SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby moses » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:35 pm

Ted wrote:Sounds like Raf is staking his claim for a spot in the carnival side ;)


and how many 40 year olds is this carnival side gonna have?!
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby the kraft » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:05 pm

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carey wrote:NEK Knights B grade won after the opposition decarled there first innings at 8/180. :shock:

I wouldnt of thought that a side declaring wouldve have lost to many times? Although declaring 8 down for 180 raise's some questions in its self.......



Ease up carey, never heard of strategy?? one which either makes you look like a genius or a goose, having got 2 late wickets last week it looked a brilliant move and nearly came off if not for a gutsy last stand!! Not arrogance, just another day playing under steve vines!!


Undoubtably arrogance!!! Probably thought they could role nek for under 100.
Couldnt be prouder of the lads. Maybe if u had 300 on the board u would put the
Opposition in for a few overs at the end of the day anything less is wreckless!!


Going on with this, didn't your A Grade send in Para Vista to bat in the semi final last year after winning the toss only to have 280 belted against them? That would be the epitome of 'arrogance' to take such a risk in a Semi Final?? Think I'd rather get my wires crossed in Round 3 then in the big games!!
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby the kraft » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:05 pm

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Of course it's para vista so it's arrogance, its the Steve vines way, had a crack to try and win a game, didn't come off, accepted it and moved on!!

On a side note, Auto, I like you and your non bias opinion but fitzroy cricket club, bunch of sooks, the world always owes them!! All because of this not allowing gigs a runner, rules are rules, if your club cares to listen the boys voted and didn't care if he had a runner but ultimately the decision should be bobs and he said no!! But this isn't good enough apperently, we can have an agreement so that he was allowed but my question is if we allow it now, where does it end? Come finals are we going to have captains agreements when premierships are on the line??


Wasn't there yesterday, dont know what happened, only whats been said on here and elsewhere. As for bunch of sooks and the world owes us thats just rubbish, pull your heads in krafty.



Auto water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned, wasn't there either but from the way the club is carrying on about it, claiming bad sportsmanship, plain sooking!!

Had it been allowed, If the tables were turned in a big game such as a SF or GF, and Fitzroy is rolled for say 120 and Jon Smith or Tim Hodson, clearly PV's 2 best bat's, have a injury that requires a runner, is your captain really going to sit there and say sure we will let you when a premiership could be on the line?

Without being there I believe this was dealt with to the best understanding of the umpire as possible, bend the rules once, where does it end??
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby auto » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:12 pm

From my understanding the umpire got it wrong, nothing to do with bending the rules. Lets play on and discuss something worthy of the great minds that peruse this forum. Keep on trucking kraftys.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby the kraft » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:18 pm

auto wrote:From my understanding the umpire got it wrong, nothing to do with bending the rules. Lets play on and discuss something worthy of the great minds that peruse this forum. Keep on trucking kraftys.



Fair play then Auto, if it's the umps fault, best not to be branding PV unsportsmanlike like for an umpires error!!

I did hear the boys missed you yesterday, could have made the day a tad more interesting, they were left to be excited by the spread that Mrs Sandford puts on for her lad!!
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby auto » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:22 pm

the kraft wrote:
auto wrote:From my understanding the umpire got it wrong, nothing to do with bending the rules. Lets play on and discuss something worthy of the great minds that peruse this forum. Keep on trucking kraftys.



Fair play then Auto, if it's the umps fault, best not to be branding PV unsportsmanlike like for an umpires error!!

I did hear the boys missed you yesterday, could have made the day a tad more interesting, they were left to be excited by the spread that Mrs Sandford puts on for her lad!!


Would have made the day a tad more good looking thats for sure
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Half Back Flanker » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:55 pm

Cougar wrote:Funny day of cricket at Enfield. Plenty of Runs, wickets, batting collapses and an ouright result achieved on the final ball of the match. Rose Park got to 1-91 chasing 96, before a collapse of 7-15 which stalled the run flow. Watson gave RP a handy lead, then Raf 'Harry Highpants' Zulimilus cleaned up Enfield with a 6 wicket hall giving him 10 for the match. The equation for outright was 62 runs off 5 overs which seemed unlikely, and even more so when only 3 runs came from Adam Gully's 1st over. However Andrew 'Gruby' Wehrman was in an aggressive mood and he single handely whittled it down to 18 required off Gully's final over. A massive 6 off the 1st ball helped proceedings and after hitting 17 off the first 5 deliveries, leaving Watson to bring up the winning run off the final ball.


Probably the best game of cricket that I've been involved in.......played in great spirits and was an exciting days play. Besides my body not coping too well today, I'm glad to have come out of retirement :lol: :lol:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Cougar » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:06 pm

Half Back Flanker wrote:
Cougar wrote:Funny day of cricket at Enfield. Plenty of Runs, wickets, batting collapses and an ouright result achieved on the final ball of the match. Rose Park got to 1-91 chasing 96, before a collapse of 7-15 which stalled the run flow. Watson gave RP a handy lead, then Raf 'Harry Highpants' Zulimilus cleaned up Enfield with a 6 wicket hall giving him 10 for the match. The equation for outright was 62 runs off 5 overs which seemed unlikely, and even more so when only 3 runs came from Adam Gully's 1st over. However Andrew 'Gruby' Wehrman was in an aggressive mood and he single handely whittled it down to 18 required off Gully's final over. A massive 6 off the 1st ball helped proceedings and after hitting 17 off the first 5 deliveries, leaving Watson to bring up the winning run off the final ball.


