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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Westsider » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:25 pm

Why not Mitchell Park for relegation?

At least NH have 6 teams in the 6 divs.
MP has 3 teams. (sect 1, 3 and 5).

Because if you follow the bottom down, top up process its possible you are going to get 3 NH in one div next year.

NH I - Sect1 -> Sect2
NH II - Sect2 -> Sect3
NH III - Sect3 -> Sect3
NH IV - Sect4 -> Sect3 (if they win finals)
NH V - Sect5 -> Sect4 (if they win finals)
NH VI - Sect6 -> Sect6
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:16 pm

Mitchell Pk should be relegated for me. They are an old side who have been anchored to the bottom for the last few years whereas Nth Haven are a young side who are likely to improve and have had 1 bad season because of the amount of youngsters they have. Mitchell Pk will need to recruit to be competitive in section 1 and Nth Haven will become much more competitive with the natural improvement of there younger fellas.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby bay boy » Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:22 pm

bazza1 wrote:Yeah mate we lost the game but we won the battle, great way to end the season. Basso asked me what my intentions were and i said you guys have to bowl us out. Restored a bit of confidence back in the team.

Basso tried a similar thing last game against Keswick, he wanted to play a 10/10 for the 2nd innings with them batting 2nd...Think he thought we were fools !
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby CoverKing » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:04 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:
CoverKing wrote:
Roseboy wrote:
wycbloods wrote:A cracker of a game at WYC which we finished the wrong side of. The ramblers chased down the 228 set by WYC and were bowled out for 230. They were 7/120odd but had good partnerships after that for every wicket and snuck home. The big fella at the end batted well, and we gave him a few lives, and knocked up a match winning 70. It was a good game and next weeks semi between the two sides at the Ramblers should be a cracker of a game. We will be welcoming back R Hopkins and J Whenan which i am sure will make our side 3 runs better ;) .

Yeah, big Damian batted very well. To have a guy like him come in at number 9 is a huge luxury.

I agree that Hopkins and Whenan returning are big ins, but it'll be interesting to see who you have to say goodbye to make way for them. Never nice to have to drop guys going into finals...

I have to say, I don't think I've seen that many LBWs given in a game of cricket. I'm not saying they weren't there, but 7 of 20 is unusual...


IMO chris is always consistent and does not give too many lbws from what iv seen. he coulda just had many lbw's that were out. but 7 outta 20 is a lot.
Calderbank wasnt happy with his?? and walked off in a good manner. Thought that was a bit poor by him as captain standing at the crease for so long after being given out lbw ...
Great batting at the end by that damian bloke, batted well and hit some big balls! Deserved to win in the end if we couldnt bowl you out after having em 7/120 odd defending 228. Too good! Be a good game this saturday and sunday.

Well done to NH for not just avoiding the outright but batting well and should take some confidence from that into next year. Good work bazza on saying they will have to bowl you out and not giving them the chance to make the 4.
Hewett medal could come down to if Rusty did anything for keswick in there outright win? sambo and rowe obviously both big contenders but may miss out on votes this game.


Calderbank and the non-striker both felt it wasn't pitching or in line with the stumps, just that he padded up to it. Why batsmen pad up is beyond me anyway.

Reckon the story of that game is catches win matches, but that is true for most. Mind you, there was the odd great throw at the stumps :?

Nice to get this weeks game back home and away from your 1980s matting. About time that got replaced chaps. Does no favours to the ball at all.


AF if the ball pitches outside off stump and hit you outside the line, and a batsman has padded up he can still be given out. so maybe calderbank should learn the rules of the lbw rule before he stands at the crease after being given out for 30 seconds. Our matting Is great, just the president has got lazy and not redone the line since christmas. It is by far better then westminsters and coro with the stuck down matting, so im assuming yours is the same. and definitely catches win matches, fielding was good in some patches but overall was terrible. lets hope that changes for next.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby CoverKing » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:12 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:
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Amateur Footy wrote:Nice to get this weeks game back home and away from your 1980s matting. About time that got replaced chaps. Does no favours to the ball at all.


The stuck down matting used at Hewett and Hawthorndene ovals are an awful, 2 paced, bowlers wet dream. Get a half decent bowler on them with a 2 piece ball and they become dangerous.

Good luck to all sides in the finals.

Who should be relegated to div.2 ??


Why an we still make plenty of runs on them then? Once you're in they're fine IMO. The ball can do some funny things but I haven't seen any wickets result from it. Normally does too much.

NH will be relegated.

