SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:22 pm

Goat Herder wrote:
hotpies wrote:That smells of arrogance. Leave the arrogant stuff for Rose Lakes
Think the great man Goat Herder pointed out last week that someone from outside the box would step up for this game and take it by the scruff of the neck. Yes McDonald made runs and Marshall took wickets, but Steve Neal's performance was the standout Saturday


:lol: :lol: Thanks Pie Man, needed a good larf today. ;)

Spot on, Nealy batted very well. Wickets in hand is the key.

I know I'll probably get shot down here, but at the end of the day 250 is probably an easier chase that 150 in a final. 250 you know you have to play well & play shots to get there, whereas 150 you know you should get there no probs & tend to go a bit cautiously instead of playing your own game.

Great display of heart & courage by Marshall too. Fantastic spell of bowling, particularly after jagging a hammy 1st ball after tea.


Well considering your playing at "Casa Da Postage Stamp" then 250 will really feel like 150 then?!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:31 pm

Any truth to the rumour the executive have informed the association coach his services are no longer required?
Another fine example that the powers that be really have no idea on how to run this competition and all they are doing is assisting to its demise with their clear lack of knowledge, understanding, planning and segregated priorities all pulling in different directions.
Is it any wonder that this competition is the laughing stock of SA community cricket?
The worst part about this move from the association, is i'm led to believe this has been in their thought process for quite a lengthy period of time, yet were still willing to allow the coach to continue to invest a great deal of time and effort into the representative programs whilst he was unbeknown to the fact.
This exec have no strategic plan, no business plan, no idea... Some of the members on the exec dont even know how to play cricket themselves let alone be able to run the competition.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:29 pm

What is most disgracefull about this decision is the process and lack of professionalism the executive took. Nothing short of cowardly - but thats to be expected given their history and the members who are on the executive, its like the "whose who of those who cant even run their own club".
Lack of finance and costing may very well be a valid reason, but sending a semi-professional, more social-like email out of the blue informing of the decision without offering any right of reply or even infact solid reasoning behind the decision shows how cowardly, inept & lacking of integrity the executive is.
I cant believe the SAMCA allows this competition to even be a recognised association still! It's run like a back yard social comp and run by a bunch of muppets whose average age is matched only by its collective IQ
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:37 pm

LOL just thinking.. does anyone remember the former assoc coach? Bob Lisle? HAHAHA!! What a waste of time and space he was! Seen him if lucky once a year, attended the odd training session but never ran one, but was quick to brag how he was involved with Southern Districts!
Hmm actually sounds a lot like the exec come to think of it - rarely seen, egotistical and retarded
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:55 pm

Come on O2T hurry up and reply, I need a giggle and look forward to reading you try to justify this..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Oxygen Thief » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:03 pm

Wow, just caught up on all the reading and must say am very dissapointed with the attitude of the exec.

In the past i myself have done alot of work for the national carnival as well as sponsoring the association
in the form of $$$.

This will now cease.

To "sack" someone for being honest and not towing the line is not something i want my business associated with.

Keep going guys, soon there will be no one left who gives a sh*t.

Pg: Justify? are you kidding me?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby spintwin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:12 pm

The Association is a joke. I hope that they dont get a team together for next trip. That will save them the money they are trying to save. If this Association last 4 more years i will be suprised. I know all the blokes that go away to the Carnival with a coach love and respect him for what he has done and what he still does.I look forward to next cricket season and i iwll make sure that i get to play a game with a champion bloke. He should be showed more respect than this. Some people need to take a good hard look at them selves. You know who you are.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:13 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:Wow, just caught up on all the reading and must say am very dissapointed with the attitude of the exec.

In the past i myself have done alot of work for the national carnival as well as sponsoring the association
in the form of $$$.

This will now cease.

To "sack" someone for being honest and not towing the line is not something i want my business associated with.

Keep going guys, soon there will be no one left who gives a sh*t.

Pg: Justify? are you kidding me?

Your going to try and tell me you didn't know anything about this? BAHAHAHA!! =)) I have it on good authority you were well aware of this being in the pipelines for sometime...

I was expecting you to get on here and give a bunch of reasons why the exec came to this decision.. hopefully that little rat from Enfield Michael Johns can get on and do that then..

What the assoc doesnt realise it that Mark has a very strong rapport with players in the association and with other association, infact Im sure 90% of players would know his name and have some idea of who he is/what his role is within the assoc, but id be suprised if 10% could name 1 or more members of the executive.. Mark has the ability to gain the trust and respect of people and gain commitment from them, if he rung me tomorrow and asked me to return to churches I would have little hesitation, as would blokes such as Paul Wright, Michael & Matthew Feltus, Ryan Vanderwerf etc etc..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:14 pm

This is just not right! Yes the Hearder and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things but he does wear his heart on his sleeve when it comes to the team.
I cant believe they think they will find someone who puts in as much as The Hearder.
How did this come about? Was there moves by a club or person to plant the seed on this?
Surely it isn't something they just woke up and decided. Smells a bit fishy to me and i hope there wasn't anyone behind all of this!
If so, he will b found out and revealed in due course and deserves what he gets. To treat a State coach like this is disgraceful. Chin up Hearder, i know you mean well, too bad there are back stabbers at play.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Oxygen Thief » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:17 pm

its funny you know its become more and more apparent that the more you do, the more you put
yourself out for this comp the more you get seen as a threat and are quickly knocked on the head.

