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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:33 pm

hotpies wrote:Ok Phantom im starting to get a bit worried that we are getting along and agreeing on things.
This is a classic case of someone backstabbing someone to get what they want. I sure hope it wasn't a friend

:lol: :lol: It is a worry isnt it!!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:35 pm

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hotpies wrote:Ok Phantom im starting to get a bit worried that we are getting along and agreeing on things.
This is a classic case of someone backstabbing someone to get what they want. I sure hope it wasn't a friend

:lol: :lol: It is a worry isnt it!!

Next you will be saying that 247 is enough to win a grand final. Before you say it is a postage stamp, ask your mate Dutchy as he was surprised Sat when he saw the size
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Oxygen Thief » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:35 pm

think you guys are getting a bit carried away.
Ob told me only, in confidence because after all i am the club pres.
I told no one else.
He also said he was getting emailed on sunday. The next day.

Guess when i was told i was hoping that Tige would come to his senses and realise
his mistake. Giving him a chance to re-neg. If i had told him before that he would not
have had that opportunity.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:44 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:Guess when i was told i was hoping that Tige would come to his senses and realise
his mistake
. Giving him a chance to re-neg. If i had told him before that he would not
have had that opportunity.

HIS mistake? No doubt he has played his part in this but come on this ISNT a single person decision, this is an executive decision, meaning they are ALL responsible!
Shoving the blame wholey and solely on one bloke is disgracefull and cowardly..

Seems to me that Tige is the scape goat here and reading his email I almost feel like he is willing and this is a scheming plan from all involved so they dont have to feel guilty and deal with the backlash and come out looking like the unknown innocent good guys. Is it any suprise that Tige announces in the email he is ending his involvement with the comp not 2 lines before giving Wino the bad news?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Oxygen Thief » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:52 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Oxygen Thief wrote:Guess when i was told i was hoping that Tige would come to his senses and realise
his mistake
. Giving him a chance to re-neg. If i had told him before that he would not
have had that opportunity.

HIS mistake? No doubt he has played his part in this but come on this ISNT a single person decision, this is an executive decision, meaning they are ALL responsible!
Shoving the blame wholey and solely on one bloke is disgracefull and cowardly..

Seems to me that Tige is the scape goat here and reading his email I almost feel like he is willing and this is a scheming plan from all involved so they dont have to feel guilty and deal with the backlash and come out looking like the unknown innocent good guys. Is it any suprise that Tige announces in the email he is ending his involvement with the comp not 2 lines before giving Wino the bad news?

PG in the last page you have attacked me as backstabbing a friend and being a part of the whole drama. It is nothing to do with me. Now you are accusing me of shoving the blame soley on one person? I agree its the whole exec. responsible but if Tige believed they were wrong then he should be the one to stand up and say so, he is the pres. after all.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:57 pm

As the association captain of the last 4 years i will open with the fact I'm in total shock, disapointment and I'm just totally dumbfounded by this decision in general, The timing of the decision, The reasoning of the decision and the way the decision was passed on to Mark.

Over the past 4 years i have seen Mark put countless hours in to Trainings, Games and get togethers for the association side out of pure love of the game, the group and the association. I dont think people actually realise how much time and effort goes in to putting this side on the park people really dont! And to add to all this this i wont go in to detail but Mark has had health issues, family issues and work issues along the road yet always was there with a smile on his face helping us as a group to try and get where we want to be.

I'm sure you could ask anyone who has recently been involved in the association side the pride and passion Mark puts in to it i remember the wins against Para Districts and ASCA in particaual it was like he was watching his sons play he was so proud of the group and that earned him the respect no end of the group and speaks high volumes of the bloke.

I'll close by saying in my time in cricket Mark is one of the blokes that has taught me the most about the game the mindset behind the game and especially about captaincy and leadership to which Mark has shown faith in me to do so and i thank him very much for his support over the journey we've had, Although there was countless crap on here in regard to Marks decisions in selection and the like from people with no idea to what is actually going on.

I hope the assocaition comes to its senses and reappoints the man who has given so much and taken so little in return
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:59 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:PG in the last page you have attacked me as backstabbing a friend and being a part of the whole drama. It is nothing to do with me. Now you are accusing me of shoving the blame soley on one person? I agree its the whole exec. responsible but if Tige believed they were wrong then he should be the one to stand up and say so, he is the pres. after all.
I thought you knew me better than that.

