Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

[Lightning McQueen]

Im not sure that should be a problem, if a clubs D grade is as good as another A grade then its fine but the problem comes about when groups of players move to a lower grade side or new teams come in i always liked the promotion relegation system as it will always give a team a chance

Well it is a problem, Two Wells, Grade 1 last season, Grade 6 this season, 16 points clear on top. There are more examples that I'm not going into, the relegation/promotion system is showing glitches, our C's have been hopeless the last couple of seasons and have had to stay in Grade 5 whilst A grade teams below them flog their opponents and our kids are subject to grade 1 quality bowlers zipping balls around their ears and loving it.

sounds like the system is ok but how its is run is where it breaks down maybe a closer monitoring of player movements would help this. As the proposed format could mean some A grades sides move up but their B Grade will get flogged hence players could move on

It should give clubs the opportunity to look after both of their major teams.
Clubs hold on to clearances until the programs have been sorted and then push them through Thursday before the 1st game, you can't monitor this. I think lower ranked clubs should play their A's against other lower ranked clubs.

[skywalker]

Lightning are you on the association committee for pdca? If you are, well done for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format, if you aren't..... well, well done also for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format lol ... and perhaps you should drive this talent from on the association committee and begin rebuilding the PDCA name.

Another thought on the A1, A2 reserves format is that all clubs must field at least 2 teams. If they cannot they can only compete in a LOA comp or similar until they have numbers to go through A3 etc

[cokadonkeytoo]

i reckon your correct LM teachers will regain a few players maybe enough to fill two sides, mind you the quality that comes back will be too high for grade 5, is it possible if they get the numbers that they could re apply for grade 3 or something?

They have to wait one more season to get all of their players back, next season they'll have few more eligible given their current grade. If they go up a grade though, they will be allowed to get ALL of their former players back.
I would imagine that the PDCA would have no hesitation in allowing them to play at a higher level, it's generally clubs wanting to go down grades.

i know trav frederick is definately going back next year, maybe a few of the older lads like venn, stroud, and even wakey. i can just imagine them getting merv and suridge and browney back and they might just push back up through the divisions

The ones that played in their B's will be allowed back next season, the ones that played A's will have to wait another season unless the go to grade 4 and then it will be all good.

Does it make a difference if they are coming back from a different comp ie Suburban?

[cokadonkeytoo]

Lightning are you on the association committee for pdca? If you are, well done for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format, if you aren't..... well, well done also for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format lol ... and perhaps you should drive this talent from on the association committee and begin rebuilding the PDCA name.

Another thought on the A1, A2 reserves format is that all clubs must field at least 2 teams. If they cannot they can only compete in a LOA comp or similar until they have numbers to go through A3 etc

Thats a very good idea, the LOA, LOB, LOC format would be ideal, You could have the Two Wells, Para Teachers, North Pines etc set up in those comps along with the clubs that have 4 and 5 sides

[duck-mann]

This season is just hitting finals and people are already deciding what they're doing next season. Anyone from a non-finals contending club (wouldnt want to upset any teams going into finals ) know of anyone already planning a change of scenery for next season?

One of our B grade players has already informed us he is changing clubs for 2010/2011

Who and where? It seems a little premature to making such a bold announcement. We have 10 players that we have spoken to, obviously we wont get all of them, even if we did they couldn't all fit into our A grade.
It's a tough line, if you spend too much time enticing one or two players to come out and they don't, you might miss the boat on some lower choices that you were after.

Craig Brook - I'll leave it to him to announce where he's going. He has been contemplating a move for a while now. He's obviously finally made up his mind.

[cokadonkeytoo]

This season is just hitting finals and people are already deciding what they're doing next season. Anyone from a non-finals contending club (wouldnt want to upset any teams going into finals ) know of anyone already planning a change of scenery for next season?

One of our B grade players has already informed us he is changing clubs for 2010/2011

Who and where? It seems a little premature to making such a bold announcement. We have 10 players that we have spoken to, obviously we wont get all of them, even if we did they couldn't all fit into our A grade.
It's a tough line, if you spend too much time enticing one or two players to come out and they don't, you might miss the boat on some lower choices that you were after.

Craig Brook - I'll leave it to him to announce where he's going. He has been contemplating a move for a while now. He's obviously finally made up his mind.

Out of frustration on not cracking into the a grade side?

[Lightning McQueen]

Lightning are you on the association committee for pdca? If you are, well done for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format, if you aren't..... well, well done also for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format lol ... and perhaps you should drive this talent from on the association committee and begin rebuilding the PDCA name.

Another thought on the A1, A2 reserves format is that all clubs must field at least 2 teams. If they cannot they can only compete in a LOA comp or similar until they have numbers to go through A3 etc

No, I'm not, maybe one day. I just want to see the competition go forward, it has a lot of positive's.
That was what I was getting at with the A1, A2's, good point about LOA etc.

[Lightning McQueen]

Does it make a difference if they are coming back from a different comp ie Suburban?

It wouldn't make a difference if they had been playing on Saturn, or not playing at all. Once you lose pretty much a whole side and opt to go down 4 grades. it takes 1 year per grade you went down before you can represent that team again, fair rule IMO.

[cokadonkeytoo]

Does it make a difference if they are coming back from a different comp ie Suburban?

It wouldn't make a difference if they had been playing on Saturn, or not playing at all. Once you lose pretty much a whole side and opt to go down 4 grades. it takes 1 year per grade you went down before you can represent that team again, fair rule IMO.

Yeah i totally agree with you, just wondering LM and im not sure what the quality of player is like on Saturn but im sure there would be some stinkers on Uranus

[Lightning McQueen]

Does it make a difference if they are coming back from a different comp ie Suburban?