Maybe we should just start fresh with a whole new comp?

Start from scratch?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:18 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:its funny you know its become more and more apparent that the more you do, the more you put
yourself out for this comp the more you get seen as a threat and are quickly knocked on the head.

Maybe we should just start fresh with a whole new comp?

Start from scratch?

Yep i agree, just give the win to Rose Park on Sat and start afresh!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:19 pm

hotpies wrote:This is just not right! Yes the Hearder and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things but he does wear his heart on his sleeve when it comes to the team.
I cant believe they think they will find someone who puts in as much as The Hearder.
How did this come about? Was there moves by a club or person to plant the seed on this?
Surely it isn't something they just woke up and decided. Smells a bit fishy to me and i hope there wasn't anyone behind all of this!
If so, he will b found out and revealed in due course and deserves what he gets. To treat a State coach like this is disgraceful. Chin up Hearder, i know you mean well, too bad there are back stabbers at play.

Exactly! Can't be a random decision. Im sure Ian Amey didn't just wake up this morning and think "Hey might send Wino an email and while im at it tell him to f*** off!"
Infact I doubt Ian Amey would even have the balls to suggest this move, seems from an outsider point of view that he is a gutless puppet with the title of leader of this association. Exec members that arent good enough to be involved with the carnivals jealous maybe?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Oxygen Thief » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:19 pm

Phantom i found out about this late saturday night at OB's.
Im not on the exec, nor will i ever be
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:19 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:its funny you know its become more and more apparent that the more you do, the more you put
yourself out for this comp the more you get seen as a threat and are quickly knocked on the head.

Maybe we should just start fresh with a whole new comp?

Start from scratch?

Dissolve the comp. Problem solved.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:22 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:Phantom i found out about this late saturday night at OB's.
Im not on the exec, nor will i ever be


So you knew before The Hearder? I thought i read he got sent a email today?

Gee that is a great way to treat a bloke who has given so much.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:23 pm

Oxygen Thief wrote:Phantom i found out about this late saturday night at OB's.
Im not on the exec, nor will i ever be

Oh dear... even more embarassing for the association then if you found out Sat night.. to think that people knew before the person in question had even been made aware!
Makes me wonder too though, that if you knew and OB knew, then surely most of PV wouldve known - the club the bloke represented with great pride and success - yet no one felt obligated to speak to him and give him some sort of heads up about the cowardly move?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:25 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Oxygen Thief wrote:Phantom i found out about this late saturday night at OB's.
Im not on the exec, nor will i ever be

Oh dear... even more embarassing for the association then if you found out Sat night.. to think that people knew before the person in question had even been made aware!
Makes me wonder too though, that if you knew and OB knew, then surely most of PV wouldve known - the club the bloke represented with great pride and success - yet no one felt obligated to speak to him and give him some sort of heads up about the cowardly move?

If Para Vista are such a great bunch of blokes and that, surely you would of told him! Didnt he watch you blokes Sat and support you from the sidelines but you didn't feel the need to drop it to him?
If my mates treated me like that i would be pissed right off, unless i had a plan in place myself?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:27 pm

I still cant believe that it appears to never have occured to the exec to even speak to Wino about what they perceived to be a major problem.
Couldn't tell him face to face, couldn't even make the email formal - no letterhead, no professionism.
Oh and really had a good laugh in the email when Ian Amey appeared to push part of the blame for this decision back on Wino himself! :lol: :lol: Like a little kid pointing the finger and passing the buck because they cant handle it!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:29 pm

hotpies wrote:unless i had a plan in place myself?

Agreed.. Starting to think it stinks of someone in it for themselves with something to gain out of this.. And given the length of time Wino has been involved I would dare to say that who ever it is he probably knows very well and probably considers himself to have quite a strong relationship with... ouch hurts just that little bit more..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:32 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
hotpies wrote:unless i had a plan in place myself?

Agreed.. Starting to think it stinks of someone in it for themselves with something to gain out of this.. And given the length of time Wino has been involved I would dare to say that who ever it is he probably knows very well and probably considers himself to have quite a strong relationship with... ouch hurts just that little bit more..

Ok Phantom im starting to get a bit worried that we are getting along and agreeing on things.
This is a classic case of someone backstabbing someone to get what they want. I sure hope it wasn't a friend
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