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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby woodublieve12 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:33 pm

Westsider wrote:Is it time we bring in a reserve weekend for the GF?


no i dont think so (but thats just my opinion)... benefits of finishing higher... i personally would feel it to be a hollow win especially for the top sides who were going to lose before today, but a flags a flag regardless how you win even if you didnt deserve it on the day... but you reep the rewards for having a good season... i feel are final system shouldn't change....
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Jabber » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:56 am

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Westsider wrote:Is it time we bring in a reserve weekend for the GF?


no i dont think so (but thats just my opinion)... benefits of finishing higher... i personally would feel it to be a hollow win especially for the top sides who were going to lose before today, but a flags a flag regardless how you win even if you didnt deserve it on the day... but you reep the rewards for having a good season... i feel are final system shouldn't change....


It would be disapointing that they didnt win the game, but happy they won the premiership because they were the better side of the two all year, judged by thier respective positions on the ladder. I've got no issues with that, and wold accept a premiership in that form if it were to occur.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Booney » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:01 am

Well done to the WYC C grade boys!!!

Will see them at Westies for a beer later on.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby The Hunter » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:43 am

I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Jabber » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:29 am

The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?



I suggested that earlier in the season, make the game after xmas a onedayer and make the finals 3 weeks long
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Roseboy » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:45 am

The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?

We've been talking about this exact idea at the Ramblers too. I see no downside to having a 1-day game in place of a 2-day game, especially the one after Christmas where it's always insanely hard to field teams.

I'd go as far as to say we could almost throw in another before Christmas too and have the Test weekend off like every other cricket association it seems.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:59 am

too much cricket for me if you have to play 3 consecutive weekends of sat/sun cricket. No good for guys with families.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:04 pm

The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?


I agree TH. It gives those who finish 1st or second a real advantage for having a good season. Currently they don't have that. I think guaranting a GF with one of the top 2 sides is fair.

The lack of reward for finishing top 2 is the biggest issue to me.

I also note AF's remarks with too much sat/sun cricket and i see this as the only issue that can stand in the way of these changes.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Jabber » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:53 pm

wycbloods wrote:
The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?


I agree TH. It gives those who finish 1st or second a real advantage for having a good season. Currently they don't have that. I think guaranting a GF with one of the top 2 sides is fair.

The lack of reward for finishing top 2 is the biggest issue to me.

I also note AF's remarks with too much sat/sun cricket and i see this as the only issue that can stand in the way of these changes.


I think it should be done in section one only, which makes the section one GF a stand alone match and gets other cricketers to the game to watch.

As far as too much cricket goes, i'm sure most would find ways around it in the chance to win a section one GF
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:22 pm

Jabber wrote:
wycbloods wrote:
The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?


I agree TH. It gives those who finish 1st or second a real advantage for having a good season. Currently they don't have that. I think guaranting a GF with one of the top 2 sides is fair.

The lack of reward for finishing top 2 is the biggest issue to me.

I also note AF's remarks with too much sat/sun cricket and i see this as the only issue that can stand in the way of these changes.


I think it should be done in section one only, which makes the section one GF a stand alone match and gets other cricketers to the game to watch.

As far as too much cricket goes, i'm sure most would find ways around it in the chance to win a section one GF


That has been my thinking as well Jabber. Make it just section 1(to start with at least) and see how it goes.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby azzaisbest » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:45 pm

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Bulldogga55 wrote:sect 6 played. Warradale lll winning and there A grade won as well.


Wes Lipsett is elite ! Well done Warradale A's :D


Would have to be in line for warradales top honours you would think. Come back Wes!!!!!!!!

Well Done Warradales A's !!!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:14 pm

bazza1 wrote:North Haven F Troop, (section 7) defeated ICC by 1 wicket #:-s


Go the F troop, well done!

And ANA well done also. they've had a great year and deserve the win even though it was rained out
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:19 pm

wycbloods wrote:
The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?


I agree TH. It gives those who finish 1st or second a real advantage for having a good season. Currently they don't have that. I think guaranting a GF with one of the top 2 sides is fair.

The lack of reward for finishing top 2 is the biggest issue to me.

I also note AF's remarks with too much sat/sun cricket and i see this as the only issue that can stand in the way of these changes.


the top side got a flag due to the weather, also you get a home final... good points though... however im a fan of how it is now...
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Jabber » Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:29 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
wycbloods wrote:
The Hunter wrote:I would like the finals system reviewed to have an extra week of finals.
Week 1 - 1v2 and 3v4 (winner of 1v2 to grand final and loser to play winner of 3v4. loser of 3v4 eliminated)
Week 2 - Winner of 3v4 to play loser of 1v2 and the winner of 1v2 to have a week off.
Week 3 - Grand final with winner of Week2 game to play winner of week 1 1v2.

I know that Southern cricket league use this system. An extra week can come in the form of playing another 1 dayer perhaps just before or just after cristmas because realistically i dont understand having just 1 one-dayer during the year.

I dont know...what do people think?


I agree TH. It gives those who finish 1st or second a real advantage for having a good season. Currently they don't have that. I think guaranting a GF with one of the top 2 sides is fair.