I - like everyone else - are still trying to make sense of the whole thing.
As for thinking I knew you better than that.. well i'm sure Mark thought he knew those involved better than he did! Just shows you dont know who to trust..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:04 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:What is most disgracefull about this decision is the process and lack of professionalism the executive took. Nothing short of cowardly - but thats to be expected given their history and the members who are on the executive, its like the "whose who of those who cant even run their own club".
Lack of finance and costing may very well be a valid reason, but sending a semi-professional, more social-like email out of the blue informing of the decision without offering any right of reply or even infact solid reasoning behind the decision shows how cowardly, inept & lacking of integrity the executive is.
I cant believe the SAMCA allows this competition to even be a recognised association still! It's run like a back yard social comp and run by a bunch of muppets whose average age is matched only by its collective IQ


And as for the reason of lack of finance pffft f@#K me :roll:

Was any player asked to pay more??? NO. we wernt and i bet you anything you like we all would.

Was Mark asked to pay his own way?? NO. and the love he has for the association and game he would've.

Was this 'finance reason' an easy way out for the truth that there is a hidden agenda by someone or more than one to get where they want to be?? IMO YES
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:05 pm

carey wrote:Was this 'finance reason' an easy way out for the truth that there is a hidden agenda by someone or more than one to get where they want to be?? IMO YES

No doubt! Just shows how cowardly and piss weak they are and im more than certain that they are using Tige as the scapegoat to hide behind..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:06 pm

carey wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:What is most disgracefull about this decision is the process and lack of professionalism the executive took. Nothing short of cowardly - but thats to be expected given their history and the members who are on the executive, its like the "whose who of those who cant even run their own club".
Lack of finance and costing may very well be a valid reason, but sending a semi-professional, more social-like email out of the blue informing of the decision without offering any right of reply or even infact solid reasoning behind the decision shows how cowardly, inept & lacking of integrity the executive is.
I cant believe the SAMCA allows this competition to even be a recognised association still! It's run like a back yard social comp and run by a bunch of muppets whose average age is matched only by its collective IQ


And as for the reason of lack of finance pffft f@#K me :roll:

Was any player asked to pay more??? NO. we wernt and i bet you anything you like we all would.

Was Mark asked to pay his own way?? NO. and the love he has for the association and game he would've.

Was this 'finance reason' an easy way out for the truth that there is a hidden agenda by someone or more than one to get where they want to be?? IMO YES

So are you saying he wasn't even offered the chance to pay his own way?
Surely there is some foul play here. You don't just wake up and sack a coach who is loved by all his players because u cant afford to send him away!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:07 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
carey wrote:Was this 'finance reason' an easy way out for the truth that there is a hidden agenda by someone or more than one to get where they want to be?? IMO YES

No doubt! Just shows how cowardly and piss weak they are and im more than certain that they are using Tige as the scapegoat to hide behind..

Pretty easy to use a guy who is also leaving at seasons end!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Wizard of Oz » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:07 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:LOL just thinking.. does anyone remember the former assoc coach? Bob Lisle? HAHAHA!! What a waste of time and space he was! Seen him if lucky once a year, attended the odd training session but never ran one, but was quick to brag how he was involved with Southern Districts!
Hmm actually sounds a lot like the exec come to think of it - rarely seen, egotistical and retarded


Absolutely... He, Johnny McTier and Graeme Tscharke.....Vintage stuff.

I remember a phone call from Tscharke as a young fella one night out of nowhere trying to get me to Para Vista. I was shocked.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:07 pm

hotpies wrote:
carey wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:What is most disgracefull about this decision is the process and lack of professionalism the executive took. Nothing short of cowardly - but thats to be expected given their history and the members who are on the executive, its like the "whose who of those who cant even run their own club".
Lack of finance and costing may very well be a valid reason, but sending a semi-professional, more social-like email out of the blue informing of the decision without offering any right of reply or even infact solid reasoning behind the decision shows how cowardly, inept & lacking of integrity the executive is.
I cant believe the SAMCA allows this competition to even be a recognised association still! It's run like a back yard social comp and run by a bunch of muppets whose average age is matched only by its collective IQ


And as for the reason of lack of finance pffft f@#K me :roll:

Was any player asked to pay more??? NO. we wernt and i bet you anything you like we all would.

Was Mark asked to pay his own way?? NO. and the love he has for the association and game he would've.

Was this 'finance reason' an easy way out for the truth that there is a hidden agenda by someone or more than one to get where they want to be?? IMO YES

So are you saying he wasn't even offered the chance to pay his own way?
Surely there is some foul play here. You don't just wake up and sack a coach who is loved by all his players because u cant afford to send him away!
The truth will come out


I hope it does sooner rather than later. Just doesnt make sence to me at all.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:11 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Absolutely... He, Johnny McTier and Graeme Tscharke.....Vintage stuff.

I remember a phone call from Tscharke as a young fella one night out of nowhere trying to get me to Para Vista. I was shocked.

