Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby scottiemc » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:44 pm

Any results from yesterday?

Westminster def North Haven
I heard ICC won comfortably and WYC went down to Glenelg, are these results correct?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Bulldogga55 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:37 pm

Plympton defeated Mitchell Park by 20 runs. Heard Sheidow belted South Road as well?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby The Hunter » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:32 pm

coro spanked keswick. coro 6/227 keswick bowled out for 149 in the 30th. Think keswick will find it hard to make finals now with ana, plympton and shiedow taking wins. Coro played really well and kswick were shit.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Real McCoy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:51 am

Section 2, Sth Rd v Sheidow Pk, anyone know the score.

Also Morphy Pk doing there bit for the bushfire appeal by canning Tuesday night training and all are going to the 20/20 cricket match.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:56 am

ICC destroyed the Ramblers on the weekend. Not a friendly game as usual and a few dropped catches in the field and some good batting led to some big scores by the ICC boys. Made far too many runs for us to chase and we crumbled.

I was involved in the strangest dismissal I have ever seen on the weekend and (without looking up the official rules - which I already have) would like the opinion of others as to whether or not it should be out. If unsure would you expect benefit of the doubt to go to the batsman?

A ball was driven hard into the pitch and bounced almost straight up at which point it was again hit by the cricket bat on the follow through above the batsmans head. The ball was hit backwards to second slip where the catch was taken and after an appeal the finger was raised despite protests from the batsman. Is it out / unsure / not out?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:03 am

Amateur Footy wrote:ICC destroyed the Ramblers on the weekend. Not a friendly game as usual and a few dropped catches in the field and some good batting led to some big scores by the ICC boys. Made far too many runs for us to chase and we crumbled.

I was involved in the strangest dismissal I have ever seen on the weekend and (without looking up the official rules - which I already have) would like the opinion of others as to whether or not it should be out. If unsure would you expect benefit of the doubt to go to the batsman?

A ball was driven hard into the pitch and bounced almost straight up at which point it was again hit by the cricket bat on the follow through above the batsmans head. The ball was hit backwards to second slip where the catch was taken and after an appeal the finger was raised despite protests from the batsman. Is it out / unsure / not out?


Thats my answer AF :? . We batted terribly and the bays showed us up pretty comfortably in the end. The finals race is certainly heating up and it looks possible that we may play the ramblers two games in a row.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Booney » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:06 am

Amateur Footy wrote:ICC destroyed the Ramblers on the weekend. Not a friendly game as usual and a few dropped catches in the field and some good batting led to some big scores by the ICC boys. Made far too many runs for us to chase and we crumbled.

I was involved in the strangest dismissal I have ever seen on the weekend and (without looking up the official rules - which I already have) would like the opinion of others as to whether or not it should be out. If unsure would you expect benefit of the doubt to go to the batsman?

A ball was driven hard into the pitch and bounced almost straight up at which point it was again hit by the cricket bat on the follow through above the batsmans head. The ball was hit backwards to second slip where the catch was taken and after an appeal the finger was raised despite protests from the batsman. Is it out / unsure / not out?


Therein lies the answer, not out. I would be filthy if I were to be given out like that.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:39 am

Amateur Footy wrote:ICC destroyed the Ramblers on the weekend. Not a friendly game as usual and a few dropped catches in the field and some good batting led to some big scores by the ICC boys. Made far too many runs for us to chase and we crumbled.

I was involved in the strangest dismissal I have ever seen on the weekend and (without looking up the official rules - which I already have) would like the opinion of others as to whether or not it should be out. If unsure would you expect benefit of the doubt to go to the batsman?

A ball was driven hard into the pitch and bounced almost straight up at which point it was again hit by the cricket bat on the follow through above the batsmans head. The ball was hit backwards to second slip where the catch was taken and after an appeal the finger was raised despite protests from the batsman. Is it out / unsure / not out?


That is NOT OUT. You can't score off a second hit so you can't get out off a second hit. When in doubt the verdict is NOT OUT so pretty poor by the umpire.

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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby bay boy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:11 am

Amateur Footy wrote:ICC destroyed the Ramblers on the weekend. Not a friendly game as usual and a few dropped catches in the field and some good batting led to some big scores by the ICC boys. Made far too many runs for us to chase and we crumbled.

I was involved in the strangest dismissal I have ever seen on the weekend and (without looking up the official rules - which I already have) would like the opinion of others as to whether or not it should be out. If unsure would you expect benefit of the doubt to go to the batsman?

A ball was driven hard into the pitch and bounced almost straight up at which point it was again hit by the cricket bat on the follow through above the batsmans head. The ball was hit backwards to second slip where the catch was taken and after an appeal the finger was raised despite protests from the batsman. Is it out / unsure / not out?

definately NOT OUT...how could he give that out, not a good way to start ur sides innings
Who was the umpire ??
Get back on topic please...this is garbage !!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby jb » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:36 pm

sheidow park are filthy about playing south road in a 1 dayer making 159 on a slow oval and rolling them for about 70 and dropping 4 catches... and maca is actually human, finally failed!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Roseboy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:43 pm

I'm clearly biased towards AF, but the decision just smacks of being pressured into it.

