SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

[Phantom Gossiper]

Carey are you saying that there may be some bad apples at Vista who are behind this move? I really think everyone at Rose park respects Mark and wish him nothing but the best. I'm sure they wouldn't treat there own like this. Or where Rose Park behind it! Im confused!
k

I'll say what everyone is thinking and tip toeing around and that is I think the entire executive are to blame but Im convinced their are others involved as well. Definately a PV flavour to this though.

[powerport]

Carey are you saying that there may be some bad apples at Vista who are behind this move? I really think everyone at Rose park respects Mark and wish him nothing but the best. I'm sure they wouldn't treat there own like this. Or where Rose Park behind it! Im confused!
k

I'll say what everyone is thinking and tip toeing around and that is I think the entire executive are to blame but Im convinced their are others involved as well. Definately a PV flavour to this though.

who is OB?

[Phantom Gossiper]

Ian Amey - too old, way out of touch with not only the game but with the very assoc he governs
Peter Taylor - thought he was a good bloke.
Andrew Loffler - Who? This muppet has been on the executive for ever ... aaaand has brought what to the table?
Ian Kinsman - Another ancient living in the past and out of touch with proceedings. Have heard he helped with the mass exodus from Morialta a few years ago..
Glenys Phillips - Mother of a Div 3 player knowledge of cricket/business etc?
Michael Johns - Useless mug who plays in the dregs of the competition, gutless coward and happy to take credit for the good but not the bad.
Peter O'Brien - PV coach and apparently friend of Weinert who spent the past couple of years in close liason with him assisting him..

Amey, Loffler, Kinsman, Philllips - all have been in their roles for far too long! Considering the association has been in decline for a while I cant believe that they have remained safe in their positions!?!

Move aside old timers.. put in more capable and forward thinking people!!

[Phantom Gossiper]

who is OB?

Peter O'Brien - Para Vista coach, Executive member and I believe was the manager for the carnival side the other year?

[bored]

What is most disgracefull about this decision is the process and lack of professionalism the executive took. Nothing short of cowardly - but thats to be expected given their history and the members who are on the executive, its like the "whose who of those who cant even run their own club".
Lack of finance and costing may very well be a valid reason, but sending a semi-professional, more social-like email out of the blue informing of the decision without offering any right of reply or even infact solid reasoning behind the decision shows how cowardly, inept & lacking of integrity the executive is.
I cant believe the SAMCA allows this competition to even be a recognised association still! It's run like a back yard social comp and run by a bunch of muppets whose average age is matched only by its collective IQ

And as for the reason of lack of finance pffft f@#K me

Was any player asked to pay more??? NO. we wernt and i bet you anything you like we all would.

Was Mark asked to pay his own way?? NO. and the love he has for the association and game he would've.

Was this 'finance reason' an easy way out for the truth that there is a hidden agenda by someone or more than one to get where they want to be?? IMO YES

So are you saying he wasn't even offered the chance to pay his own way?
Surely there is some foul play here. You don't just wake up and sack a coach who is loved by all his players because u cant afford to send him away!
The truth will come out

he wasnt offered a chance to pay and neither were the players that have been approached already. I am sure that any of the players picked would be happy to pay a bit extra to make sure the coach goes as well.

its all complete BS if you ask me, and as i said on FB already, if Mark isnt going im not putting my hand up. no big loss for that im sure, but i doubt i would be the only one that feels the same way.

[Phantom Gossiper]

its all complete BS if you ask me, and as i said on FB already, if Mark isnt going im not putting my hand up. no big loss for that im sure, but i doubt i would be the only one that feels the same way.

Hmm actually raises the question - without a coach who will select the team? Who will approach the players? How can you expect anyone to want to play for someone they dont have a rapport or relationship with? Imgaine Ian Amey or Andrew Loffler turning up and asking you to play in the side? BAHAHAHAHA!! It would be like "Sorry who the **** are you?!? Na sorry mate I dont talk to strangers"

[hotpies]

who is OB?

Peter O'Brien - Para Vista coach, Executive member and I believe was the manager for the carnival side the other year?

Did OB go and watch Vista on sat mate? For the time i was there i didn't see anyone sitting where they set up?

