Grade Cricket

[heater31]

What is happening now is that some clubs with pop gun attacks who used to prosper can no longer do so. It's a very good thing for cricket.

Clubs are being forced to uncover bowlers with genuine weapons - height, speed, skills other than just accuracy. Also spinners who genuinely give the ball a rip. I think if we look at the % of overs bowled by wrist spinners this season and compared it to 4 years ago it would have increased.

In turn that means to make runs batters will need to be able to handle facing pace and be adept at playing spin. Skills that actually translate to first class level. Batting time vs medium pacers does not translate at all.

Teams need to take wickets in the first session when the ball is new which is exactly as it should be.

The turf ball doesn't go softer quicker. It doesn't lose shape more. It's a better quality ball.

It's a good thing that bowlers who bowl at 115km/hr can no longer be successful in A Grade cricket. That was the biggest blight on our game previously. When cricketers from Sydney and Melbourne grade cricket came here it was always the first observation they made. No pace, lots of boring medium pacers compared to back home.

So Jamie Panelli, Kensingtons leading wicket taker ever was a blight on the game?

He could swing the ball.....not many with his pace had the control he did!

[helicopterking]

What is happening now is that some clubs with pop gun attacks who used to prosper can no longer do so. It's a very good thing for cricket.

Clubs are being forced to uncover bowlers with genuine weapons - height, speed, skills other than just accuracy. Also spinners who genuinely give the ball a rip. I think if we look at the % of overs bowled by wrist spinners this season and compared it to 4 years ago it would have increased.

In turn that means to make runs batters will need to be able to handle facing pace and be adept at playing spin. Skills that actually translate to first class level. Batting time vs medium pacers does not translate at all.

Teams need to take wickets in the first session when the ball is new which is exactly as it should be.

The turf ball doesn't go softer quicker. It doesn't lose shape more. It's a better quality ball.

It's a good thing that bowlers who bowl at 115km/hr can no longer be successful in A Grade cricket. That was the biggest blight on our game previously. When cricketers from Sydney and Melbourne grade cricket came here it was always the first observation they made. No pace, lots of boring medium pacers compared to back home.

So Jamie Panelli, Kensingtons leading wicket taker ever was a blight on the game?

He could swing the ball.....not many with his pace had the control he did!

Unbelievable bowler. But didn't use height or speed, bowled about 115km, but used cricket nous to totally undo batsmen who couldn't handle the pressure he built.

[heater31]

What is happening now is that some clubs with pop gun attacks who used to prosper can no longer do so. It's a very good thing for cricket.

Clubs are being forced to uncover bowlers with genuine weapons - height, speed, skills other than just accuracy. Also spinners who genuinely give the ball a rip. I think if we look at the % of overs bowled by wrist spinners this season and compared it to 4 years ago it would have increased.

In turn that means to make runs batters will need to be able to handle facing pace and be adept at playing spin. Skills that actually translate to first class level. Batting time vs medium pacers does not translate at all.

Teams need to take wickets in the first session when the ball is new which is exactly as it should be.

The turf ball doesn't go softer quicker. It doesn't lose shape more. It's a better quality ball.

It's a good thing that bowlers who bowl at 115km/hr can no longer be successful in A Grade cricket. That was the biggest blight on our game previously. When cricketers from Sydney and Melbourne grade cricket came here it was always the first observation they made. No pace, lots of boring medium pacers compared to back home.

So Jamie Panelli, Kensingtons leading wicket taker ever was a blight on the game?

He could swing the ball.....not many with his pace had the control he did!

Unbelievable bowler. But didn't use height or speed, bowled about 115km, but used cricket nous to totally undo batsmen who couldn't handle the pressure he built.

The classic out swinger, in swinger routine works wonders....

[Tony Clifton]

What is happening now is that some clubs with pop gun attacks who used to prosper can no longer do so. It's a very good thing for cricket.

Clubs are being forced to uncover bowlers with genuine weapons - height, speed, skills other than just accuracy. Also spinners who genuinely give the ball a rip. I think if we look at the % of overs bowled by wrist spinners this season and compared it to 4 years ago it would have increased.

