South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

[carey18]

Yeah or Div 1!

[auto]

or how many push ups we did at training.

[Pidge]

or how many push ups we did at training.

Thats 1 reason why I dont play footy and then it gets introduced to cricket.

[The Junior]

or how many push ups we did at training.

Thats 1 reason why I dont play footy and then it gets introduced to cricket.

Who is going to win the flag in each Division???

[Phantom Gossiper]

To be perfectly honest i think this has all been blown way out, im not sure i want to reply to hatchetts comments for fear of fueling this saga even further...

However..

Being the "ill-informed, over opinionated, superstar, blah blah blah" you say i am well then it would surely be a great disappointment to you if i didnt so here i go..

[Phantom Gossiper]

It would seem that once again your ignorance preceeds you . I think you have highlighted this by commented on presumption not fact once again . I assure you that this is not Mick nor would he even be aware of my opinion regarding you . However I am sure in time you will be aware of who this is , having said that you will probably make many more reflex assumptions . Regarding your reference to the C grade selection it is clear you do not possess the ability to think before you pass comment . Once again I will give you information that is based on fact not your over inflated ego . These are the ages of the team members 51 , 50 , 47 ,46 , 44 , 43 , 43 , 42 , 38 , 37 with an injection of youth with a 31 year old recently becoming part of the team . I will let you work out the age average as im sure you would be very adept at working out averages . I think it would be fair to say they have paid thier dues over the years and are entitled to play in Div 5 especially considering several players cant train due to work commitments . As for your comments on the B grade you obviously had another reflex assumption . The side is full of youth and my belief is they will get better in the future , which is more likely to happen in a higher standard of cricket . Clearly the senior citizens from the C grade are not the ones to bolster the stocks . However having said that maybe we would not be in such a position if superstars like yourself had remained at the club . As for the offer of the beer this is not Mick and think I will have to decline your offer as I couldnt bare to hear you tell me how good you are .

Ok i apologise i did jump the gun, how does this pass as ignorance?

WTF!?! I cant believe you wrote that! Your first
post on here was all about team mates and being united, camaradarie and fun etc etc in a mediocre social cricket
competition. You then come out and say you have "paid your dues"?

Your not playing for Australia, your not being paid, its not a service to your country. You choose to come out each week, pay the fees, play the game of your own accord and suddenly you feel that you are "owed" something? Dont you think thats a fraction selfish on your behalf?

I believe you should only ever play for the enjoyment etc and i back your thoughts on this, i also can understand that once you reach a certain age perhaps you are best suited in the lower divs, that however was not my point to begin with.

My point is that surely whilst you have players (regardless of the age) capable of competing at a higher lever then why would you not "bolster" your stocks in the B grade?

I am a big fan of youth and the promotion of it, but you need to find the right balance, and sometimes its not the best thing to throw some kid in the deep end and tell him to swim, sometimes in the long run it can ruin them greater and not make them the player they could be. People develop at different levels and speeds and need to be dealt with individually.

Im not saying throw your entire C grade side in there, just a core group who can help these kids and vice versa the lesser capable ones would surely benefit greater in the C grade?

And dont forget i was ridiculed for my thoughts on the promotion of youth at Enfield a few years ago.

Im sorry you feel that way, if you have the social inadequacey to sustain a conversation with me in person instead of hiding behind an alias on a forum thats your problem.

[Phantom Gossiper]

So they have earned the right to stay in the same grade even if they win the grandfinal?. Is that not sandbagging?. If you just swap the personal in each team but the players stay in the same grade is that fair?. i no im not Don Bradman or Jeff Thompson but im 38 and still bust my arse to play Div 1

But surely carey18 you have "paid your dues"? How dare you play Div 1!

[Phantom Gossiper]

To Hatchett and the Enfield C grade:-

Good luck with your finals campaign.

Thats all i have to say to you, end of discussion..

[Phantom Gossiper]

To clearify, if wasn't understood earlier - the B grade side will support the A grade side, to do so they will need to be in a division that is competetive, which will ease them into any A grade venture. The current crop of C graders will have no influence on the A grade team, they are playing for fun and fun only. Therefore, even if the C grade is promoted and the B grade is demoted, the personel in each division will most likely remain the same, thus the B grade will remain in Div 4 and the C grade in Div 5.

I understand what you are saying but im not talking about these blokes playing A grade, im talking about a few of them helping with the development of the younger ones to help make the transition easier.

