
I personally do not think that will change, even though Phillips has already shown he has more balls that others previous..
I would suggest his decision will be based on what SACA do...

[rod_rooster]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

Yep,in your head.Thats where you would firstly lose the most bodily fluid from,around the brain.Then major orgams look for moisture and you start cooking from the inside out.

I suppose sunscreen and hats are weak too?

If you play for your country,sure,get out there,if you play for 60 overs in a hit and giggle comp you would have to be stupid.

Good post Booney.

One thing to be mindful of from an ATCA point of view...
History says that they have always been hesitant in calling off 2nd weeks of games, whether it be for heat or rain..
I personally do not think that will change, even though Phillips has already shown he has more balls that others previous..
I would suggest his decision will be based on what SACA do...

The Turf will go by their policy so you'd be right. A1- A3 will play unless the SACA call off grade cricket. It would be big call from Phillips to go against this and whilst i don't believe he would i personally think it would be an excellent decision to call of all games particularly in the light of the tradgedy that occurred in the ATCA last season. Many may disagree but putting the health and welfare of all players should be a priority for every association IMHO.

Booney your point regarding if the forecast drops to 39C is a very interesting one. As you have said with the weather being so hot for so long the damage is already done. As much as people keep saying to toughen up and that preperation is the key it must be remembered that we are not talking professional sportspeople here. This is amatuer sport and it is very unlikely that the majority of players would be adequately hydrated given the extended spell of heat we have endured.

[DILLIGAF]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

Yep,in your head.Thats where you would firstly lose the most bodily fluid from,around the brain.Then major orgams look for moisture and you start cooking from the inside out.

I suppose sunscreen and hats are weak too?

If you play for your country,sure,get out there,if you play for 60 overs in a hit and giggle comp you would have to be stupid.

we normaly play 75 overs but one day game this week only 45 in the field have a teaspoon of concrete and harden the f**k up

[Booney]

No problems DILLIGAF,when you blokes decide who has won the sheepstation you can find me in the pub to let me know.

[DILLIGAF]

No problems DILLIGAF,when you blokes decide who has won the sheepstation you can find me in the pub to let me know.

will do we need more lamb ate mine on aussie day

[interested observer]

No problems DILLIGAF,when you blokes decide who has won the sheepstation you can find me in the pub to let me know.

will do we need more lamb ate mine on aussie day

Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not one of your blokes in a fair bit of strife a few weeks back ??

[Lightning McQueen]

All PDCA junior games for the weekend have already been cancelled along with the womens comp that is played on Mondays. Here's to hoping to get the whole weekend off.

[DILLIGAF]

No problems DILLIGAF,when you blokes decide who has won the sheepstation you can find me in the pub to let me know.

will do we need more lamb ate mine on aussie day

Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not one of your blokes in a fair bit of strife a few weeks back ??

yeh but that wasnt heat related that was just bad luck

[wycbloods]

I am sure all the tough guys saying we should all just "harden up" would be the first to seek legal advice if they were to fall ill due to playing cricket in extreme heat and the association didn't call it off. Common sense will prevail, and most comps won't play, and as booney said most of the damage will be done before saturday comes around so this will be a factor in the decision making.

I personally wouldn't mind playing in 40 if the rest of the ASCA section 1 played but i am happy if the decision is we are called off.

[Bluedemon]

cricketers now days need to harden up its all in ur head as to how hot it is

Yep,in your head.Thats where you would firstly lose the most bodily fluid from,around the brain.Then major orgams look for moisture and you start cooking from the inside out.

I suppose sunscreen and hats are weak too?

If you play for your country,sure,get out there,if you play for 60 overs in a hit and giggle comp you would have to be stupid.

Good post Booney.

One thing to be mindful of from an ATCA point of view...
History says that they have always been hesitant in calling off 2nd weeks of games, whether it be for heat or rain..
I personally do not think that will change, even though Phillips has already shown he has more balls that others previous..
I would suggest his decision will be based on what SACA do...

The turf have called off games for the second week of a round beforehand, they did that once either last year or the year before.

[BluesBrother08]

Last year when all the hoo ha came about in the MTCA because a final was called off because of heat we spoke to a local doctor here about the dangers. He belived even 40 was too hot to be playing. He said that the natural body temperature was 36 or 38 can't quite remember and if we expose our body's to anything over that for long periods of time then it can become quite dangerous. He thought the heat policy should be 38. Also remeber that the temperature is always measured in the shade so if the temp is 40 in the shade it will be 2-5 degrees hotter in the sun. People have to realise that the associations need to look after the welfare of their players first and by scrapping a heat policy for finals which the MTCA has done they are being negligent and opening themselves up to legal action.

Also how would you feel if it was your brother or your best mate who dies from heat stroke because he played cricket because there was no heat policy. I know how I would feel and I know who I would go after, the administrators who decided the stupid policy. We are not playing professional sport and to put ourselves at risk to play an amateur game is just ridiculous and if anyone doesn't agree then they are just kidding themselves.