by RedMagpie » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:36 am
by Groover » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:24 am
by duck-mann » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:35 am
RedMagpie wrote:I am all for new clubs to the leauge and new teams to the leauge, but really the same question could have been asked about a Pub, turf war sort of thingo?
I think the Rose and Crown name set the precidence(?sp?) for this and there is no way you can knock it back. I do like the Adelaide Bangladesh Tigers as it could be a good way for them to migle with those they would oftern not. A good place for Migrants to come through. It must be daunting knowing no one in a new surrounding! At least they can all draw from one simialr interst and hopefuly network and build/mould there culture around the Australian way.
I would have gone for something along the lines of the New Australian's and offered an olive branch to the other refugee's. With numbers comes strength and money, something needed to survive in any competition.
by MadMax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:42 am
duck-mann wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.
Agree with this statement 100%
by RedMagpie » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:00 pm
duck-mann wrote:RedMagpie wrote:I am all for new clubs to the leauge and new teams to the leauge, but really the same question could have been asked about a Pub, turf war sort of thingo?
I think the Rose and Crown name set the precidence(?sp?) for this and there is no way you can knock it back. I do like the Adelaide Bangladesh Tigers as it could be a good way for them to migle with those they would oftern not. A good place for Migrants to come through. It must be daunting knowing no one in a new surrounding! At least they can all draw from one simialr interst and hopefuly network and build/mould there culture around the Australian way.
I would have gone for something along the lines of the New Australian's and offered an olive branch to the other refugee's. With numbers comes strength and money, something needed to survive in any competition.
this is true and little things like this exist and local rivalries make for a great day out in any sport! my concern is that using countries in your name COULD create a bigger issue than "my pub/club is better than yours"
by bothamsfearnley » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:10 pm
MadMax wrote:duck-mann wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.
Agree with this statement 100%
Are you serious? We are all different whether we are seperated by suburb (Smithfield, OTH, Salisbury West) by workplace (Pacific Dunlop, ATCO) or by sport (CDRLCC, Salisbury Footballers, TTG Football). At the end of the day we are all social clubs based on a common love for the game. I think it's pretty narrow minded to question the origins of there social club. Next club in could be the British Workmans club, Samoan Expatriates Social Club or Gawler Christian Centre. Will the same debate be opened if this occurs?
by bothamsfearnley » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:13 pm
bothamsfearnley wrote:MadMax wrote:duck-mann wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.
Agree with this statement 100%
Are you serious? We are all different whether we are seperated by suburb (Smithfield, OTH, Salisbury West) by workplace (Pacific Dunlop, ATCO) or by sport (CDRLCC, Salisbury Footballers, TTG Football). At the end of the day we are all social clubs based on a common love for the game. I think it's pretty narrow minded to question the origins of there social club. Next club in could be the British Workmans club, Samoan Expatriates Social Club or Gawler Christian Centre. Will the same debate be opened if this occurs?
Yes it should. Or else these guys are being unfairly targeted, and that would be wrong.
by duck-mann » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:13 pm
bothamsfearnley wrote:MadMax wrote:duck-mann wrote:Phantom Gossiper wrote:I dont think a side should be allowed to enter any competition in any sport in Australia named after another country or carrying a name that clearly seperates them and identifies them as "different" from others.
Agree with this statement 100%
Are you serious? We are all different whether we are seperated by suburb (Smithfield, OTH, Salisbury West) by workplace (Pacific Dunlop, ATCO) or by sport (CDRLCC, Salisbury Footballers, TTG Football). At the end of the day we are all social clubs based on a common love for the game. I think it's pretty narrow minded to question the origins of there social club. Next club in could be the British Workmans club, Samoan Expatriates Social Club or Gawler Christian Centre. Will the same debate be opened if this occurs?
Yes it should. Or else these guys are being unfairly targeted, and that would be wrong.
by sports follower » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:26 pm
duck-mann wrote:SmithyOTH wrote:i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.
one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.
Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...
but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...
Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...
by MadMax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:03 pm
sports follower wrote:duck-mann wrote:SmithyOTH wrote:i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.
one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.
Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...
but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...
Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...
Obviously the delegates from ALL clubs didnt have a problem with the name of this new club as they have been accepted.
by duck-mann » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:45 pm
MadMax wrote:We (Craigmore) voted against both teams entering only due to the distance to their home grounds (TTG @ Banksia Park H.S. and Banger Tigers @ Northfield P.S.)
Interesting side note to the AGM held at Smithfield: Smithfield was absent, Elizabeth East has folded and Riverside, Northern Wolves and Salisbury North were absent also. Initial team nominations were due that night too.
by norm11 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:51 pm
by MadMax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:53 pm
norm11 wrote:was riverside absent or have they folded? Just couldn't make sence of your post
by norm11 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:59 pm
MadMax wrote:norm11 wrote:was riverside absent or have they folded? Just couldn't make sence of your post
Only confirmed club to have folded was Elizabeth east.. others mentioned were absent.
by TrueRoo » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:09 pm
by Iwasthere84 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:23 pm
MadMax wrote:sports follower wrote:duck-mann wrote:SmithyOTH wrote:i heard there is 2 new teams wanting to play in the one day comp.
one is called the "Bangladesh Tigers and i cant remember the other one.
Im not racist by any means so please dont anybody take this the wrong way...
but arent we setting a bit of a dangerous precedent by allowing a team to be named after a country? I have heard that there is government funding for immigrant groups to set up sporting teams to help them integrate into society better but surely they should be naming the clubs after the suburb/area they live in just like every one else??
Soccer has issues between clubs that are named after countries with people bringing "excess baggage" on to the local sports field...
Not trying to start any major debate here but thought it was an interesting subject...
Obviously the delegates from ALL clubs didnt have a problem with the name of this new club as they have been accepted.
We (Craigmore) voted against both teams entering only due to the distance to their home grounds (TTG @ Banksia Park H.S. and Banger Tigers @ Northfield P.S.)
Interesting side note to the AGM held at Smithfield: Smithfield was absent, Elizabeth East has folded and Riverside, Northern Wolves and Salisbury North were absent also. Initial team nominations were due that night too.
by MadMax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:37 pm
Iwasthere84 wrote:If that is the reason then your club is an absolute disgrace. No wonder Craigmore is now the joke of the association. We are losing teams every year and you vote to keep them out. No wonder you were the only ones to vote against it
by bothamsfearnley » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:37 am
MadMax wrote:Iwasthere84 wrote:If that is the reason then your club is an absolute disgrace. No wonder Craigmore is now the joke of the association. We are losing teams every year and you vote to keep them out. No wonder you were the only ones to vote against it
It was only due to the fact that these teams were playing in the one day comp and we have a lot of kids playing in that grade and as it is some games, captains take up to 4 kids in their car to away games. Purely distance reasons only. If putting the needs of parents and the kids first is being a negative force against an expanding competition, then so be it. If they were nominating teams in higher grades, it wouldn't have been an issue.
by sports follower » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:19 am
by broca011 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:02 pm
MadMax wrote:Iwasthere84 wrote:If that is the reason then your club is an absolute disgrace. No wonder Craigmore is now the joke of the association. We are losing teams every year and you vote to keep them out. No wonder you were the only ones to vote against it
It was only due to the fact that these teams were playing in the one day comp and we have a lot of kids playing in that grade and as it is some games, captains take up to 4 kids in their car to away games. Purely distance reasons only. If putting the needs of parents and the kids first is being a negative force against an expanding competition, then so be it. If they were nominating teams in higher grades, it wouldn't have been an issue.
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