Dont forget Enfield is Div 3,4,5 so not a massive gap between grades.

And as for playing for fun and fun only are you saying that they wont have fun or enjoy themselves in another side at the SAME CLUB?!?

[carey18]

Mate cricket owes me nothing. Its about having pride in myself as a player and testing my ability against the best this comp throws up. Remember cream rises to the top my friend

[carey]

Mate cricket owes me nothing. Its about having pride in myself as a player and testing my ability against the best this comp throws up. Remember cream rises to the top my friend

well lets hope were all creaming sat.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Mate cricket owes me nothing. Its about having pride in myself as a player and testing my ability against the best this comp throws up. Remember cream rises to the top my friend

well lets hope were all creaming sat.

Sounds a bit sexual carey haha

[carey]

Mate cricket owes me nothing. Its about having pride in myself as a player and testing my ability against the best this comp throws up. Remember cream rises to the top my friend

well lets hope were all creaming sat.

Sounds a bit sexual carey haha

well that also could be fun! hahahaha

captain has to go first hey?????

[Phantom Gossiper]

Mate cricket owes me nothing. Its about having pride in myself as a player and testing my ability against the best this comp throws up. Remember cream rises to the top my friend

well lets hope were all creaming sat.

Sounds a bit sexual carey haha

well that also could be fun! hahahaha

captain has to go first hey?????

I guess thats how you roll, just get it done down there!

[Mr. Green]

An observation that can be made here is that the Enfield C grade is a team that plays for fun and beers at the end. This would be like every other club. The comment Hatchett made about the age of the C grade clearly shows a team that has past their prime and care for the simple things in life, I’m sure a premiership flag is just a bonus. The Enfield B grade appears to have struggled this year, the MyCricket website see’s them sitting as the wooden spooners for Div 4 this is unfortunate. However the purpose of this team was to introduce new talent, and ready them for any appearances in the A grade side. The B grade is in essence is a reserve side for the A grade side. This has been very successful as at least 5 B graders have made appearances in the A grade this season for Enfield, some of which have held their position. The structure of the club appears to be one which promotes youth (the future of the club), this structure has been adopted by many other clubs also. I cannot understand the bickering about this issue, and I hope my opinion can clear a few things up. With Enfield having a strongly performing C grade and under performing B grade, many people have suggested the B grade should be placed in a lower division, however MyCricket shows the B grade bottom, which will most likely mean demotion next season, however the C grade is currently good odds for the premiership, which could mean promotion, if this is the case, the teams will most likely stay the same, and remain in the same divisions next year. Finally Enfield isn’t the only club with this issue, if it can be called that, for example Fitzroy A grade had a competitive season, as did the C grade, the B grade however struggled. This is just the way the cookie crumbles in cricket my friends, and hopefully this issue can finally be put to bed.

which means next year b grade go down and c grade go up so the so the c grade will be playing in a higher div than b grade dusnt make much sense to me

To clearify, if wasn't understood earlier - the B grade side will support the A grade side, to do so they will need to be in a division that is competetive, which will ease them into any A grade venture. The current crop of C graders will have no influence on the A grade team, they are playing for fun and fun only. Therefore, even if the C grade is promoted and the B grade is demoted, the personel in each division will most likely remain the same, thus the B grade will remain in Div 4 and the C grade in Div 5.

So they have earned the right to stay in the same grade even if they win the grandfinal?. Is that not sandbagging?. If you just swap the personal in each team but the players stay in the same grade is that fair?. i no im not Don Bradman or Jeff Thompson but im 38 and still bust my arse to play Div 1

The B grade stocks will be stronger next year, however the relative core of the teams will remain the same i believe, this season a number of new-comers joined the club (of varying ability), however most knew each other. The club fitted these newcomers together to help them settle into the club, and the club has also tried to keep fairly consistant teams throughout the season, therefore everyone knows their roles. I know what its like joining a new club, its daunting even moreso if you are thrown into a team and know no-one and you tend to stay in the shadows. The B grade has improved out of sight, and as a result, as i mentioned in one of my earlier posts, atleast 5 B graders have been promoted into the A grade side, in which 3 will be playing for the A grade in the finals due to their hard work. The structure this year will most likely be modified next year, and we will most likely see competative sides in all divisions. This years B side was of course young, however they have learnt a lot of skills, and have been competative in some of their games, and also winning a couple. They have felt comfortable playing with the people they know best, and now they have settled into the club, some tweaking can be made next season to balance the teams more so. Hopefully some more new comers will join next year, and some important players recover from injuries, giving the team's a lot more depth, this will go a long way in a successful year for Enfield next year, (especially if the A's make Div 2).