The WYC matting must have been 2nd hand two seasons ago surely? The old line markings have been removed and swapped ends and now the current lines are almost gone. Different type of matting to what most clubs use too.


and making plenty of runs on your pitch??
rd 2 scores of 86 and 5/93, 9/52 and 0/48
rd 4 9/180 and 177 (total of 140 overs bowled)
rd 7 93 and 5/98, 7/196 and 7/76
rd 9 97 and 6/255
rd 10 8/231 dec,136 and 73

thats two scores over 200 on your pitch in div 1 this year. Ramblers with one in rd 10 and icc the other in rd 9.
Ramblers batters the top run scorer is only 220 odd, and its not like ur side is playing on a hackham size oval either. i think that shows that its definitely 2 paced and a bowlers dream.
As much as i dont like it, i shall agree with Gowser
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby jb » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:20 pm

jake whenan and hoppy returning to wyc i think will be too strong for the ramblers, especially hoppy seeing asthough they had ramblers 7/120 and couldnt finish them off...will make a big difference!

if we bowl like we did yesterday and bat the 75 overs i think we would be much more of a chance this week against the sharks and with the return of harvey and cooke will bolster the fire power! sharks have verral coming back this week so they will be very strong! but with the line up they have and the season they have all had all the pressure is on them to win it!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby CoverKing » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:23 pm

jb wrote:jake whenan and hoppy returning to wyc i think will be too strong for the ramblers, especially hoppy seeing asthough they had ramblers 7/120 and couldnt finish them off...will make a big difference!

if we bowl like we did yesterday and bat the 75 overs i think we would be much more of a chance this week against the sharks and with the return of harvey and cooke will bolster the fire power! sharks have verral coming back this week so they will be very strong! but with the line up they have and the season they have all had all the pressure is on them to win it!


thats it JB pressure is firmly on ICC and ramblers now, home finals and with wins over sheidow and wyc respectively. will be a good weekend of cricket. Be two reall good games IMO and very tight.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:42 pm

jb wrote:jake whenan and hoppy returning to wyc i think will be too strong for the ramblers, especially hoppy seeing asthough they had ramblers 7/120 and couldnt finish them off...will make a big difference!

if we bowl like we did yesterday and bat the 75 overs i think we would be much more of a chance this week against the sharks and with the return of harvey and cooke will bolster the fire power! sharks have verral coming back this week so they will be very strong! but with the line up they have and the season they have all had all the pressure is on them to win it!


Harvey and Cooke will help you boys out but i thought the hack had a dodgy foot jb?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby jb » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:53 pm

wycbloods wrote:
jb wrote:jake whenan and hoppy returning to wyc i think will be too strong for the ramblers, especially hoppy seeing asthough they had ramblers 7/120 and couldnt finish them off...will make a big difference!

if we bowl like we did yesterday and bat the 75 overs i think we would be much more of a chance this week against the sharks and with the return of harvey and cooke will bolster the fire power! sharks have verral coming back this week so they will be very strong! but with the line up they have and the season they have all had all the pressure is on them to win it!


Harvey and Cooke will help you boys out but i thought the hack had a dodgy foot jb?


na he'll be right, we breed em tough down at sheidow park
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby The sarge » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:58 pm

It is an amazing effort from our guys to be playing finals this year. Our first year back in section 1 for a club that has never played section 1 finals before we have done very well. We have also had shocking luck with injuries this year with only Fordy playing every game (and he broke his arm in pre season and now has a broken thumb) Should be two pretty good finals this weekend and i would say the best 4 teams made it in the end.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:22 pm

The sarge wrote:It is an amazing effort from our guys to be playing finals this year. Our first year back in section 1 for a club that has never played section 1 finals before we have done very well. We have also had shocking luck with injuries this year with only Fordy playing every game (and he broke his arm in pre season and now has a broken thumb) Should be two pretty good finals this weekend and i would say the best 4 teams made it in the end.


I will second that. Glenelg, Plympton and Keswick all showed their best was good enough but they were not consistent enough.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:17 pm

Before you go blaming our pitch for low scores, remind me of where we have made runs this yr? WYC and Westminster would be the only games away from home where we've made atleast 200. ICC made a bucketload on it. The reason for low scores is good bowling and poor batting by both ourselves and the opposition. Not the pitch. Plympton have no-one to blame but themselves for losing to us.

I'd agree switching ends of the matting is a good idea for non-permanents, but our ball wore out very quickly and I reckon Macca was the only one to extract any sort of bounce out of the pitch.

Why write crap like all the pressure is on ICC and Ramblers? 4 teams with no more pressure than one another. Id expect most would be tipping WYC to beat us, so how does that put more pressure on us? I'd suggest we are the only team withour a 'superstar' or two, so we won't go lumping any extra pressure on ourselves.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:21 pm

Westsider wrote:Why not Mitchell Park for relegation?

At least NH have 6 teams in the 6 divs.
MP has 3 teams. (sect 1, 3 and 5).