Probably the best game of cricket that I've been involved in.......played in great spirits and was an exciting days play. Besides my body not coping too well today, I'm glad to have come out of retirement :lol: :lol:


The 2 days play were of complete contrast. One was a snoozefest and the other had everything you can get out of game of cricket. And the old keeper for Rose Park wasn't too bad. 0 Byes? ;) :lol:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby bar20 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:22 am

Very unsportsmanlike behaviour from Para Vista on the weekend denying a Fitzroy batsman a runner when he'd clearly done a hamstring the week before during the game. Para Vista think we play International rules. Whats the go there?
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Goat Herder » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:36 am

bar20 wrote:Very unsportsmanlike behaviour from Para Vista on the weekend denying a Fitzroy batsman a runner when he'd clearly done a hamstring the week before during the game. Para Vista think we play International rules. Whats the go there?


You're a fair dinkum out & out spanker. :lol:

What part of "Bob said no" requires translation into simpleton terms for you to comprehend?? :roll:

The penguin got it wrong. End of story. Deal with it.

For SA Footy users who don't require dumming down of the English language, here's the law as per the Laws of Cricket 2010 ;

1.Substitutes and Runners
(a)If the umpires are satisfied that a nominated player has been injured or become ill since the nomination of the players, they shall allow that player to have
(i) a substitute acting for him in the field.
(ii) a runner when batting.
Any injury or illness that occurs at any time after the nomination of the players until the conclusion of the match shall be allowable, irrespective of whether play is in progress or not.
(b)The umpires shall have discretion to allow, for other wholly acceptable reasons, a substitute fielder or a runner to act for a nominated player, at the start of the match, or at any subsequent time.


So quite clearly, Gigs should have been granted a runner. The injury was sustained in the match well after the team sheets had been exchanged and with the match in progress. The call was made by the umpire, which would appear on the surface of things that he invoked part (b) - in which case, he got it VERY wrong and the conspiracy theory that South Australian Metropolitan Cricket is out to get Fitzroy and deny them sporting justice is well & truly alive. ;)

If anyone wants to translate into basic 'Lizbeff speak' the Laws of Cricket regarding runners to bar20, please do so of your own accord... :lol:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Goat Herder » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:41 am

Furthermore, the changes to the runner rule came into effect 12mths+ ago, but read as such ;

The International Cricket Council (ICC) board had ruled in June that changes would be implemented from 1 October (2011).

But the game's world governing body has stressed that the laws of cricket - which remain administered by the Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) - have not changed, merely the playing conditions for internationals, so runners will remain in domestic and recreational cricket.


Sounds like the umps need a refresher - I can't read anywhere where the opposition captain, or indeed his players, vote on whether a player can have a runner or not! :roll: ;)
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby mozzie » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:03 pm

What a game between Enfield and Rose park Sat, to see a team need 62 runs off 5 overs and then 18 off the final over and see it achieved was unbelievable. Some of the cleanest hitting i have seen in a long time. Great to watch.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:06 pm

mozzie wrote:What a game between Enfield and Rose park Sat, to see a team need 62 runs off 5 overs and then 18 off the final over and see it achieved was unbelievable. Some of the cleanest hitting i have seen in a long time. Great to watch.

Gully reckons that Wehrmann hit some of the biggest bombs he has ever seen at the ground - fair achievement, there have definately been some monsters hit on that ground!
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby auto » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:10 pm

Bar20 does not represent FCC or any of its subsidiaries.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby mozzie » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:11 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
mozzie wrote:What a game between Enfield and Rose park Sat, to see a team need 62 runs off 5 overs and then 18 off the final over and see it achieved was unbelievable. Some of the cleanest hitting i have seen in a long time. Great to watch.

Gully reckons that Wehrmann hit some of the biggest bombs he has ever seen at the ground - fair achievement, there have definately been some monsters hit on that ground!


Mate the one handed whip off his legs that went over fine legs head for six was amazing. Couple of the cow corner hits were huge as well.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:17 pm

mozzie wrote:Mate the one handed whip off his legs that went over fine legs head for six was amazing. Couple of the cow corner hits were huge as well.

Would've been amazing to watch! Is he the big key for the samca T20 coming up then for RP?
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby moses » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:19 pm

auto wrote:Bar20 does not represent FCC or any of its subsidiaries.

No he doesn't but do the remarks on your facebook page make interesting reading on the situation.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby mozzie » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:20 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
mozzie wrote:Mate the one handed whip off his legs that went over fine legs head for six was amazing. Couple of the cow corner hits were huge as well.

Would've been amazing to watch! Is he the big key for the samca T20 coming up then for RP?


He will be a vital part but not as a big key as what Rob OGorman and Geoff Riddle will be.
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby bored » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:23 pm

bar20 wrote:Very unsportsmanlike behaviour from Para Vista on the weekend denying a Fitzroy batsman a runner when he'd clearly done a hamstring the week before during the game. Para Vista think we play International rules. Whats the go there?

We got asked, left it to the umpire. He got it wrong, end of story. Please explain how Para Vista are at fault... Were you at the game? Did you take note of who made the decision and who brought it up with Giggsy before your captain came and spoke to the umpire?

Get your facts straight before you go mouthing off. :roll:
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Re: SA Churches & Community Cricket Association 2012/2013

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:24 pm

bored wrote:
bar20 wrote:Very unsportsmanlike behaviour from Para Vista on the weekend denying a Fitzroy batsman a runner when he'd clearly done a hamstring the week before during the game. Para Vista think we play International rules. Whats the go there?

We got asked, left it to the umpire. He got it wrong, end of story. Please explain how Para Vista are at fault... Were you at the game? Did you take note of who made the decision and who brought it up with Giggsy before your captain came and spoke to the umpire?

Get your facts straight before you go mouthing off. :roll:

I'm sure PV could've helped encourage the umpire to allow the runner.. ;) :D
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