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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:29 pm

Sonofbrowny25 wrote:
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Sonofbrowny25 wrote:thoughts on COVID 19 and the impact it will have on teams etc? what do you think ATCA will do?

I have no doubt there will be players, umpires or scorers who will be unavailable this week because they have tested positive or are a close contact. Whether the numbers are significant enough to cancel games is a good question. What happens if someone trains tonight and tests positive Thursday? Don't all the others that attended training become close contacts? I haven't seen any official statements from ATCA, but I think they should issue something.


i saw they have added to the bylaws about it, just make all games from here on one dayers, play the t20 finals on saturdays and finish early. at least that way you wont need to worry about covid ruining games half way through

That only covers replacement players in two day games. What if half your team is in isolation this week and you can't field a full strength team?
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:46 pm

If you can't field a full strength team thats just bad luck. Same will apply to most clubs at some stage over the next three months.
No different to having a wedding on, blokes getting called in for work or having to drop the misso's cousin at the airport.

Expectation will be that blokes are pulled up from the lower grades and you fill the strongest side you can.

I'd image the odd LO5 or 6 game will end up getting called off, but other than that most teams should play most weeks.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Bluedemon » Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:51 pm

Trader wrote:If you can't field a full strength team thats just bad luck. Same will apply to most clubs at some stage over the next three months.
No different to having a wedding on, blokes getting called in for work or having to drop the misso's cousin at the airport.

Expectation will be that blokes are pulled up from the lower grades and you fill the strongest side you can.

I'd image the odd LO5 or 6 game will end up getting called off, but other than that most teams should play most weeks.


If a LO5 or 6 game got called off, I assume the points would be shared or would it be treated as a forfeit win
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:50 am

Bluedemon wrote:
Trader wrote:If you can't field a full strength team thats just bad luck. Same will apply to most clubs at some stage over the next three months.
No different to having a wedding on, blokes getting called in for work or having to drop the misso's cousin at the airport.

Expectation will be that blokes are pulled up from the lower grades and you fill the strongest side you can.

I'd image the odd LO5 or 6 game will end up getting called off, but other than that most teams should play most weeks.


If a LO5 or 6 game got called off, I assume the points would be shared or would it be treated as a forfeit win


My own thoughts are it should be a forfeit, it's not that hard to find a couple of fill ins for a one dayer and clubs should be given the understanding that they are expected to find these fill ins.

However, I expect ATCA will take a softer approach and allow clubs to share the points.
I would hope there would need to be clear evidence of a substantial number of positive cases within a club before the draw is permitted, and it doesn't become a free-for-all where clubs are agreeing to split points constantly.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:20 am

Trader wrote:
Bluedemon wrote:
Trader wrote:If you can't field a full strength team thats just bad luck. Same will apply to most clubs at some stage over the next three months.
No different to having a wedding on, blokes getting called in for work or having to drop the misso's cousin at the airport.

Expectation will be that blokes are pulled up from the lower grades and you fill the strongest side you can.

I'd image the odd LO5 or 6 game will end up getting called off, but other than that most teams should play most weeks.


If a LO5 or 6 game got called off, I assume the points would be shared or would it be treated as a forfeit win


My own thoughts are it should be a forfeit, it's not that hard to find a couple of fill ins for a one dayer and clubs should be given the understanding that they are expected to find these fill ins.

However, I expect ATCA will take a softer approach and allow clubs to share the points.
I would hope there would need to be clear evidence of a substantial number of positive cases within a club before the draw is permitted, and it doesn't become a free-for-all where clubs are agreeing to split points constantly.

So, you agree that ATCA should state their position on this?
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Re: ATCA

Postby gatecrasher21 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:07 am

Sonofbrowny25 wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Sonofbrowny25 wrote:thoughts on COVID 19 and the impact it will have on teams etc? what do you think ATCA will do?

I have no doubt there will be players, umpires or scorers who will be unavailable this week because they have tested positive or are a close contact. Whether the numbers are significant enough to cancel games is a good question. What happens if someone trains tonight and tests positive Thursday? Don't all the others that attended training become close contacts? I haven't seen any official statements from ATCA, but I think they should issue something.


i saw they have added to the bylaws about it, just make all games from here on one dayers, play the t20 finals on saturdays and finish early. at least that way you wont need to worry about covid ruining games half way through


Love this idea.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:03 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:So, you agree that ATCA should state their position on this?


They have stated their position, games will be rescheduled and where a reschedule can't be achieved, points will be shared.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Bluedemon » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:08 pm

Trader wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:So, you agree that ATCA should state their position on this?


They have stated their position, games will be rescheduled and where a reschedule can't be achieved, points will be shared.


what day do you reschedule a LO game to? do they play a game on Saturday then catch up game the next day?
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Re: ATCA

Postby Under_Scrutiny » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:46 pm

gatecrasher21 wrote:
Sonofbrowny25 wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Sonofbrowny25 wrote:thoughts on COVID 19 and the impact it will have on teams etc? what do you think ATCA will do?

