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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:29 pm

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Lightning McQueen wrote:Apart for OTH, those other clubs that forfeited were ER's F Grade, PG's E Grade along with NP's and Craigmore's D Grade. Not great but you're gonna get that from here until Christmas.

Hello echo :lol:

The Bedge wrote:Nah not sure I agree so much - you're looking at their 4th, 5th, 6th sides.. they're still very strong.


Ha, I had that sitting there for a while in between working
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:32 pm

Armchair expert wrote:How do we rejuvenate community cricket?

I filled in on the weekend and played against a team with 9 players who absolutely flogged us


Free piss and cheerleaders wearing only body paint might solve the problem.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:12 pm

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Armchair expert wrote:How do we rejuvenate community cricket?

I filled in on the weekend and played against a team with 9 players who absolutely flogged us


Free piss and cheerleaders wearing only body paint might solve the problem.

Well I mean it couldn't hurt.. :lol:
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:43 pm

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Lightning McQueen wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:How do we rejuvenate community cricket?

I filled in on the weekend and played against a team with 9 players who absolutely flogged us


Free piss and cheerleaders wearing only body paint might solve the problem.

Well I mean it couldn't hurt.. :lol:

gotta try something.
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Re: PDCA

Postby moriachi » Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:35 am

One thing I've noticed this season, in the 3 games I've played is the generosity of the umpires with lbw decisions. Feel like we've had a few where there's barely an appeal and they're given out.

My early take on L04 is a Dublin v Westies GF. So far the ladder points that way too.

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Re: PDCA

Postby moriachi » Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:35 am

One thing I've noticed this season, in the 3 games I've played is the generosity of the umpires with lbw decisions. Feel like we've had a few where there's barely an appeal and they're given out.

My early take on L04 is a Dublin v Westies GF. So far the ladder points that way too.

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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:59 am

Piss off mate, if you don't have your mob - the only A grade side in the div - in the mix you're kidding yourself and playing with your dick.

Fitzroy vs SWest GF
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Re: PDCA

Postby Observer55 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:09 am

I’ll say it till I am blue in the face, get rid of 2 Day cricket. Become the best Limited overs competition out side of Grade Cricket.

Help clubs get FrogBox set up and stream all A Grade matches.

Get Sponsors and incentivise winning Grade 1 and 2 Premierships.

Stop charging clubs per team registration and charge an affiliation fee. Clubs should be rewarded for increasing participation numbers not hindered. A club with 5 or 6 teams forks out $1250-$1500 a club with 2 teams pay $500, charge a $1500 affiliation fee and encourage clubs to increase their participation numbers.

Encourage LO1 and LO2 clubs to wear colours and utilise the FrogBox highlights to package up weekly packages for social media.

Get serious with the rules and time restrictions, 40 Over matches first innings to be completed within 2 hours and 15 mins plus a 15 min drink break. Start at 13:00, overs to be completed by 15:30, if you have only bowled 36 overs at 15:30 you face 36 overs in response but still complete the 40. This will see more spinners bowling and greater urgency in the field. Not half cocked rules where it’s now a 37 over game because it is.

LO1’s 45 overs, LO2-LO4 40 overs, LO5-LO7/8 35 Overs.

Unfortunately the biggest detriment to summer sport is the time away from families, if you can get the girls to the cricket and enjoying their days, the lads will play. Need to encourage clubs social calendars and promote a family friendly environment. Which I believe the above would. It is very hard to structure a social calendar when fixtures are only released the week prior to round 1, but I also understand how and why this is the way it is.
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Re: PDCA

Postby moriachi » Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:33 am

The Bedge wrote:Piss off mate, if you don't have your mob - the only A grade side in the div - in the mix you're kidding yourself and playing with your dick.

Fitzroy vs SWest GF
Haha. The 'A' grade side that was the clubs D Grade side just over 12 months ago. Having said that I think we are in that 3rd to 5th bracket but yeah early days.

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Re: PDCA

Postby moriachi » Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:33 am

The Bedge wrote:Piss off mate, if you don't have your mob - the only A grade side in the div - in the mix you're kidding yourself and playing with your dick.

Fitzroy vs SWest GF
Haha. The 'A' grade side that was the clubs D Grade side just over 12 months ago. Having said that I think we are in that 3rd to 5th bracket but yeah early days.

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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:33 pm

Observer55 wrote:Stop charging clubs per team registration and charge an affiliation fee. Clubs should be rewarded for increasing participation numbers not hindered. A club with 5 or 6 teams forks out $1250-$1500 a club with 2 teams pay $500, charge a $1500 affiliation fee and encourage clubs to increase their participation numbers.

Don't mind this.. maybe not $1,500 per club, but the idea of a set affiliation fee is good and easier to break down a cost per player.. it would also proactively encourage increasing numbers because it would essentially be more back into the club funds.

Observer55 wrote:Get serious with the rules and time restrictions, 40 Over matches first innings to be completed within 2 hours and 15 mins plus a 15 min drink break. Start at 13:00, overs to be completed by 15:30, if you have only bowled 36 overs at 15:30 you face 36 overs in response but still complete the 40. This will see more spinners bowling and greater urgency in the field. Not half cocked rules where it’s now a 37 over game because it is.
Yes!! Absolutely.

