Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

[wycbloods]

However, Calderbanks figures are hard to dismiss from last year. Great year from him with the ball!

I'll dismiss them . I believe it shows the lack of ability of section 1 batsmen to play straight. But kudos to him for exploiting it.

[jb]

the best spinner in the comp is sam foster

u cant pick luders ahead of mackay

if u blokes to about 30 wickets last year u would expect to play association cricket yeah? i agree hes no good but every1 said hauritz was too...

[CoverKing]

the best spinner in the comp is sam foster

u cant pick luders ahead of mackay

if u blokes to about 30 wickets last year u would expect to play association cricket yeah? i agree hes no good but every1 said hauritz was too...

It is a 40 over game JB. Mackay batting at 5 or so, would not benefit the side IMO. I just think Mackay is still going on what he did 4/5 years ago in our comp. Yes luders, has only played 2 games, but the time the side is picked in a month or so, he would have 4/5 games, and bloods and I know how good he is! For mine, he could be the best bat in the comp come years end!

And i thought, after Luders took Cookie and Clements apart, you would atleast give him some credit How much have u seen of Mackay JB???

I agree either way with the Calderbank issue. I understand if he gets picked, i understand if he doesnt!

[CoverKing]

The association gets this wrong year after year IMO.

You pick the best side for a one day game. For too long, the association side has been picked on reputation, and the best side for the game has not been picked.

EG: sarge playing last year and batting low down the order in the PDCC game? If u are picking a player to bat at 8 or 9, wouldnt it make sense to pick someone such as a Tonkes/pritchard who can wack a quick 30 off 10 balls. Sarge was the best bat in the comp last year, he is a player that builds an innings and bats time. If he was to play, he shouldve opened IMO.

[jb]

the best spinner in the comp is sam foster

u cant pick luders ahead of mackay

if u blokes to about 30 wickets last year u would expect to play association cricket yeah? i agree hes no good but every1 said hauritz was too...

It is a 40 over game JB. Mackay batting at 5 or so, would not benefit the side IMO. I just think Mackay is still going on what he did 4/5 years ago in our comp. Yes luders, has only played 2 games, but the time the side is picked in a month or so, he would have 4/5 games, and bloods and I know how good he is! For mine, he could be the best bat in the comp come years end!

And i thought, after Luders took Cookie and Clements apart, you would atleast give him some credit How much have u seen of Mackay JB???

I agree either way with the Calderbank issue. I understand if he gets picked, i understand if he doesnt!

didnt mackay captain the side to a spot on adelaide oval 2 seasons ago? since this time he has played a year of premier league turf? and he made 70 rd 1?

and luders took clements apart but not cookie, he was scared of cookie

who would u rather see come out to bat at 3/20 out of mackay and luders? i know where my money is.

[CoverKing]

JB lets not be stupid now! scared of Cookie? Now i rate cookie very highly, but saying a batsman is scared of him is idiotic. i would expect more from u! Cookie bowls at reasonable pace, but i wouldnt expect our number 11 to be scared of him or any number 11 for that matter...


yes he did captain the side 2 years ago, but im not sure what he did in the three games that year??

And yes he did play most of last year in the Premier League for Brighton, altho not successfully with an average of 13.2 in 10 innings!!

For mine i still would rather see Luders come in at 3/20, altho in my side he wouldnt be batting at 5 in my association side

And also he did make 70 against North Haven, who has a fairly weak attack, and then came up against the strongest attack in the comp and made ???

For mine, Luders ahead of him! Yes he is a fine player, but not in the best 6 batsman IMO, and i think Luders is!

[Gowser]

Name your 6

[The sarge]

Heath Made a pretty good 35 not out off about 16 balls in one of those games and his bowling is handy too in the middle overs. If there is no spinner I would get Heath to bowl. I have only seen Luders bat once and he hit the ball in the air way too much. I mean it is hard to compare the two players when you are saying Heath hasn't done much in recent years but Luders has only played 2 games.

[wycbloods]

Neagle has only played 2 games but JB was happy to pick him.

[CoverKing]

Name your 6

I assume your speaking to me

Sampson
Hopkins
Luders
Rusty
Rowe
Pritchard
McRae
Basso
Press (altho wont play)

I think we also got to take into account the fact that some of the better players wont play, as is the case every year ... Rowe was unavailable last year, and im sure there will be more this year.

Also, im picking my side, for the game, the best players suited for a one day game and batting positions and team balance. Just my opinion.

Gowser/sarge wat would ur sides be?

I know what u are saying their Sarge! Hit the ball in the air he did, but im pretty sure he continued to clear the fielders, with geniune half volleys or half trackers!

Does heath even bowl for Keswick??

And with Scott only playing two games, didnt JB pick a bloke that has played 2 games, and only playing until Xmas??

[CoverKing]

Also, depends on who you ask, Mick Miller should make the side

[jb]

Name your 6

Curyer
Sampson
Mackay
Hopkins
Condon (bazza will back me up on that)
Rowe

[CoverKing]

Name your 6

Curyer
Sampson
Mackay
Hopkins
Condon (bazza will back me up on that)
Rowe

You would happily go into an association match with that as your top 6?

