Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

[tigerpie]

Its a joke.We at reynella could have played which would have meant we could have caught up on some valuable points as the northern teams are miles ahead of us.
Last game we got more rain down south than the northern or city based teams did and there was no chance of play. But northern teams got to play.

This game the rainfall was worse up north so we all get called off.
Ridiculous!!!!!!

Seems to me its certainly not a consistent wet weather rule.
The rule should be.....one off, ALL off.
Or supply us all with covers!!!!!

[no_remorse28]

Its a joke.We at reynella could have played which would have meant we could have caught up on some valuable points as the northern teams are miles ahead of us.
Last game we got more rain down south than the northern or city based teams did and there was no chance of play. But northern teams got to play.

This game the rainfall was worse up north so we all get called off.
Ridiculous!!!!!!

Seems to me its certainly not a consistent wet weather rule.
The rule should be.....one off, ALL off.
Or supply us all with covers!!!!!

I always thought that the areas covered by rain were considered, the fact it was scattered showers to me I thought meant they would go ahead as no one was really effected the same, we at Kilburn easily could of played, Our pitch and outfield was more then fine, As O said heard this was the same as some other sides as well, if the whole of north to south had of been hammered I could understand, but it just seemed a decision without a lot of thought into it, I could be wrong, but hey there is always next week

[tigerpie]

I believe 5 teams can be relegated in A2 this year to get the comp to 10 teams next year.
Therefore if some teams get away in unfavourable conditions, and others dont then straight away you are behind the pack by a game or even 2. Take Modbury for instance.They havent played a game at all yet so how the hell is it a fair rule. We've played 1 game so far.
The pressure is on therefore to play when we really shouldnt on an ordinary wicket. Lose the toss, get sent in and dismissed cheaply and lose and your season can be done very early.

[Jetters]

lots of whinging!

Cricket it effected by rain ..... hardly a new phenomenon, get over it.

Supply you with covers ... have a think about the costs involved!

[no_remorse28]

Its the fact that there seems to be a fair few who were not effected by the rain and could of gone ahead that is the issue, Covers arnt an issue if the pitch and ground are good enough to go

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Its the fact that there seems to be a fair few who were not effected by the rain and could of gone ahead that is the issue, Covers arnt an issue if the pitch and ground are good enough to go

David Heyzer would not have made that decision lightly. He would have been in contact with a number of clubs on the state of their pitch and would have made his decision based on this. At the end of the day it ends up fair for everyone. No one wins a game on the toss of a coin.

On the issue of covers. ATCA are looking at making covers compulsory for Grade 1 and are also looking at a grant to assist clubs manage the cost. In SACA A Grade it is compulsory to have covers, but it was interesting to note only one game got away on Saturday. They come at a significant cost and do not guarantee you a game of cricket.

[EldersUniSA]

We wouldn't have played, curator would of had a break down if we did. Was a shame turned out to be a great day.

[The Hound]

lots of whinging!

Cricket it effected by rain ..... hardly a new phenomenon, get over it.

Supply you with covers ... have a think about the costs involved!

Jetters - SACA are coming into a LOT of coin so the request for covers at grass roots level is valid

[The Hound]

Its the fact that there seems to be a fair few who were not effected by the rain and could of gone ahead that is the issue, Covers arnt an issue if the pitch and ground are good enough to go

David Heyzer would not have made that decision lightly. He would have been in contact with a number of clubs on the state of their pitch and would have made his decision based on this. At the end of the day it ends up fair for everyone. No one wins a game on the toss of a coin.

On the issue of covers. ATCA are looking at making covers compulsory for Grade 1 and are also looking at a grant to assist clubs manage the cost. In SACA A Grade it is compulsory to have covers, but it was interesting to note only one game got away on Saturday. They come at a significant cost and do not guarantee you a game of cricket.

Not sure he was in contact with to many teams south of the CBD.

[mickey]

You guys do know that David is on the road inspecting pitches from 1st light on a Saturday morning.

Personally I think the ATCA are too hesitant to call games off, too often playing on wet wickets with dodgy results dictated by the toss of a coin.

[Senor Moto Gadili]

You guys do know that David is on the road inspecting pitches from 1st light on a Saturday morning.