I have no doubt there will be players, umpires or scorers who will be unavailable this week because they have tested positive or are a close contact. Whether the numbers are significant enough to cancel games is a good question. What happens if someone trains tonight and tests positive Thursday? Don't all the others that attended training become close contacts? I haven't seen any official statements from ATCA, but I think they should issue something.


i saw they have added to the bylaws about it, just make all games from here on one dayers, play the t20 finals on saturdays and finish early. at least that way you wont need to worry about covid ruining games half way through


Love this idea.


Agree with it as well. 2 day cricket will prove a nightmare for clubs.
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Re: ATCA

Postby no_remorse28 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:53 pm

How are clubs fairing at the moment with covid, im hearing from a few it's becoming an issue
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:21 pm

Bluedemon wrote:
Trader wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:So, you agree that ATCA should state their position on this?


They have stated their position, games will be rescheduled and where a reschedule can't be achieved, points will be shared.


what day do you reschedule a LO game to? do they play a game on Saturday then catch up game the next day?


I'm only guessing but I assume this relates more to the 2-day comp where games unable to get away week 1 would be 'rescheduled' as a one-day fixture week 2. I heard this happened with Port Districts in C1 before Christmas so some precedent.
Doubt many, if any, LO games would be rescheduled, almost all of those to be called a draw I would think, although there could be the odd club that tries to get a catch up game in.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:24 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:How are clubs fairing at the moment with covid, im hearing from a few it's becoming an issue


Yeah a lot of clubs unhappy that they can't put their best sides on the park at the moment.
Those who can see the bigger picture understand its happening to almost every club and therefore just getting on with it.
Yes, we are weaker than normal this round, but we are assuming our opponents will be too.

My club hasn't resumed training yet, but one of the lower grade captains just told me they have 13 players on the unavailable list as a result of either being positive, or a close contact. Even still, he said we'd have an oversupply this week and there will be players missing out on a game.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:16 pm

Hey @tigerpie, Reynella v Grange showing as a draw. Please explain.
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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:39 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Hey @tigerpie, Reynella v Grange showing as a draw. Please explain.

Too wet.
Rained most of yesterday, and again this morning.
Haven't seen the sun in three days.
Covers went on last night but too late.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:21 pm

tigerpie wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Hey @tigerpie, Reynella v Grange showing as a draw. Please explain.

Too wet.
Rained most of yesterday, and again this morning.
Haven't seen the sun in three days.
Covers went on last night but too late.

Same fate at Para Hills and PAOC v Woodville South called off after 2 overs
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Re: ATCA

Postby Sonofbrowny25 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:26 am

interesting weekend of results.

TOS get a much needed win
Goodwood get another one after a slow start
Erranga belted 90 off the last 5 overs to hit 144 not out. SPOC get a win they really needed.

6- 12 are all very tight and will be interesting come the end of the season
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Re: ATCA

Postby Whydontya » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:20 am

Port districts full of good blokes. Played half an A2 side against a c grade team full of kids. Bullying the lower grades to get paid players some better stat lines it seems
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Re: ATCA

Postby the smokey » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:24 am

Whydontya wrote:Port districts all full of good blokes. Played half an A2 side against a c grade team full of kids. Bullying the lower grades to get paid players some better stat lines it seems


This doesn't sit well with me.... But if your from Ingle farm which I would presume, you blokes did the same last year when your A3 side had the bye due to Pembroke pulling out! Everything swings in round abouts.

And if your not from Ingle Farm, apologies but once again it all comes back one way or another.
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:34 am

the smokey wrote:
Whydontya wrote:Port districts all full of good blokes. Played half an A2 side against a c grade team full of kids. Bullying the lower grades to get paid players some better stat lines it seems


This doesn't sit well with me.... But if your from Ingle farm which I would presume, you blokes did the same last year when your A3 side had the bye due to Pembroke pulling out! Everything swings in round abouts.

And if your not from Ingle Farm, apologies but once again it all comes back one way or another.
Gaza played Port Districts in C1....which correct me if I'm wrong that is their 'A' grade!

But going through Districts line up their are a few names there playing well below their usual grade. Some might be even paid to play but hopefully they didn't take payment for this game
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Re: ATCA

Postby the smokey » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:38 am

heater31 wrote:
the smokey wrote:
Whydontya wrote:Port districts all full of good blokes. Played half an A2 side against a c grade team full of kids. Bullying the lower grades to get paid players some better stat lines it seems


This doesn't sit well with me.... But if your from Ingle farm which I would presume, you blokes did the same last year when your A3 side had the bye due to Pembroke pulling out! Everything swings in round abouts.

And if your not from Ingle Farm, apologies but once again it all comes back one way or another.
Gaza played Port Districts in C1....which correct me if I'm wrong that is their 'A' grade!

But going through Districts line up their are a few names there playing well below their usual grade. Some might be even paid to play but hopefully they didn't take payment for this game


They also played Ingle Farm in B2 - where Groeke and a few others played - looks like they spread their A2 players throughout the grades
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