[hotpies]

its all complete BS if you ask me, and as i said on FB already, if Mark isnt going im not putting my hand up. no big loss for that im sure, but i doubt i would be the only one that feels the same way.

Hmm actually raises the question - without a coach who will select the team? Who will approach the players? How can you expect anyone to want to play for someone they dont have a rapport or relationship with? Imgaine Ian Amey or Andrew Loffler turning up and asking you to play in the side? BAHAHAHAHA!! It would be like "Sorry who the **** are you?!? Na sorry mate I dont talk to strangers"

Will Peter Obrien just take over then if he is team Manager? Bit rough you getting the chop and a mate takes over for no reason what so ever!

[powerport]

its all complete BS if you ask me, and as i said on FB already, if Mark isnt going im not putting my hand up. no big loss for that im sure, but i doubt i would be the only one that feels the same way.

Hmm actually raises the question - without a coach who will select the team? Who will approach the players? How can you expect anyone to want to play for someone they dont have a rapport or relationship with? Imgaine Ian Amey or Andrew Loffler turning up and asking you to play in the side? BAHAHAHAHA!! It would be like "Sorry who the **** are you?!? Na sorry mate I dont talk to strangers"

Will Peter Obrien just take over then if he is team Manager? Bit rough you getting the chop and a mate takes over for no reason what so ever!

and the light goes on!

[hotpies]

its all complete BS if you ask me, and as i said on FB already, if Mark isnt going im not putting my hand up. no big loss for that im sure, but i doubt i would be the only one that feels the same way.

Hmm actually raises the question - without a coach who will select the team? Who will approach the players? How can you expect anyone to want to play for someone they dont have a rapport or relationship with? Imgaine Ian Amey or Andrew Loffler turning up and asking you to play in the side? BAHAHAHAHA!! It would be like "Sorry who the **** are you?!? Na sorry mate I dont talk to strangers"

Will Peter Obrien just take over then if he is team Manager? Bit rough you getting the chop and a mate takes over for no reason what so ever!

and the light goes on!

Well the mail i got is that 2 blokes are already in line for the coaching and team manager role for the carnival. Both are supposed to be mates of Marks and one even planted the seeds a few meetings ago by jumping up and down and shit canning his so called mate.
I hope my mail is wrong but i guess time will tell. If these two blokes are mates and tied up with the club you have played for and supported through thick and thin, i would hate to see what enemies do!

[Goat Herder]

[Cougar]

As the association captain of the last 4 years i will open with the fact I'm in total shock, disapointment and I'm just totally dumbfounded by this decision in general, The timing of the decision, The reasoning of the decision and the way the decision was passed on to Mark.

Over the past 4 years i have seen Mark put countless hours in to Trainings, Games and get togethers for the association side out of pure love of the game, the group and the association. I dont think people actually realise how much time and effort goes in to putting this side on the park people really dont! And to add to all this this i wont go in to detail but Mark has had health issues, family issues and work issues along the road yet always was there with a smile on his face helping us as a group to try and get where we want to be.

I'm sure you could ask anyone who has recently been involved in the association side the pride and passion Mark puts in to it i remember the wins against Para Districts and ASCA in particaual it was like he was watching his sons play he was so proud of the group and that earned him the respect no end of the group and speaks high volumes of the bloke.

I'll close by saying in my time in cricket Mark is one of the blokes that has taught me the most about the game the mindset behind the game and especially about captaincy and leadership to which Mark has shown faith in me to do so and i thank him very much for his support over the journey we've had, Although there was countless crap on here in regard to Marks decisions in selection and the like from people with no idea to what is actually going on.

I hope the assocaition comes to its senses and reappoints the man who has given so much and taken so little in return

Why would this decision be made and brought to light half way through the grand finals? where we should be praising Rose Park for hitting 250 in the GF and debating will PV run it down?

The timimg itself probably speaks volumes of the assocaition I'm sure Rose Park would be loving this attention all on PV

Yep I too am a bit baffled about the decision and the timing of it. I came from a comp, where association volunteers are a rare breed and you hang onto whoever you can get. I witnessed first hand last year the professionalism Wino as coach and OB as Team Manager did for the playing group. Hell, I even saw the man shed a tear for a fellow player, and you won't see any more passion than that for a rep side. And why would you take the gloss off Rose Park's first Div 1 Premiership or Para Vista's great run chase for it's 5th flag in a row?