Personally I think the ATCA are too hesitant to call games off, too often playing on wet wickets with dodgy results dictated by the toss of a coin.

Yes, I do know that and I believe he does a great job in trying to make the best decision for all concerned. Obviously, he cannot get to every ground, so if clubs feel like they are not being consulted they can quite easily be pro-active by letting David know the state of their pitches on Saturday morning.

[tigerpie]

You guys do know that David is on the road inspecting pitches from 1st light on a Saturday morning.

Personally I think the ATCA are too hesitant to call games off, too often playing on wet wickets with dodgy results dictated by the toss of a coin.

Yes, I do know that and I believe he does a great job in trying to make the best decision for all concerned. Obviously, he cannot get to every ground, so if clubs feel like they are not being consulted they can quite easily be pro-active by letting David know the state of their pitches on Saturday morning.

Which we have done before and still some northern sides got away and we didnt.

2 things....firstly why arent umpires directed to go and have a look at their local grounds and report to david. secondly....how can he possibly get from hope valley to reynella and all grounds in between.
COVERS FOR ALL!!!!!!

[mickey]

If the clubs want covers so bad, then there is nothing stopping them from going and getting them now.. clubs can't want them too bad though.

[tigerpie]

i agree that atca take too long to call games off.
saca in conjunction with c.a. should provide covers at a subsidised rate.
its ok for the wealthy clubs to say get your own covers, i'd rather keep the money for training infrastructure needs.

[Senor Moto Gadili]

You guys do know that David is on the road inspecting pitches from 1st light on a Saturday morning.

Personally I think the ATCA are too hesitant to call games off, too often playing on wet wickets with dodgy results dictated by the toss of a coin.

Yes, I do know that and I believe he does a great job in trying to make the best decision for all concerned. Obviously, he cannot get to every ground, so if clubs feel like they are not being consulted they can quite easily be pro-active by letting David know the state of their pitches on Saturday morning.

Which we have done before and still some northern sides got away and we didnt.

2 things....firstly why arent umpires directed to go and have a look at their local grounds and report to david. secondly....how can he possibly get from hope valley to reynella and all grounds in between.
COVERS FOR ALL!!!!!!

He would have visited some grounds and made calls to contacts to establish the state of others. Obviously most grounds were not suitable which is why they called off all games at 9.00am. COVERS FOR ALL is not necessarily the answer. Only 1 A Grade District game got away on Saturday despite all clubs having covers.

[Bold Strategy]

how fair is it to have 1 match played per division and the team that wins the toss will most likely get an outright? im sure the people complaining would be complaining on here if they played this week and got bowled out for a sub score.

Also how many people does it take to put on a cover as well?

[mickey]

Also how many people does it take to put on a cover as well?

Single pitch cover (6m x 30m) can be put on by 1 person, 2 is easier.
Full square covers are a 2-3 person job minimum.

[Tiger Couple]

It's not just David that goes around. I believe it is members of the Board and Emergency Committee.

I would imagine they would not check every ground. Someone would possibly do Brighton, Marion, Flinders Uni, Sacred Heart another person does Grange, Woodville Rech, Woodville South and someone does Kilburn, Ingle Farm, Pooraka and someone else Adelaide High, Pulteney, Prince Alfred, SPOC If over 50% are unfit they call the games off.

This is only an example as I haven't covered the Eastern Suburbs.

Having been involved in the past with Juniors I have recieved a phone call asking about our oval condition before a decision has been made on the Sunday.

I think we would all prefer the call off than a game decided by the toss.

[The Hound]

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I think we would all prefer the call off than a game decided by the toss.[/quote]

I think we would all enjoy to play the game TC, that is what we are here to do afterall.
The beauty of turf cricket is the variables it dishes up. Are we not becoming a bit soft in not wanting to play on a sticky pitch. Day 1 pitch of a test is different to Day 5 and we all underatnd that. Do the batsman on day 1 say I am not batting on day 5 becasue the ball is not coming on as much!

If we didn't want the conditions to change then maybe we should play hard wicket, where the conditions are the same day after day. This is not having a go at anyone playing hard wicket as I have done so myself.

Of concern though is the number of clubs struggling/pulling out U/17 teams.

[Lightning McQueen]

Of concern though is the number of clubs struggling/pulling out U/17 teams.

When does this grade play??