:lol: :lol: I remember my 1st season as a captain against Happy Valley and one of the young bowlers in my side who was 17 at the time suggested to McTier it was probably time for his scones & afternoon nap... Nearly ended in an all in brawl with the old man and he filed a report against me and half my team :lol:

Was funny at the tribunal hearing when they asked him what happened... "He told me it was time to eat my scones and have a nana nap" .... the reply "Is that it? :? "
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:11 pm

carey wrote:As the association captain of the last 4 years i will open with the fact I'm in total shock, disapointment and I'm just totally dumbfounded by this decision in general, The timing of the decision, The reasoning of the decision and the way the decision was passed on to Mark.

Over the past 4 years i have seen Mark put countless hours in to Trainings, Games and get togethers for the association side out of pure love of the game, the group and the association. I dont think people actually realise how much time and effort goes in to putting this side on the park people really dont! And to add to all this this i wont go in to detail but Mark has had health issues, family issues and work issues along the road yet always was there with a smile on his face helping us as a group to try and get where we want to be.

I'm sure you could ask anyone who has recently been involved in the association side the pride and passion Mark puts in to it i remember the wins against Para Districts and ASCA in particaual it was like he was watching his sons play he was so proud of the group and that earned him the respect no end of the group and speaks high volumes of the bloke.

I'll close by saying in my time in cricket Mark is one of the blokes that has taught me the most about the game the mindset behind the game and especially about captaincy and leadership to which Mark has shown faith in me to do so and i thank him very much for his support over the journey we've had, Although there was countless crap on here in regard to Marks decisions in selection and the like from people with no idea to what is actually going on.

I hope the assocaition comes to its senses and reappoints the man who has given so much and taken so little in return


Why would this decision be made and brought to light half way through the grand finals? where we should be praising Rose Park for hitting 250 in the GF and debating will PV run it down?

The timimg itself probably speaks volumes of the assocaition I'm sure Rose Park would be loving this attention all on PV
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Wizard of Oz » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:13 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:Absolutely... He, Johnny McTier and Graeme Tscharke.....Vintage stuff.

I remember a phone call from Tscharke as a young fella one night out of nowhere trying to get me to Para Vista. I was shocked.

:lol: :lol: I remember my 1st season as a captain against Happy Valley and one of the young bowlers in my side who was 17 at the time suggested to McTier it was probably time for his scones & afternoon nap... Nearly ended in an all in brawl with the old man and he filed a report against me and half my team :lol:

Was funny at the tribunal hearing when they asked him what happened... "He told me it was time to eat my scones and have a nana nap" .... the reply "Is that it? :? "


LOL.... Believe it or not....took an absolute hanger against us....Horizontal to the ground in mid air with his white hair flowing. :lol:
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:15 pm

carey wrote:
carey wrote:As the association captain of the last 4 years i will open with the fact I'm in total shock, disapointment and I'm just totally dumbfounded by this decision in general, The timing of the decision, The reasoning of the decision and the way the decision was passed on to Mark.

Over the past 4 years i have seen Mark put countless hours in to Trainings, Games and get togethers for the association side out of pure love of the game, the group and the association. I dont think people actually realise how much time and effort goes in to putting this side on the park people really dont! And to add to all this this i wont go in to detail but Mark has had health issues, family issues and work issues along the road yet always was there with a smile on his face helping us as a group to try and get where we want to be.

I'm sure you could ask anyone who has recently been involved in the association side the pride and passion Mark puts in to it i remember the wins against Para Districts and ASCA in particaual it was like he was watching his sons play he was so proud of the group and that earned him the respect no end of the group and speaks high volumes of the bloke.

I'll close by saying in my time in cricket Mark is one of the blokes that has taught me the most about the game the mindset behind the game and especially about captaincy and leadership to which Mark has shown faith in me to do so and i thank him very much for his support over the journey we've had, Although there was countless crap on here in regard to Marks decisions in selection and the like from people with no idea to what is actually going on.

I hope the assocaition comes to its senses and reappoints the man who has given so much and taken so little in return


Why would this decision be made and brought to light half way through the grand finals? where we should be praising Rose Park for hitting 250 in the GF and debating will PV run it down?

The timimg itself probably speaks volumes of the assocaition I'm sure Rose Park would be loving this attention all on PV

Carey are you saying that there may be some bad apples at Vista who are behind this move? I really think everyone at Rose park respects Mark and wish him nothing but the best. I'm sure they wouldn't treat there own like this. Or where Rose Park behind it! Im confused!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:17 pm

I to am confused mate just cant get my head around this whole issue.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:19 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:LOL.... Believe it or not....took an absolute hanger against us....Horizontal to the ground in mid air with his white hair flowing. :lol:

BAHAHAHAHA!!! Was he wearing one of those old white terry toweling hats from the 1970s as well?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Wizard of Oz » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:19 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:LOL.... Believe it or not....took an absolute hanger against us....Horizontal to the ground in mid air with his white hair flowing. :lol:

BAHAHAHAHA!!! Was he wearing one of those old white terry toweling hats from the 1970s as well?


Absolutely...
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