Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bulldogs » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:50 pm

dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bloods08 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:54 pm

PUNTER wrote:A2 = Woodville Rech (One Day game as Goodwood Oval was too wet. Poor form on Goodwoods part)


:roll: So I guess its Goodwood's fault it rained for most of last week.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Tiger Couple » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:51 am

The game at Goodwood Oval is the only game I am aware of that did not get away Saturday.

I know that the Curator at Brighton worked until 7pm Thursday Night to give the wicket a roll as was there till the same if not later on Friday to ensure a decent wicket. From what I hear it was a very good wicket as well.

Maybe Goodwood is a council oval and if so maybe ATCA should look at not using grounds for A1-A3 finals that rely on council curators to do some hard work.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby ray borner » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:16 am

bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Ron Burgundy » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:19 am

PUNTER wrote:The game at Goodwood Oval is the only game I am aware of that did not get away Saturday.

I know that the Curator at Brighton worked until 7pm Thursday Night to give the wicket a roll as was there till the same if not later on Friday to ensure a decent wicket. From what I hear it was a very good wicket as well.

Maybe Goodwood is a council oval and if so maybe ATCA should look at not using grounds for A1-A3 finals that rely on council curators to do some hard work.


Goodwood oval is a council oval.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby interested observer » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:43 am

ray borner wrote:
bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


Did you have Helen Keller or Bob Ball or is this the same person!


Need to add that one of the openers copped 7 stitches with a ball exploding in to his face.
There were guys in both sides no doubt that need all limbs operating to work.
Who pays their wages if one breaks a wrist or hand?
To start was a complete joke.
To not even contemplate delaying the start was just an absolute display of arrogance by both umpires.

The result based on a coin toss should be irrelevant.
It's about player safety full stop..

Cannot help but believe it is money motivated.
Not starting at all on Saturday would have cost each umpire $80.00 for the weekend..

One of the umpires even tried to justify the decision by stating that very few wickets fell due to the pitch condition.
This again just showed how far off the mark they really were..

In the end it will just be taken as sour grapes and the Umpires involved will do it all again next year...
And you are right Ray....
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby azzaisbest » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:59 pm

bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


Just having a look at my cricket and you guys where at one stage 1/60 :shock: , surely if the pitch was that bad you would not have got off to such a good start and to be rolled for 70 odd surely has to be down to batting techniques
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby interested observer » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:12 pm

azzaisbest wrote:
bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


Just having a look at my cricket and you guys where at one stage 1/60 :shock: , surely if the pitch was that bad you would not have got off to such a good start and to be rolled for 70 odd surely has to be down to batting techniques



Penfield bowled extremely badly early on given the conditions.
Way too short or too full.
The moment they had someone that was able to land them short of a length scoring was almost impossible with balls rearing at batsmens throats.
You have been around long enough to know that in those type of conditions you are marking time..
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bulldogs » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:32 pm

interested observer wrote:
azzaisbest wrote:
bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


Just having a look at my cricket and you guys where at one stage 1/60 :shock: , surely if the pitch was that bad you would not have got off to such a good start and to be rolled for 70 odd surely has to be down to batting techniques



Penfield bowled extremely badly early on given the conditions.
Way too short or too full.
The moment they had someone that was able to land them short of a length scoring was almost impossible with balls rearing at batsmens throats.
You have been around long enough to know that in those type of conditions you are marking time..

correct Azza we did get to that score and to lose 8 4 8 was dissapointing and in no way have or will we use the pitch as a excuse for losing this. I was batting and it was hard work and dangerous, as IO said they bowled to short and we were able to let balls go and when they adjusted they bowled to full. In the end there was 14/95 runs lost in the first 3 and 1/2 hours, once the pitch settled a little it became so much easier. Game shouldnt of started
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Silky Johnson » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:33 pm

interested observer wrote:
azzaisbest wrote:
bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


Just having a look at my cricket and you guys where at one stage 1/60 :shock: , surely if the pitch was that bad you would not have got off to such a good start and to be rolled for 70 odd surely has to be down to batting techniques



Penfield bowled extremely badly early on given the conditions.
Way too short or too full.
The moment they had someone that was able to land them short of a length scoring was almost impossible with balls rearing at batsmens throats.
You have been around long enough to know that in those type of conditions you are marking time..