The lack of reward for finishing top 2 is the biggest issue to me.

I also note AF's remarks with too much sat/sun cricket and i see this as the only issue that can stand in the way of these changes.


the top side got a flag due to the weather, also you get a home final... good points though... however im a fan of how it is now...


Well in actual fact the top side got knocked out in the semi, as did the second side. With the revisions we want to make both sides would have had the opportunity for a second chance if they had have lost.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:50 pm

the top side got a flag due to the weather, also you get a home final... good points though... however im a fan of how it is now...[/quote]

Well in actual fact the top side got knocked out in the semi, as did the second side. With the revisions we want to make both sides would have had the opportunity for a second chance if they had have lost.[/quote]

:oops: shut up, you know what i mean... :lol:
but if you finish 1st ad 2nd and you cant beat the 3rd or 4th well get off.... i really like the waqy it is, bit of a traditionalist!!! who win the semi's are really the best 2 teams because they can win when it counts...
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Jabber » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:55 am

woodublieve12 wrote:the top side got a flag due to the weather, also you get a home final... good points though... however im a fan of how it is now...


Well in actual fact the top side got knocked out in the semi, as did the second side. With the revisions we want to make both sides would have had the opportunity for a second chance if they had have lost.[/quote]

:oops: shut up, you know what i mean... :lol:
but if you finish 1st ad 2nd and you cant beat the 3rd or 4th well get off.... i really like the waqy it is, bit of a traditionalist!!! who win the semi's are really the best 2 teams because they can win when it counts...[/quote]

So WUBSY, are you saying that ANA and Coromandel were the two best teams all year? Surely not Coro, Keswick were the most consistent side all year without any doubt.

If you are the best side all year you should get something for it, and i think a home ground advantage in cricket really isn't all that important, most pitches run pretty true, with the exception of maybe the Coro teams.

The top two teams should get a second chance.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:08 pm

The biggest concern to me is not the way the finals are set up but the weather policies- both the hot and wet weather policies. I don't think its very fair that a final can be decided on if it's too hot or too wet to play. Both teams should have an even chance when they both bat and bowl to give themselves the best chance to win the game by playing cricket and not let the weather control the contest. Any thoughts?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby CoverKing » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:32 am

The Dark Knight wrote:The biggest concern to me is not the way the finals are set up but the weather policies- both the hot and wet weather policies. I don't think its very fair that a final can be decided on if it's too hot or too wet to play. Both teams should have an even chance when they both bat and bowl to give themselves the best chance to win the game by playing cricket and not let the weather control the contest. Any thoughts?


In a social comp where we do not have spare weekends and can not because our season is long enough as it is, there is no choice but to reward the sides that have better minor rounds throughout the year. It definitely gives more meaning to the minor round, and emphasises just how important every game is!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:27 pm

Jabber wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:the top side got a flag due to the weather, also you get a home final... good points though... however im a fan of how it is now...


Well in actual fact the top side got knocked out in the semi, as did the second side. With the revisions we want to make both sides would have had the opportunity for a second chance if they had have lost.


:oops: shut up, you know what i mean... :lol:
but if you finish 1st ad 2nd and you cant beat the 3rd or 4th well get off.... i really like the waqy it is, bit of a traditionalist!!! who win the semi's are really the best 2 teams because they can win when it counts...[/quote]

So WUBSY, are you saying that ANA and Coromandel were the two best teams all year? Surely not Coro, Keswick were the most consistent side all year without any doubt.

If you are the best side all year you should get something for it, and i think a home ground advantage in cricket really isn't all that important, most pitches run pretty true, with the exception of maybe the Coro teams.

The top two teams should get a second chance.[/quote]


no they shouldnt.... thats all i got to say about that!!!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Moe » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:35 am

Welcome back Moe.
Why thanks!

I have read alot on this forum lately, but not responded, due to the fact that a) have been wayyyyyyyy too busy with my new job & b) i let my own lofty standards slip about 7 weeks ago against the Ramblers.

Let me start by apologising to the Ramblers captain JC for my remarks after our game in round 10. If i had your number i would ring up personally.
Secondly, on the debate about grand finals & double chances, well, i believe that the way we have it now is perfect. Life is unpredictable, & so is the weather.

Thirdly, all the banter about the section 4 semi between MPCC & SPCC needs to be put into context.
There were at least 15 acts of bad sportsmanship in that game, with probably 8 of them from the Crichton family. Our club does not condone certain behaviour, but even the Moeman would have found it hard to keep it within himself if he copped that crap. Well done Heath for keeping your cool mate. Yes it is a mans game, but give me that mouthful on the street & see if you leave with all your teeth.

Lastly, to OSCR (I think).
South Road showed MPCC massive dissrespect last season in the T20 match at Edwardstown by sending out an umpire who had been cooking the BBQ & drinking all arvo when the score was 6/20. He promptly gave the worst "not out" decision in history and was sent off. This year you could not even front up with a side for the comp.
MPCC might have a bad rep for alot of things, but IMO your club is a joke, & i will take it on personally to build a rivalry between us equalling that of Manchester United & Manchester City.
Having said that, I hope you end up in Div 2 next year for showing contempt to the league by not going to meetings.
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