My thoughts are very similar to Rik E Boy's regarding the 2nd hit not counting. So if you play a ball, it heads towards the stumps, can't have a 2nd swing and hit it for 4, so how can you get out to it?

It's unusual, that's for sure. But some common sense should dictate that you have a moment to think about it and think through the scenario. The fact there were 2 paid umpires there and they still got it wrong beggers belief that this occurred.

Is there a tribunal/review panel for stupidity?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:07 pm

Well if anyone's interested the official MCC rules in part 32 (2) D state that for a catch to be fair after the ball hit the bat twice, the ball must not have hit the ground since the initial hit - therefore not out. Remember that the next time you see it :?

As RB said, we had two umpires, Ray Thatcher and Kevin Spencer. Not one of them looked as though they were confident in the decision but were too weak to rule not out. I thought it was very poor sportmanship by ICC to even appeal and it's an indication of the way they play cricket. They are good cricketers, but I'll keep my opinion of the way they go about it to myself.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby jb » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:39 pm

gee ray isn't having a good year with those catching decisions is he... af after the mal condon saga ive accepted that while the association isn't gonna put these umpires through proper training then we will continue to cop poor decisions from most of these umpires...
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:40 pm

Roseboy wrote:I'm clearly biased towards AF, but the decision just smacks of being pressured into it.

My thoughts are very similar to Rik E Boy's regarding the 2nd hit not counting. So if you play a ball, it heads towards the stumps, can't have a 2nd swing and hit it for 4, so how can you get out to it?

It's unusual, that's for sure. But some common sense should dictate that you have a moment to think about it and think through the scenario. The fact there were 2 paid umpires there and they still got it wrong beggers belief that this occurred.

Is there a tribunal/review panel for stupidity?


Why did you guys have two paid umpires anyway?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Real McCoy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:06 pm

I was told on Tuesday by Peter that Ray was umpiring our game.
He wasn't going to umpire this round cause he couldn't do the first week.
Was a bit surprised as we are in section 2.
At least now we know why he didn't turn up.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby JohnnyG » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:10 pm

Booney wrote:If any team is upset by the cancellation of play they need to get over it.

The rules are in place and the executive consulted all the clubs before making a heat policy and then before they revised it.

If it so happens that a team who is well on top does not get the points,or an team well down gets 3 points for nothing it is all about player welfare and that should be the main priority on the mind of all captains.I know it is for me.

I come out to enjoy the game,the mateship and the competition of the sport. For mine,in 40+c two of those are gone. The mateship remains but the overall enjoyment of the day coupled with the potential for one or more of my team to fall ill means I back the heat policy 100%.

Now,dont get me wrong,I used to be of the theory "harden up",but extra years (and kg's) have made me think more about what it means to play Div 4 hard wicket and it certainly isnt worth risking any ones health over.




Booney - did you play Div 4 on Saturday for NH iv - if so, which one were you?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:17 pm

JohnnyG wrote:
Booney wrote:If any team is upset by the cancellation of play they need to get over it.

The rules are in place and the executive consulted all the clubs before making a heat policy and then before they revised it.

If it so happens that a team who is well on top does not get the points,or an team well down gets 3 points for nothing it is all about player welfare and that should be the main priority on the mind of all captains.I know it is for me.

I come out to enjoy the game,the mateship and the competition of the sport. For mine,in 40+c two of those are gone. The mateship remains but the overall enjoyment of the day coupled with the potential for one or more of my team to fall ill means I back the heat policy 100%.

Now,dont get me wrong,I used to be of the theory "harden up",but extra years (and kg's) have made me think more about what it means to play Div 4 hard wicket and it certainly isnt worth risking any ones health over.



Booney - did you play Div 4 on Saturday for NH iv - if so, which one were you?


He certainly didn't he plays for WYC.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:18 pm

Didn't need 2 umpires IMO, just one good one. The games between us and ICC wouldn't be pleasant to umpire. Andrew Wright is an interesting character, but he keeps the game in check so would have been a better option.

Association foots the bill for the 2nd umpire too.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby JohnnyG » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:40 pm

wycbloods wrote:
JohnnyG wrote:
Booney wrote:Now,dont get me wrong,I used to be of the theory "harden up",but extra years (and kg's) have made me think more about what it means to play Div 4 hard wicket and it certainly isnt worth risking any ones health over.



Booney - did you play Div 4 on Saturday for NH iv - if so, which one were you?


He certainly didn't he plays for WYC.



No wonder i couldnt work out who he was :oops:
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:49 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:Didn't need 2 umpires IMO, just one good one. The games between us and ICC wouldn't be pleasant to umpire. Andrew Wright is an interesting character, but he keeps the game in check so would have been a better option.

Association foots the bill for the 2nd umpire too.


I do find it weird that you guys would have 2 umpires............. did you have any explanation as to why you had two umpires?
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