agree completely IO - The hardest thing to do on a wetty is to get yourself in if the bowlers are bowling well. Often the bowlers get very excited early on & bowl too short, which can make it easier to get set, but once they figure out the right length it is a bit of a lottery. I remember playing a game at Unley once when I got hit so many times that my lid was bent out of shape, but the easiest part was the first 10 overs when the bowlers kept bowling short! Once their skipper had a word in their ears it became a rather difficult (& painful!) day at the crease.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby azzaisbest » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:44 pm

interested observer wrote:
azzaisbest wrote:
bulldogs wrote:dead set ridiculous effort from the umpireS in the B2 match between Ingle Farm and Penfield. The pitch was soft and both teams were happy to come back Sunday and play a one day game, rather then play a game on a toss of the coin. But no the umpires wanted to play and they said its there decision. So we lost the toss great. The divots and chunks that were coming of the pitch after every ball was comical. JOKE


Just having a look at my cricket and you guys where at one stage 1/60 :shock: , surely if the pitch was that bad you would not have got off to such a good start and to be rolled for 70 odd surely has to be down to batting techniques



Penfield bowled extremely badly early on given the conditions.
Way too short or too full.
The moment they had someone that was able to land them short of a length scoring was almost impossible with balls rearing at batsmens throats.
You have been around long enough to know that in those type of conditions you are marking time..



Im not saying that batting on a deck with a bit of juice in it is easy, but to get to 1/60 you would have weathered the worst of the conditions and would have put some confidence into the batters to come , how did the mid to tail get out , fending balls at there throat or or trying to hit out??
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bulldogs » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:54 pm

a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:05 pm

bulldogs wrote:a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.

That was on the better oval aswell wasn't it mate, what sort of condition was #2 in.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bulldogs » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:13 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
bulldogs wrote:a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.

That was on the better oval aswell wasn't it mate, what sort of condition was #2 in.

230 for 20 for the two days. our LOE side was using this oval as a home ground, they came to the club and said they would prefer to play every game away. I had a look at it 8 weeks ago and what a disgrace i must say. not much fault of penfiel but more to the council
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Merki the God » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:15 pm

bulldogs wrote:a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:18 pm

bulldogs wrote:230 for 20 for the two days. our LOE side was using this oval as a home ground, they came to the club and said they would prefer to play every game away. I had a look at it 8 weeks ago and what a disgrace i must say. not much fault of penfiel but more to the council


I was under the impression it was PCC's resposibility to maintain it.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:19 pm

Merki the God wrote:
bulldogs wrote:a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.


You don't have this problem on the concrete lads! ;)


That's a bit contradictory from you Merki! Back from the sub-continent already hey.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Merki the God » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:21 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Merki the God wrote:
bulldogs wrote:a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.


You don't have this problem on the concrete lads! ;)


That's a bit contradictory from you Merki! Back from the sub-continent already hey.


Well we did lose to India!! ;)
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby OKC! » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:27 pm

Merki the God wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Merki the God wrote:
bulldogs wrote:a mixture i would say. the wickets was soft even after a hour. when you see chunks being removed the pitch upon the ball landing 2 hrs after the start of play well that should tell you something. some of the dismissals mine included were caused from short balls that you were in position to play but due to the softness of the pitch the ball just didnt come on and you had played the shot 6 times. yes you may say dont play the shot but hang on its a GF we had Sunday to come back to, why play on the toss of a coin. All being even it would of been a great game.


You don't have this problem on the concrete lads! ;)


That's a bit contradictory from you Merki! Back from the sub-continent already hey.


Well we did lose to India!! ;)


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:26 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
bulldogs wrote:230 for 20 for the two days. our LOE side was using this oval as a home ground, they came to the club and said they would prefer to play every game away. I had a look at it 8 weeks ago and what a disgrace i must say. not much fault of penfiel but more to the council


I was under the impression it was PCC's resposibility to maintain it.

Yes, it is Penfields responsibility to prepare a wicket each week, but there is only so much you can do with the centre square the way it is. It's sad that Playford Council take money off cricket clubs and offer that sort of rubbish at Argana Park No 2
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