It wouldn't make a difference if they had been playing on Saturn, or not playing at all. Once you lose pretty much a whole side and opt to go down 4 grades. it takes 1 year per grade you went down before you can represent that team again, fair rule IMO.

Yeah i totally agree with you, just wondering LM and im not sure what the quality of player is like on Saturn but im sure there would be some stinkers on Uranus

I played a representative game against them once, they gave us sh!t all day.

[duck-mann]

Lightning are you on the association committee for pdca? If you are, well done for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format, if you aren't..... well, well done also for having the foresight to recognise issues within the current format lol ... and perhaps you should drive this talent from on the association committee and begin rebuilding the PDCA name.

Another thought on the A1, A2 reserves format is that all clubs must field at least 2 teams. If they cannot they can only compete in a LOA comp or similar until they have numbers to go through A3 etc

Thats a very good idea, the LOA, LOB, LOC format would be ideal, You could have the Two Wells, Para Teachers, North Pines etc set up in those comps along with the clubs that have 4 and 5 sides

Maybe have a look at the system used in the SAASL (South Australian Amateur Soccer League) I think the top 5 grades are based on a "first and reserves" system (or A1 & A2) then from grade 6 down is for clubs that only field one side or for "c" teams. Obviously there are more grades in the SAASL but no reason why the same format cant work for PDCA

[cokadonkeytoo]

Does it make a difference if they are coming back from a different comp ie Suburban?

It wouldn't make a difference if they had been playing on Saturn, or not playing at all. Once you lose pretty much a whole side and opt to go down 4 grades. it takes 1 year per grade you went down before you can represent that team again, fair rule IMO.

Yeah i totally agree with you, just wondering LM and im not sure what the quality of player is like on Saturn but im sure there would be some stinkers on Uranus

I played a representative game against them once, they gave us sh!t all day.

Begin "PUN WARS 2010"

[duck-mann]

Craig Brook - I'll leave it to him to announce where he's going. He has been contemplating a move for a while now. He's obviously finally made up his mind.

Out of frustration on not cracking into the a grade side?

To be honest not 100% sure why. He definitely had chances in the A's... maybe not as many as he should have (or as many as he thinks he should have) but I dont think thatd be his only reason, thats if its a part of the reason at all.

[custardarm]

Im not sure that should be a problem, if a clubs D grade is as good as another A grade then its fine but the problem comes about when groups of players move to a lower grade side or new teams come in i always liked the promotion relegation system as it will always give a team a chance

Well it is a problem, Two Wells, Grade 1 last season, Grade 6 this season, 16 points clear on top. There are more examples that I'm not going into, the relegation/promotion system is showing glitches, our C's have been hopeless the last couple of seasons and have had to stay in Grade 5 whilst A grade teams below them flog their opponents and our kids are subject to grade 1 quality bowlers zipping balls around their ears and loving it.

i doubt that any grade 1 players are in that side LM

[cokadonkeytoo]

Craig Brook - I'll leave it to him to announce where he's going. He has been contemplating a move for a while now. He's obviously finally made up his mind.

Out of frustration on not cracking into the a grade side?

To be honest not 100% sure why. He definitely had chances in the A's... maybe not as many as he should have (or as many as he thinks he should have) but I dont think thatd be his only reason, thats if its a part of the reason at all.

I remember having a few good hit outs against him when i was at teachers, not a bad bowler on his day

[hanno_7]

Does it make a difference if they are coming back from a different comp ie Suburban?

It wouldn't make a difference if they had been playing on Saturn, or not playing at all. Once you lose pretty much a whole side and opt to go down 4 grades. it takes 1 year per grade you went down before you can represent that team again, fair rule IMO.

So they can ask to go to div 3-4 and we can play again, this rule def has pros and cons i mean the players that wanted to stick around got screwed and had to go elsewhere or just stopped playing all together.

[duck-mann]

I remember having a few good hit outs against him when i was at teachers, not a bad bowler on his day

He's lost a few yards these days. Still a handy bowler, found a little bit of batting ability too... prob more of a bowling all rounder than a strike bowler now.

[skywalker]

I remember having a few good hit outs against him when i was at teachers, not a bad bowler on his day

We're all good bowlers on our day.

He's lost a few yards these days. Still a handy bowler, found a little bit of batting ability too... prob more of a bowling all rounder than a strike bowler now.

If its the guy I'm thinking about, (tall fella with glasses?) he used to bag his own team something bad... especially his captain. He'd bag his own mother if he had a chance I reckon. lol Im surprised his jumped ship already though, isn't your club playing any finals?

[catchit]

Im not sure that should be a problem, if a clubs D grade is as good as another A grade then its fine but the problem comes about when groups of players move to a lower grade side or new teams come in i always liked the promotion relegation system as it will always give a team a chance

Well it is a problem, Two Wells, Grade 1 last season, Grade 6 this season, 16 points clear on top. There are more examples that I'm not going into, the relegation/promotion system is showing glitches, our C's have been hopeless the last couple of seasons and have had to stay in Grade 5 whilst A grade teams below them flog their opponents and our kids are subject to grade 1 quality bowlers zipping balls around their ears and loving it.

i was under the impression that two wells has the same team as last year??

[duck-mann]

If its the guy I'm thinking about, (tall fella with glasses?) he used to bag his own team something bad... especially his captain. He'd bag his own mother if he had a chance I reckon. lol Im surprised his jumped ship already though, isn't your club playing any finals?

how long ago we talkin here skywalker? and what grade? he is only about 5'10" but does where glasses.

our 'club' is playing finals, but unfortunately its the wrong two teams... our Cs and Ds are playing finals (grade 6 and 8 ) but our As and Bs missed out.