[carey18]

Sounds like you are heading in the right direction with the club. Good luck over the next couple of seasons. Hope it all works out

[Hatchett]

You really have exceeded a much higher level of ingnorance than first anticipated , which might I add will only serve to inspire me . I will type slowly and hopefully as a consequence you may grasp something . My original point was pertaining to remarks made by yourself regarding people you dont know much less understand . I take exception and am affronted by them . If am guilty of adhering to my mates when someone cast aspersions and attempts to besmirch thier character then I possess more loyalty than yourself . I strongly suggest that as an alternative to remarking on our backyard its advisable you concentrate on you own , although having said that this must be a difficult task considering there have been 3 changes of address in little more than a year and rumour has it is in ( NEGOTIATION ) for the 4th . Faced with the same scenario I believe I would be focusing on myself if I felt the need to abandon people so frequently . In an attempt to put it in perspective for you I have played sport for over 35 years on and off yet have only played for 2 clubs 1 being footy , in the process have forged many life long friendships and acquired a sense of belonging to which I am grateful for . In relation to having a discussion regarding point of view I believe that would be futile as I would not submit to your bombastic opinions and furthermore would not tolerate them . As for hiding I assure you I am a man of my convictions and will stand by them irrelevent of potential consequences . I would advise you to quit while you are behind and be carefull what you wish for !!!!!

[matty beam feltus]

You really have exceeded a much higher level of ingnorance than first anticipated , which might I add will only serve to inspire me . I will type slowly and hopefully as a consequence you may grasp something . My original point was pertaining to remarks made by yourself regarding people you dont know much less understand . I take exception and am affronted by them . If am guilty of adhering to my mates when someone cast aspersions and attempts to besmirch thier character then I possess more loyalty than yourself . I strongly suggest that as an alternative to remarking on our backyard its advisable you concentrate on you own , although having said that this must be a difficult task considering there have been 3 changes of address in little more than a year and rumour has it is in ( NEGOTIATION ) for the 4th . Faced with the same scenario I believe I would be focusing on myself if I felt the need to abandon people so frequently . In an attempt to put it in perspective for you I have played sport for over 35 years on and off yet have only played for 2 clubs 1 being footy , in the process have forged many life long friendships and acquired a sense of belonging to which I am grateful for . In relation to having a discussion regarding point of view I believe that would be futile as I would not submit to your bombastic opinions and furthermore would not tolerate them . As for hiding I assure you I am a man of my convictions and will stand by them irrelevent of potential consequences . I would advise you to quit while you are behind and be carefull what you wish for !!!!!

carey 18 has hit the nail on the head busting his arse to play div 1 the best that this comp has to throw at it, playing with mates is fair enough. but fair dinkum are these guys anti social you telling me they cant make mates in another grade man when i was 10 years old i moved to a new school and made new friends it aint that hard. as for yiou playing in the same club for 35 years bravo you must have a thick skin , cause when i played at enfield people were asked to play higher grades and they said i will only play up there if my mates do in my opinion its a huge problem this association faces hense why i am going abroad next season they may aswell do away with div 1 div 2 a grade bgrade and so on and put players in grades judgeing on how good of a mate they are ppffffft please.

[matty beam feltus]

This is only the church league. We are only mediocre (at best) cricketers.

Then why complain about playing against Nitschke, Mann and Falcinella if they are only mediocre?

especially when all 3 of them have played more cricket in this grade this season than frick

So where else would you want us to play Fricky if he isn't selected in our A Grade's first Xl..?!?? Bizarre!!

By the way, some hilarious repartee being bandied about amongst the current and ex-Enfield'ers!!! "Like sands through the hourglass.......these are the Days of Our Lives.."..

Who let you on here Feltus??

goat herder i know who you are now your that guy that once tripped over that bloke (tripped) and got your clumsy arssse ran out hahaha

[matty beam feltus]

auto, i have some thoughts about whom you may be, if you are who i believe you to be then i would no doubt place you in my top 5 bats in the assoc..

giggs????

is it cuzzy ??