Because if you follow the bottom down, top up process its possible you are going to get 3 NH in one div next year.

NH I - Sect1 -> Sect2
NH II - Sect2 -> Sect3
NH III - Sect3 -> Sect3
NH IV - Sect4 -> Sect3 (if they win finals)
NH V - Sect5 -> Sect4 (if they win finals)
NH VI - Sect6 -> Sect6


My understanding is there's no choice. It's whoever finishes bottom provided the team who wins sect 2 doesn't have a team in sect 1 already.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby CoverKing » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:42 pm

why is it crap AF that i wrote the pressure is on u and the ramblers? ur both 2 games clear of any other side. u have both just beaten the same side in the last minor round game. u are playing at ur home ground. i think we are the underdogs and deserve the tag because u jsut outplayed us like icc outplayed sheidow. thats IMO

and north haven get relegated could b a bit hard with 6 sides and one in each div. i personally think mitchell park should go down because they are carp and have been that low for many years in a row. morphys were unlucky last year IMO because they had one bad year and went down! NH have got a future to look forward to, whereas mitchell park are old, washed up and should be playing div 2. but the rules are rules and NH have finished bottom and might get relegated, but i think the association will find it hard to relegate NH if it means either a side from NH will pull out or if NH then has 2 sides in div 6 ...
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby 3RUNS-SHORT » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:04 pm

CoverKing wrote:why is it crap AF that i wrote the pressure is on u and the ramblers? ur both 2 games clear of any other side. u have both just beaten the same side in the last minor round game. u are playing at ur home ground. i think we are the underdogs and deserve the tag because u jsut outplayed us like icc outplayed sheidow. thats IMO

and north haven get relegated could b a bit hard with 6 sides and one in each div. i personally think mitchell park should go down because they are carp and have been that low for many years in a row. morphys were unlucky last year IMO because they had one bad year and went down! NH have got a future to look forward to, whereas mitchell park are old, washed up and should be playing div 2. but the rules are rules and NH have finished bottom and might get relegated, but i think the association will find it hard to relegate NH if it means either a side from NH will pull out or if NH then has 2 sides in div 6 ...


AF to make WYC underdogs do you need the inclusion of ponting, hughes and johnson or something? pretty sure CK has summed it all up pretty well.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:28 am

I haven't said who I think should be relegated, just what I think the rules are. I think the rules are fine and the lowest team should go down if the team with sect 2 premiership can come up. As soon as you introduce a subjective promotion/relegation system it gets messy. Teams in lower grades don't have any bearing on Sect 1 make-up. If Mitchell Pks Mt Gambier boys head home next season they will wish they were in Sect 2.

Still find it interesting you would say the pressure is on us when we only just beat you guys without two of your best and we've only played finals once in 10 years. Call it what you will but I know most non WYC or Ramblers forum members will predict a WYC win. I can't see the pressure of finishing top affecting ICC with the arrogance they show every time they play.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Roseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:44 am

Who on earth still believes in this "underdog" bullsh!t? Especially in our level of cricket. FFS, you prepare for the game as best you can, you rock up on the Saturday focussed and you play. Me thinks a few of you guys watch a little too much sport on TV.

There's pressure on all 4 teams cos we're all in the finals, wanting to get to the GF and then win it. If you are looking for more inspiration than to win the GF, you're looking too hard.

Think what you like about the pitch at Hawthorndene. It's the same for both sides, just like it's a batting dream @ WYC. It was the same for both teams then too. For the record, in section 2, the Ramblers made 260-odd the previous week on the "apsolute piece of SHI_" as Bulldogs007 so retardedly put it (who might I say should know what a crap pitch and ground is), WYC section 2 made the runs 6 down or so.

As for who goes down, neither team is competitive, send them both down, bring Morphys and Warradale back up (1st and 4th respectively in section 2) . Problem solvered. Everyone's saying how old Mitchell Park is - I reckon there's about 2 guys in that side over 33 that I can recall. A lot will depend on how they go keeping their players though as to whether they'll stay competitive. Also, they didn't lose outright all year, can't be too "washed up".

North Haven won 2 games in section 1 and 2 combined and middle of the road in section 3. Hardly a compelling case to stay in section 1. Yeah they're young, but potential is not always reliable.

As I've said before, it's not a right to have a section 1 team, you need to earn it. Neither team has IMO (nothing personal guys). No doubt clubs with a section 2 side being their highest team will be busting a gut to get back in.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby the back pocket » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:53 am

You can have 2 sides in section 6. This happened this season with Sheidow Park having two sides in there this season.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Bulldogs007 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:46 am

Who are Mitchell Parks Mt Gambier lads?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:03 am

Bulldogs007 wrote:Who are Mitchell Parks Mt Gambier lads?


The drenthens are all that i know of.
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