SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby mickey » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:04 pm

I heard there is problem with umpire numbers for the upcoming season...

Too many wanting to take it up!
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:40 pm

Let me get this straight..

So you lot support a Sunday T20 comp but are opposed to Sat/Sun finals? :?
You don't support increase number of matches during the season but support a T20 comp on a Sunday being installed? :?

You're a confused bunch aren't ya!
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:41 pm

bara-stick wrote:If players dont make themselves available for the t20 then they should be fined and should miss a club match

Punish a player for not making themselves available for a mickey mouse format in a social cricket comp?! :? :shock:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby FitzroyCC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:55 pm

To be fair Phantom, one club has proposed the idea which is fair enough. Now it's up to the clubs to decide if it has merit.

Regarding the amount of cricket we play, I think most from our club would like to play more cricket, it's hard enough to recruit players now, you start playing less cricket it will be even harder.

If you don't want more cricket, just don't play all the games, simple really.

I thought the meeting was pretty good, one club returning, another couple which might have an extra side, should make up for the 3 clubs that have folded.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Goat Herder » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:04 pm

Heard a whisper that FCC want to vote on the Coach & Manager arrangements/appointments for the upcoming Championships, FitzroyCC..?? :shock:

I wasn't aware that candidates were popping out of the woodwork? :? Better start looking over my shoulder again... ;)
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby simmo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:10 pm

Just out of curiosity, which teams/ clubs have folded or are coming back.

On the bonus points for wickets remaining in one dayers. i think it is a good idea for if we were to return to the 7/3 format. a couple of years back we played vistas in a one dayer and got smashed. it was something along the lines of we got bowled out for 50 and they made the runs with 9 wickets left. after such a comprehensive win they ended up getting the least amount of points for a win that weekend because we didnt make many runs. and in terms of teams not going hell for leather trying to make quick runs. should we not be trying to encourage batsmen to value their wickets.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby FitzroyCC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:22 pm

Goat Herder wrote:Heard a whisper that FCC want to vote on the Coach & Manager arrangements/appointments for the upcoming Championships, FitzroyCC..?? :shock:

I wasn't aware that candidates were popping out of the woodwork? :? Better start looking over my shoulder again... ;)


Never said that at all, people should listen properly.

I asked the question has a coach/manager and what ever is needed been put in place for next season for all rep sides, because that is after all what we were talking about and was told yes, unless the new committee decides otherwise after the AGM.

Surely the clubs should know who is running the association team and what positions still need to be filled if any.

I also asked if all training dates and venues can be put on Association website with plenty of notice for all both seniors and U/21's because I am pretty sure that didn't happen last year.


While we are at it, SAMCA has said next season the U/21's will be knock out.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby FitzroyCC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:24 pm

Pretty sure Paralowie, Western X1 and Wingfield have folded and Ross Smith was at the meeting, so I would expect them back?
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Oxygen Thief » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:29 pm

Des said they were keen but desperatly looking for a ground. Mentioned something about
merging with NEK. ( merging or joining one of the two )
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Goat Herder » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:37 pm

FitzroyCC wrote:Never said that at all, people should listen properly.

I asked the question has a coach/manager and what ever is needed been put in place for next season for all rep sides, because that is after all what we were talking about and was told yes, unless the new committee decides otherwise after the AGM.

Surely the clubs should know who is running the association team and what positions still need to be filled if any.

I also asked if all training dates and venues can be put on Association website with plenty of notice for all both seniors and U/21's because I am pretty sure that didn't happen last year.

While we are at it, SAMCA has said next season the U/21's will be knock out.


Thanks for clarifying mate. ;)

Several meetings were held over the last month and a half or thereabouts regarding the positions and agreed upon by the Exec. I'm not sure why this wasn't communicated to the Clubs. Probably because there weren't any meetings for the last few months until last Monday. ;) Shame I couldn't make it on Monday night, I was certainly intending to get there. Unfortunately I've was laid up with man-flu... :? :roll:

Assoc training dates for the Championships will be displayed on the website once the season kicks off. We should confirm our preferred training venue by then. We have another Championships meeting in 3wks time. I can tell you that it is my intention to schedule training sessions 8wks prior to the Carnival (so early November). ALL players are WELCOME! Mick Johns will be updating the website accordingly.

I can also confirm that the touring party will consist of 13 players, 1 Manager and 1 Coach. Ian Amey will be attending in his capacity as ACCA Secretary, with his costs to be shared by ALL 6 competing teams, as per the ACCA constitution. The Manager (OB) and Ian will be heading over via vehical to Melbourne, whilst I have the unenvious task of facilitating the successful arrival of the 13 players from Adelaide to Melbourne.. :lol:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby FitzroyCC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:44 pm

Goat Herder wrote:
FitzroyCC wrote:Never said that at all, people should listen properly.

I asked the question has a coach/manager and what ever is needed been put in place for next season for all rep sides, because that is after all what we were talking about and was told yes, unless the new committee decides otherwise after the AGM.

Surely the clubs should know who is running the association team and what positions still need to be filled if any.

I also asked if all training dates and venues can be put on Association website with plenty of notice for all both seniors and U/21's because I am pretty sure that didn't happen last year.


While we are at it, SAMCA has said next season the U/21's will be knock out.