In turn that means to make runs batters will need to be able to handle facing pace and be adept at playing spin. Skills that actually translate to first class level. Batting time vs medium pacers does not translate at all.

Teams need to take wickets in the first session when the ball is new which is exactly as it should be.

The turf ball doesn't go softer quicker. It doesn't lose shape more. It's a better quality ball.

It's a good thing that bowlers who bowl at 115km/hr can no longer be successful in A Grade cricket. That was the biggest blight on our game previously. When cricketers from Sydney and Melbourne grade cricket came here it was always the first observation they made. No pace, lots of boring medium pacers compared to back home.

So Jamie Panelli, Kensingtons leading wicket taker ever was a blight on the game?

I'm probably being a bit unkind to bowlers like Panelli or even Valente who have genuine skills and significant weapons, other than just bowling dot balls with a ring field.

Panelli could swing the ball both ways. Very skillful. Was still successful even at the end of his career on 'roads.' And using the marshmallow soft turf ball that goes out of shape when you open the box apparently (though it can handle 80 overs in Shield cricket... I guess Adelaide grade pitches are harder than first class pitches and the batters hit harder).

The best bowlers can still get wickets. The mediocre trundlers can't anymore and that's how it should be.

The constant low scores grade cricket was getting previously was not due to the incredible pace batteries going around.

[C Horse]

Can understand how better prepared wickets can help with the run scoring, but how is the upgraded ball better for the batsman? Not saying it's not, I wouldn't know, just interested why this ball is supposedly more batsman friendly?

Have they also cracked down on ball tampering after incident last season?

The turf ball goes softer much quicker. Has less of a seam as mentioned earlier, which means it doesn't move as much off the deck or in the air. They tend to lose their shape much quicker as well and go square. They also stop swinging after 10 overs unless you get a pitch that isn't very abrasive, but with decks being mowed and rolled to within an inch of their lives you seldom get a ball swinging conventional in the 20th over.

While ball tampering is obviously not the right thing to do, teams need to find a way to get the ball moving off the straight ASAP, otherwise blokes at 5-9 can all make hundreds without a lot to deal with.

There is a clear difference in the styles of cricket between teams because of this as well I think. Sturt have some good swing bowlers who go missing after the first session because spin from both ends is the only option. Northerns haven't got the cattle to blast a side out so they ring up sides and play boring cricket on a slow wicket. Then you get Glenelg who have someone like Jack Pudney who will get the ball reversing at 130km/h and bowl sides out just after tea. That would't happen with a rego ball, every side would take wickets consistently UNLESS batsmen actually do some hard work and knuckle down for a couple hours.

Correct 100% everything you have said. The lack of durability of the turf ball is quite surprising.

[Tony Clifton]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

[backoftheroom]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

Alex Reardon dropped 5 catches on the weekend.

[Tony Clifton]

Really? Well there you go. Has been great the times I've seen him.

[The Dark Knight]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

Jordy (Thomas) has improved out of sight in the last 3 seasons. His bowling, initially has sorta come from nowhere, he was predominantly at batsman in juniors that only bowled a bit. My brother and I and our teammates all know him so we always keep an eye on him. Great to see him get a five wicket haul on the weekend, he continues to impress.

[Booney]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

Jordy (Thomas) has improved out of sight in the last 3 seasons. His bowling, initially has sorta come from nowhere, he was predominantly at batsman in juniors that only bowled a bit. My brother and I and our teammates all know him so we always keep an eye on him. Great to see him get a five wicket haul on the weekend, he continues to impress.

Found myself near Portland on Saturday and stopped and ate some lunch and watched for 40 minutes or so. Saw him trap McDowell LB and then upped the tempo a bit, he's got some decent wheels and a solid action, looks like a future prospect.

[Lightning McQueen]

Found myself near Portland on Saturday and stopped and ate some lunch and watched for 40 minutes or so. Saw him trap McDowell LB and then upped the tempo a bit, he's got some decent wheels and a solid action, looks like a future prospect.

If you're in that neck of the woods on Sunday there is a T20 double header on against West Torrens.
The A grade womens kicks off at 10:30am and then the A grade mens starts at 2pm.