Bored, Riddler's mob have a trial on Sunday, so now doubt will be there giving you some advice on how to bat come Saturday. I think Cuz stuck you on the fence next to them, as you're probably the only bloke in the comp without an angry bone in your body. If he sent the Hulk down he'd just turn green, although they probably know better than that, as the Hulk's gf's bro is mixed up with MLFC

[Goat Herder]

Geez, lots of support guys, I'm overwhelmed.

Let's just say I have spoken with a great friend of mine, who I have nothing but the utmost respect for and is on the Exec. He has been filled in on a number of things that weren't communicated to the Exec and obviously weren't factored into this decision. He knows how I feel. I greatly appreciate his brutal honesty. At season's end, we will catch up and have a chat about this and I'm confident the right decision will be made and we'll move forward. In the meantime, you lads know who he is, his email address is attached to the email and he's expecting to see his inbox filling a tad..

Rest assured I haven't thrown in the towel. I volunteer my time for the blokes who want to put their hand up to play rep cricket and challenge themselves at the next level, not for some of these muppets who supposedly make the decisions - some of whom have never even attended a rep match, training, or even bothered to put their hand up to help out. The support from my lads is what matters to me, which is why I will fight for the right decision to be made, and one in which will facilitate the best team trotting out onto the paddock, into the right team environment and upholding the culture & respect for each other I've worked my ass off to help create!

Do not prod the angry bear unless you're prepared to deal with the aftermath.

[bored]

Bored, Riddler's mob have a trial on Sunday, so now doubt will be there giving you some advice on how to bat come Saturday. I think Cuz stuck you on the fence next to them, as you're probably the only bloke in the comp without an angry bone in your body. If he sent the Hulk down he'd just turn green, although they probably know better than that, as the Hulk's gf's bro is mixed up with MLFC

i was just going to mention to the Hulk that the guy was a washing machine with clothes on and let him go to work

was all in good fun anyway, they werent saying anything too bad and i must admit i did have a bit of a smile when i got to throw the ball back into tarcs right next to the stumps from the boundary... kinda shut him up for a sec

[powerport]

Geez, lots of support guys, I'm overwhelmed.

Let's just say I have spoken with a great friend of mine, who I have nothing but the utmost respect for and is on the Exec. He has been filled in on a number of things that weren't communicated to the Exec and obviously weren't factored into this decision. He knows how I feel. I greatly appreciate his brutal honesty. At season's end, we will catch up and have a chat about this and I'm confident the right decision will be made and we'll move forward. In the meantime, you lads know who he is, his email address is attached to the email and he's expecting to see his inbox filling a tad..

Rest assured I haven't thrown in the towel. I volunteer my time for the blokes who want to put their hand up to play rep cricket and challenge themselves at the next level, not for some of these muppets who supposedly make the decisions - some of whom have never even attended a rep match, training, or even bothered to put their hand up to help out. The support from my lads is what matters to me, which is why I will fight for the right decision to be made, and one in which will facilitate the best team trotting out onto the paddock, into the right team environment and upholding the culture & respect for each other I've worked my ass off to help create!

Do not prod the angry bear unless you're prepared to deal with the aftermath.

well for those who didnt get this so called email, who is he, if he is to be respected and he is on the exec committee, who is he?

[Goat Herder]

Geez, lots of support guys, I'm overwhelmed.

Let's just say I have spoken with a great friend of mine, who I have nothing but the utmost respect for and is on the Exec. He has been filled in on a number of things that weren't communicated to the Exec and obviously weren't factored into this decision. He knows how I feel. I greatly appreciate his brutal honesty. At season's end, we will catch up and have a chat about this and I'm confident the right decision will be made and we'll move forward. In the meantime, you lads know who he is, his email address is attached to the email and he's expecting to see his inbox filling a tad..