Thanks for clarifying mate. ;)

Several meetings were held over the last month and a half or thereabouts regarding the positions and agreed upon by the Exec. I'm not sure why this wasn't communicated to the Clubs. Probably because there weren't any meetings for the last few months until last Monday. ;) Shame I couldn't make it on Monday night, I was certainly intending to get there. Unfortunately I've was laid up with man-flu... :? :roll:

Assoc training dates for the Championships will be displayed on the website once the season kicks off. We should confirm our preferred training venue by then. We have another Championships meeting in 3wks time. I can tell you that it is my intention to schedule training sessions 8wks prior to the Carnival (so early November). ALL players are WELCOME! Mick Johns will be updating the website accordingly.


Well that is good to hear, I just thought the clubs would be informed that is all, if they want us to promote it and send our players out you would like to know what is going on.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:46 pm

What's wrong with just having bonus points for scoring runs within certain number of overs.

PDCA you get 1 bonus pt for making the runs with 10 overs to spare and 2 bonus pts for making the runs with 20 overs to spare.

Bonus pts for wickets in hand I can't see working..
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:49 pm

FitzroyCC wrote:To be fair Phantom, one club has proposed the idea which is fair enough. Now it's up to the clubs to decide if it has merit.

Regarding the amount of cricket we play, I think most from our club would like to play more cricket, it's hard enough to recruit players now, you start playing less cricket it will be even harder.

If you don't want more cricket, just don't play all the games, simple really.

I thought the meeting was pretty good, one club returning, another couple which might have an extra side, should make up for the 3 clubs that have folded.

Yeah fair enough.

I'm with you, I think if people don't want more cricket then dont play all the games! I'm lost to why people wouldn't want more cricket though, why would you take up the sport if you didn't want to play :?

Also with that, I know several players last season who batted lower order and from the set up of the comp some went a couple of months before getting the chance to have a bat, surely that would put people off more than scheduling more games.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:51 pm

Goat Herder wrote:With additional commitment required from players vying for spots in the preparation for this years National Championships, the last thing we want to do is over-saturate the calendar with cricket

You're talking about a dozen players, and a competition that ends around the halfway point of the season.. hardly saturating the calender...
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Goat Herder » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:04 pm

FitzroyCC wrote:Well that is good to hear, I just thought the clubs would be informed that is all, if they want us to promote it and send our players out you would like to know what is going on.


Absolutely mate! It's crucial to us sending the best side we possibly can to represent us.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Goat Herder » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:14 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Goat Herder wrote:With additional commitment required from players vying for spots in the preparation for this years National Championships, the last thing we want to do is over-saturate the calendar with cricket

You're talking about a dozen players, and a competition that ends around the halfway point of the season.. hardly saturating the calender...


You seriously think only a dozen blokes will bother rocking up to the first training?? :shock: :roll: :lol: Not to mention any pre-Carnival matches that are officially or unofficially scheduled. You're obviously a bit out of touch with the rep' stuff, lingering down in the deep dark recesses or the middle grades of PDCA ol' chum. ;) :lol:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby FitzroyCC » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:03 pm

Goat Herder wrote:
FitzroyCC wrote:Well that is good to hear, I just thought the clubs would be informed that is all, if they want us to promote it and send our players out you would like to know what is going on.


Absolutely mate! It's crucial to us sending the best side we possibly can to represent us.


Not only that, but it is important we continue to do well in the SAMCA Cup games as well, otherwise who will want to go to C&CCA.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby fox » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:04 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Let me get this straight..

So you lot support a Sunday T20 comp but are opposed to Sat/Sun finals? :?
You don't support increase number of matches during the season but support a T20 comp on a Sunday being installed? :?

You're a confused bunch aren't ya!


Not at all, you've just got your big stirring spoon out as usual.

If you read my original post I suggested a T20 comp on Saturdays over a few weeks before the start of the season, not in parallel. I also said that my team would be unlikely to enter a team for a Sunday T20 comp because we wouldn't get the numbers, although I support the association trying stuff.

I never said anything about Saturday/Sunday finals.

But don't let the facts get in the way Phantom, carry on.

I'm with you, I think if people don't want more cricket then dont play all the games! I'm lost to why people wouldn't want more cricket though, why would you take up the sport if you didn't want to play


I can understand why people want to play more cricket and if they have the capacity in their life then thats great for them.
But you are missing the point. We want to play cricket but other commitments in our lives limit the amount we can play. The current number of days in the regular season suits many players at our club, although most will already miss some games on account of other commitments.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby fox » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:10 pm

simmo wrote:Just out of curiosity, which teams/ clubs have folded or are coming back.

On the bonus points for wickets remaining in one dayers. i think it is a good idea for if we were to return to the 7/3 format. a couple of years back we played vistas in a one dayer and got smashed. it was something along the lines of we got bowled out for 50 and they made the runs with 9 wickets left. after such a comprehensive win they ended up getting the least amount of points for a win that weekend because we didnt make many runs. and in terms of teams not going hell for leather trying to make quick runs. should we not be trying to encourage batsmen to value their wickets.


I completely agree that batsmen should value their wicket however I disagree that this bonus point system does anything to help. The batsmen (top & middle order) would surely try to win the game first and foremost batting as the situation demands. I can only really see the bonus points for wickets in hand having an influence when when a run chase becomes very difficult. At that point the possibility of bonus points means the chasing team has to consider when to shut up shop.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:12 pm

fox my dear friend, my post has nothing to do with what you said ;)
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