On a side note, my girl scored her first A Grade runs on Sunday, going in at 6 for bugger all, she managed 18 not out off 31 balls against a strong Jets attack in difficult conditions.

[Tony Clifton]

On a side note, my girl scored her first A Grade runs on Sunday, going in at 6 for bugger all, she managed 18 not out off 31 balls against a strong Jets attack in difficult conditions.

Great to hear!

There's no substitute for a few runs and wickets, especially when the team is under the pump. Makes a player feel that they belong and are up to the level. Earns the respect of their new team mates.

T20 double header is a good idea too. Helps bring the men's and women's sides of the club together

[Booney]

Found myself near Portland on Saturday and stopped and ate some lunch and watched for 40 minutes or so. Saw him trap McDowell LB and then upped the tempo a bit, he's got some decent wheels and a solid action, looks like a future prospect.

If you're in that neck of the woods on Sunday there is a T20 double header on against West Torrens.
The A grade womens kicks off at 10:30am and then the A grade mens starts at 2pm.

On a side note, my girl scored her first A Grade runs on Sunday, going in at 6 for bugger all, she managed 18 not out off 31 balls against a strong Jets attack in difficult conditions.

Living in that neck of the woods I just might find my way there mate.

[Lloyd Bridges]

What are the general standard of sightscreens like in grade cricket, I popped in to have a look at a B grade game (TTG v Adelaide) last Saturday at T T Gullys ground and could not believe what I saw, very shabby, maybe SACA should be helping to achieve an overall general standard. The clubrooms are nice though!

[Tony Clifton]

What are the general standard of sightscreens like in grade cricket, I popped in to have a look at a B grade game (TTG v Adelaide) last Saturday at T T Gullys ground and could not believe what I saw, very shabby, maybe SACA should be helping to achieve an overall general standard. The clubrooms are nice though!

Mixed bag probably the kindest description

[Aerie]

What are the general standard of sightscreens like in grade cricket, I popped in to have a look at a B grade game (TTG v Adelaide) last Saturday at T T Gullys ground and could not believe what I saw, very shabby, maybe SACA should be helping to achieve an overall general standard. The clubrooms are nice though!

I think the ones at Henley are the old World Series ones from Footy Park. Money spent refurbishing them last season I believe.

[heater31]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

Alex Reardon dropped 5 catches on the weekend.

Yep worst performance from Reardo I've ever seen.

[Tony Clifton]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

Alex Reardon dropped 5 catches on the weekend.

Yep worst performance from Reardo I've ever seen.

Can you get Sam Darling back from Uni?

[heater31]

Great to see some teenagers/early 20 something players having an impact on the competition already.

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.

Alex Reardon dropped 5 catches on the weekend.

Yep worst performance from Reardo I've ever seen.

Can you get Sam Darling back from Uni?

Not sure the performance would be any better. I see on Sunday he held onto 1 v Woodville hopefully gets back on track now.

[Eagles2014]

Jordan Thomas from Port - always been handy but stepping up now. Played some PL I think. Kyle Giniotis has some real ability with the bat. Alex Reardon very clean with the gloves. Tom O'Connell and Lloyd Pope two good leggies. Ben Pengelley looks a good batsman. Jake Winter taking the competition by storm. Henry Dall looks a solid opening batsman. Daniel Drew looking good with bat and ball. Spencer Johnson back fully fit.[/quote]

Alex Reardon dropped 5 catches on the weekend.[/quote]
Yep worst performance from Reardo I've ever seen.[/quote]
Can you get Sam Darling back from Uni?[/quote]
Not sure the performance would be any better. I see on Sunday he held onto 1 v Woodville hopefully gets back on track now.[/quote]

Darling is a terrible keeper. Two years ago against us he dropped some absolute sitters, got to the stage where even his team mates, like Raph in slips, did not even react, like it was just the norm!

Rate Reardon very highly though, top young lad too. Heard the dropped catches cost them the game vs TTG, being nine down at Stumps would suggest that, so hopefully his confidence is not shot (after this game against us anyway!).