Rest assured I haven't thrown in the towel. I volunteer my time for the blokes who want to put their hand up to play rep cricket and challenge themselves at the next level, not for some of these muppets who supposedly make the decisions - some of whom have never even attended a rep match, training, or even bothered to put their hand up to help out. The support from my lads is what matters to me, which is why I will fight for the right decision to be made, and one in which will facilitate the best team trotting out onto the paddock, into the right team environment and upholding the culture & respect for each other I've worked my ass off to help create!

Do not prod the angry bear unless you're prepared to deal with the aftermath.

well for those who didnt get this so called email, who is he, if he is to be respected and he is on the exec committee, who is he?

It's Peter Taylor. He is a champion bloke, possesses a lot of integrity and he most certainly is to be respected.

[powerport]

Geez, lots of support guys, I'm overwhelmed.

Let's just say I have spoken with a great friend of mine, who I have nothing but the utmost respect for and is on the Exec. He has been filled in on a number of things that weren't communicated to the Exec and obviously weren't factored into this decision. He knows how I feel. I greatly appreciate his brutal honesty. At season's end, we will catch up and have a chat about this and I'm confident the right decision will be made and we'll move forward. In the meantime, you lads know who he is, his email address is attached to the email and he's expecting to see his inbox filling a tad..

Rest assured I haven't thrown in the towel. I volunteer my time for the blokes who want to put their hand up to play rep cricket and challenge themselves at the next level, not for some of these muppets who supposedly make the decisions - some of whom have never even attended a rep match, training, or even bothered to put their hand up to help out. The support from my lads is what matters to me, which is why I will fight for the right decision to be made, and one in which will facilitate the best team trotting out onto the paddock, into the right team environment and upholding the culture & respect for each other I've worked my ass off to help create!

Do not prod the angry bear unless you're prepared to deal with the aftermath.

well for those who didnt get this so called email, who is he, if he is to be respected and he is on the exec committee, who is he?

It's Peter Taylor. He is a champion bloke, possesses a lot of integrity and he most certainly is to be respected.

thankyou, no idea who he is but for the benefit of the more involved players and that in the assoc, this guy on the exec is a guy that can be trusted given what you have said

[powerport]

Geez, lots of support guys, I'm overwhelmed.

Let's just say I have spoken with a great friend of mine, who I have nothing but the utmost respect for and is on the Exec. He has been filled in on a number of things that weren't communicated to the Exec and obviously weren't factored into this decision. He knows how I feel. I greatly appreciate his brutal honesty. At season's end, we will catch up and have a chat about this and I'm confident the right decision will be made and we'll move forward. In the meantime, you lads know who he is, his email address is attached to the email and he's expecting to see his inbox filling a tad..

Rest assured I haven't thrown in the towel. I volunteer my time for the blokes who want to put their hand up to play rep cricket and challenge themselves at the next level, not for some of these muppets who supposedly make the decisions - some of whom have never even attended a rep match, training, or even bothered to put their hand up to help out. The support from my lads is what matters to me, which is why I will fight for the right decision to be made, and one in which will facilitate the best team trotting out onto the paddock, into the right team environment and upholding the culture & respect for each other I've worked my ass off to help create!

Do not prod the angry bear unless you're prepared to deal with the aftermath.

doesnt make sense why this decision could not wait until after all of the Grand Finals......

you should just deal with this after this saturday, go out and support your team (Para Vista right?), like you have showed your support for the association, go out and support the club you have played for and love and get behind the captain and the team try and fire the guys up before the game, then deal with this other sh*t next week when the season is officially over?

[Goat Herder]

I have faith he can steer this Association in the right path, he just needs the support of "do'ers" and people with vision & innovation, not people who are in positions to fill numbers. As Forrest Gump says, "That's all I have to say 'bout thaaat!"..

[Goat Herder]

doesnt make sense why this decision could not wait until after all of the Grand Finals......

you should just deal with this after this saturday, go out and support your team (Para Vista right?), like you have showed your support for the association, go out and support the club you have played for and love and get behind the captain and the team try and fire the guys up before the game, then deal with this other sh*t next week when the season is officially over?

Because the season has officially 1 more playing day left in it, and the departing President was obviously anointed as the fall guy.

In any case, I will be out there and support the Club I love. Life goes on.