Observer55 wrote:LO1’s 45 overs, LO2-LO4 40 overs, LO5-LO7/8 35 Overs.
I would support this - this year running around in LO6 with our U14 kids, it's proving to be a very long day playing 40 overs in the morning then 80 overs in the afternoon.. add in dropping kids home etc post game, aside from being gassed i'm generally not done until 7:30pm - would be nice to finish up a little earlier and enjoy a brewski at the club.
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Re: PDCA

Postby Observer55 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:09 pm

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Observer55 wrote:Stop charging clubs per team registration and charge an affiliation fee. Clubs should be rewarded for increasing participation numbers not hindered. A club with 5 or 6 teams forks out $1250-$1500 a club with 2 teams pay $500, charge a $1500 affiliation fee and encourage clubs to increase their participation numbers.

Don't mind this.. maybe not $1,500 per club, but the idea of a set affiliation fee is good and easier to break down a cost per player.. it would also proactively encourage increasing numbers because it would essentially be more back into the club funds.

Observer55 wrote:Get serious with the rules and time restrictions, 40 Over matches first innings to be completed within 2 hours and 15 mins plus a 15 min drink break. Start at 13:00, overs to be completed by 15:30, if you have only bowled 36 overs at 15:30 you face 36 overs in response but still complete the 40. This will see more spinners bowling and greater urgency in the field. Not half cocked rules where it’s now a 37 over game because it is.
Yes!! Absolutely.

Observer55 wrote:LO1’s 45 overs, LO2-LO4 40 overs, LO5-LO7/8 35 Overs.
I would support this - this year running around in LO6 with our U14 kids, it's proving to be a very long day playing 40 overs in the morning then 80 overs in the afternoon.. add in dropping kids home etc post game, aside from being gassed i'm generally not done until 7:30pm - would be nice to finish up a little earlier and enjoy a brewski at the club.


Yeah, look I pulled $1500 as a number but if you have 2 teams and only 22 registered it’s only $68 a player, you would think most clubs would have 26-28 registered for 2 teams so that’s closer to $50 ($53) understand some clubs will have life members not paying fees and the like, but that’s where your sponsorships cover the difference.

If there are 26 clubs affiliated that would be just shy of $40,000, the association pay out $5,000 to the club of the year, $3500 to the spirit of cricket winner, $5,000 to Grade 1 Minor premier, $5000 to Grade 1 Premier, $3500 to Grade 1 Runner up, $3500 to Grade 2 Minor Premier, $3500 to Grade 2 Premier, $2500 to Grade 2 Runner up. Run a T20 comp and the winner take $2000, runner up takes $1500. That still leaves $5000 profit to the association.

This incentive may just get a few more clubs striving to better themselves, but understand there then may be the allure of clubs staying in Div 2 to win ‘easy’ money. Would be good to stipulate in the bylaws or Constitution minor Premier and Premier automatically promoted for the following season, where Minor Premier and Premier is the same club the Oppsing side in the Grand Final is promoted, where finals are impacted by weather Second on the ladder will be promoted. Where a club can not or refuses promotion, they will then demote themselves a solitary grade for the following season.

Have the T20 comp geographically based rather than Division based, build more interaction between more clubs and keep this a little fresh rather than playing the same teams continuously. I can’t imagine ATCO, North Pines or Craigmore love rocking up each week for the past 5 years playing the same teams, getting the same results.

Keep evolving the association, move with the times, look at what the numbers are telling us and give something a crack. If it doesn’t work, revert back to the current formula.
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Re: PDCA

Postby carey » Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:48 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:How do we rejuvenate community cricket?

I filled in on the weekend and played against a team with 9 players who absolutely flogged us


Free piss and cheerleaders wearing only body paint might solve the problem.



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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:51 am

GRADE 1
ATCO vs AV
ER vs Craigmore
NP vs Hazara
SW vs Virginia
GRADE 2
Craigmore vs AV
Smithfield vs SW
ER vs SN

Meredith Over/Under: 89.5
Jenner vs Hewitt (runs)
Davies vs Lay (runs)
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:53 am

GRADE 1
AV - 1st inn
ER - 1st inn
Hazara - 1st inn
Virginia - 1st inn
GRADE 2
AV - 1st inn
SW - 1st inn
SN - 1st inn
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Re: PDCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:55 am

LO1 Round 5
Units vs Gardens
Vista vs Union
Pioneers vs Pines
NEK vs Dublin
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:02 pm

LO1 Round 5
Gardens
Union
Pines
Dublin
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Re: PDCA

Postby Observer55 » Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:19 pm

GRADE 1
AV
ER
Hazara
SW
GRADE 2
AV
Smithfield
SN

Meredith Over: 199.5
Jenner
Lay

LO1 Round 5
Gardens
Vista
Pioneers
Dublin
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:32 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:GRADE 1
ATCO vs AV
ER vs Craigmore
NP vs Hazara
SW vs Virginia
GRADE 2
Craigmore vs AV
Smithfield vs SW
ER vs SN

Meredith Over/Under: 89.5
Jenner vs Hewitt (runs)
Davies vs Lay (runs)


AV
ER
Hazara
SW

AV
SW
SN

Meredith Under
Jenner
Lay
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:33 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:LO1 Round 5
Units vs Gardens
Vista vs Union
Pioneers vs Pines
NEK vs Dublin


Units
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Pioneers
Dublin
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