[wycbloods]

Name your 6

Curyer
Sampson
Mackay
Hopkins
Condon (bazza will back me up on that)
Rowe

Can't pick Condon, despite how good he is, when he refuses to bat in the top 6 for Sheidow.

[CoverKing]

These discussions could mean SFA with the arrogance of Adelaide Turf not willing to play on hardwicket. SAMCA (CUSA) may not even have a comp yet this year!

[jb]

i was just asked to pick my top 6 batsmen in the comp
I missed out on press though so i would say him over hopkins

[Roseboy]

I agree Calderbank shouldn't be picked? Who is the best spinner in our comp?

There is no standout spinner in our comp atm IMHO.

I agree. Calderbank gets wickets, but Roseboy or AF could confirm, how often does Calderbank get the better bats out of the opposition side. FOr mine, it looks like Calderbank gets the 'cheaper' wickets, with AF, Blesing or Roseboy needed to get the big scalps for ramblers to win. Thats jsut my view on the way calderbank goes!

I believe, u pick the best 5 bowlers. if there all pace bowlers, so be it!

How quickly we forget, eh? I wasn't going to have a voice but since I was asked, here goes...

I think most, if not all of you so far have missed the point. What do you want out of a spinner? Someone who can turn the ball at right angles left and right, flipper, one that skids through... We're playing hard wicket cricket where you throw it up too much, it gets carted by some cross-the-line swinging hack, drop it too short you get dealt with in other ways. Too much room and on our small ovals (typically), it's easy to clear the fence even with a poorly timed shot.

Like any good bowler, Calderbank bowls to the batsman's weakness - and for this comp, that's almost always to bowl straight with little room for the batsman to swing at it. And what do you know - he takes 35 wickets at a bloody good clip last year. He's on his way this year too.

He's super competetive, goes for very few runs per over, great average and takes a lot of wickets. Except for not being able to turn the ball at 90degrees - remind me again why he wouldn't get picked? Yeah it's biased, certainly no more than the other posts here.

Oh, one final point. Yeah, AF and I over the past few years like to think we do our job and knock over the top few and hopefully we + Blesing will continue that. But no way known has Calderbank taken most of his wickets in the lower order - despite us wishing it was the case

[CoverKing]

i was just asked to pick my top 6 batsmen in the comp
I missed out on press though so i would say him over hopkins

Hopkins not ahead of Mackay or Condon?

I think Gowser was asking for the top 6 for the association side for a 1 dayer!!!! altho what i gave were people iwould pick ahead of Mackay as a batsman.

(saying this, we will probably see Mackay make a ton against us in rd 11 now)

[wycbloods]

I agree Calderbank shouldn't be picked? Who is the best spinner in our comp?

There is no standout spinner in our comp atm IMHO.

I agree. Calderbank gets wickets, but Roseboy or AF could confirm, how often does Calderbank get the better bats out of the opposition side. FOr mine, it looks like Calderbank gets the 'cheaper' wickets, with AF, Blesing or Roseboy needed to get the big scalps for ramblers to win. Thats jsut my view on the way calderbank goes!

I believe, u pick the best 5 bowlers. if there all pace bowlers, so be it!

How quickly we forget, eh? I wasn't going to have a voice but since I was asked, here goes...

I think most, if not all of you so far have missed the point. What do you want out of a spinner? Someone who can turn the ball at right angles left and right, flipper, one that skids through... We're playing hard wicket cricket where you throw it up too much, it gets carted by some cross-the-line swinging hack, drop it too short you get dealt with in other ways. Too much room and on our small ovals (typically), it's easy to clear the fence even with a poorly timed shot.

Like any good bowler, Calderbank bowls to the batsman's weakness - and for this comp, that's almost always to bowl straight with little room for the batsman to swing at it. And what do you know - he takes 35 wickets at a bloody good clip last year. He's on his way this year too.

He's super competetive, goes for very few runs per over, great average and takes a lot of wickets. Except for not being able to turn the ball at 90degrees - remind me again why he wouldn't get picked? Yeah it's biased, certainly no more than the other posts here.

Oh, one final point. Yeah, AF and I over the past few years like to think we do our job and knock over the top few and hopefully we + Blesing will continue that. But no way known has Calderbank taken most of his wickets in the lower order - despite us wishing it was the case

What have we forgotten RB? Calderbank is not in the best 5 bowlers in the comp IMHO and therefore wouldn't play asociation cricket for a side i was picking.

[CoverKing]

I do understand where u are coming from RB completely. IMO i wouldnt pick a spinner, unless in the best 5 bowlers in the comp. His record from last year proves that bowling straight and slow is a great tactic!

Iv stated the best 5 IMO, and i think we have all missed Mark O'Malley who is a quality bowler, who should be considered aswell.

Biased we may be with Luders, but i think we will be proven right in the near future. I still think people need to take into account, what sides players makes run/take wickets against ...

RB, sarge, Gowser, bloods, your association side for the first 1 dayer ???