Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

[CoverKing]

Did Keswick end up getting some prize money for there T20 win on sunday ?

Is this something the Association should look into in the future? Prizemoney for Section 1 and the t20 cup??
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Thoughts??

I'd certainly hope they wouldn't provide prize money. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Too many issues with it for basically no better outcome IMO.

What issues Roseboy? I really have no idea which way i would prefer. I think its working pretty well at the moment so would lean towards keeping it is as, without much knowledge on either sides!

[CoverKing]

i hear a rumour that cove may be keen to join this comp next year what div do they start in take into account back to back and sitting 2nd on the ladder to have a go at 3 this year and would they be welcome to join the comp !

have also heard cove keen to get turf pitch in and possibly have a second oval with turf pitch put in up there as well

Have heard for the last couple of years that Cove are hoping to join our comp. If it means our comp is therefore at a higher standard, i am all for it.

I would imagine it would be a fair grudge match between Cove and Sheidow? Would Sheidow lose any players to Cove if they were to join this association..

i dare say, with the problems Westminster are supposedly happenig, and the record of Cove in the last couple of years, that they would definitely come into section 1, and even more so if a B grade side does win section 2.

[Minotaur]

Did Keswick end up getting some prize money for there T20 win on sunday ?

Is this something the Association should look into in the future? Prizemoney for Section 1 and the t20 cup??

Next year my thoughts on the t20 comp.

4 groups of 4.
8 seeds. 1st and 8th seed in same group. 2nd and 7th in the same group etc:
Seeds for next year would be. Keswick 1. WYC 2. Ramblers 3. Sheidow 4. (ramblers ahead of sheidow as they went out in same round of t20 and ramblers ahead in 2day comp, thus giving them higher ranking).
The remaining 8 teams are drawn out with 2 teams going into each group.

Each team plays 3 teams, against the other group members (before christmas, on scheduled sundays). Top 2 advance to next stage.

Quarter Fina stage: QF 1 - Top of Group 1 hosts 2nd of group 2. QF 2 -1st of group 2 hosts 2nd of group 1. Same goes for group 3 and 4. These matches scheduled for 2nd sunday after Xmas.

Semi Final Stage:Winner of QF 1 plays winner of QF 4. Winner of QF 2 plays winner of QF 3.
First sunday of the third game after xmas, scheduled match. A double header at a selected venue could be the go??

Final. Winners of Semi Finals. Scheduled day being either first or second week of round 10 as it is this year.

Obviously this is subject to the association games actually being organied before the season starts, and also spread before and after christmas, instead of all after christmas.

Thoughts??

CK, i agree with some sort of format. While the seeding may be a little more difficult than working on last years performances, it could also be done in zones based on areas (and depending on the clubs that nominate a team). During this year I have thought more a round-robin situation would be beneficial. While it means more Sunday cricket, there could also be a situation where a number of games could be played out at North Haven perhaps. In a day, there could easily be 4 games played, maybe even 6 with the 2 ovals. Or alternatively, more night games being played during the week.

At least with a structure in place, it has the possibility of leaving it to the Association to say this/these are the days games are being played, play it on the day or forfeit. I am sure others can attest to the fact at times it was difficult to organise games around juniors and club functions. If a program is known at the start of the season, all functions can be worked around this.

[Minotaur]

i hear a rumour that cove may be keen to join this comp next year what div do they start in take into account back to back and sitting 2nd on the ladder to have a go at 3 this year and would they be welcome to join the comp !

have also heard cove keen to get turf pitch in and possibly have a second oval with turf pitch put in up there as well

Have heard for the last couple of years that Cove are hoping to join our comp. If it means our comp is therefore at a higher standard, i am all for it.

I would imagine it would be a fair grudge match between Cove and Sheidow? Would Sheidow lose any players to Cove if they were to join this association..

i dare say, with the problems Westminster are supposedly happenig, and the record of Cove in the last couple of years, that they would definitely come into section 1, and even more so if a B grade side does win section 2.

Main reason is that SCA seems to be going down. Whether they look at turf or ASCA remains to be seen, but coming into ASCA will be interesting for Sheidow indeed. Many of our younger cricketers play football for the Cove! I would hope they would stay with Sheidow, but you never know...

[Roseboy]

I see your point RB but John Zadow said he wouldn't allow it anyway.

I don't know about the our level of cricket part RB. I am sure there are plenty of people who would like to turn up see the toss and go home for the day and turn up day two to bat. I don't believe that is in the right spirit of cricket. My opinion but if others think it should be allowed then i must say i would be surprised.

That's a pretty slippery slope you've gone down there. You're making the assumption that you'll always have 12th men available and they're sure they won't need to bat later that day. Personally, i just don't see that scenario happening regularly.

On the flip side, I've been injured for much of the season (and pre-season) with a recurring ankle/foot injury (thus the weight gain... sob story I know). I can put up with the pain bowling as I still want to compete, but I'd love to have had time off my feet when not bowling to ice up/rest and then come back on later in the day to bowl again (subject to being back on the field again for the same time etc etc). Going by what CK wrote, and as I said I partially agree, I would be ineligble for a fielding substitute cos the injury was prior to the game.

So in summary, i do see both sides, but I can't see it being abused really.

[CoverKing]

Did Keswick end up getting some prize money for there T20 win on sunday ?

Is this something the Association should look into in the future? Prizemoney for Section 1 and the t20 cup??

Next year my thoughts on the t20 comp.

4 groups of 4.
8 seeds. 1st and 8th seed in same group. 2nd and 7th in the same group etc:
Seeds for next year would be. Keswick 1. WYC 2. Ramblers 3. Sheidow 4. (ramblers ahead of sheidow as they went out in same round of t20 and ramblers ahead in 2day comp, thus giving them higher ranking).
The remaining 8 teams are drawn out with 2 teams going into each group.

Each team plays 3 teams, against the other group members (before christmas, on scheduled sundays). Top 2 advance to next stage.

Quarter Fina stage: QF 1 - Top of Group 1 hosts 2nd of group 2. QF 2 -1st of group 2 hosts 2nd of group 1. Same goes for group 3 and 4. These matches scheduled for 2nd sunday after Xmas.

Semi Final Stage:Winner of QF 1 plays winner of QF 4. Winner of QF 2 plays winner of QF 3.
First sunday of the third game after xmas, scheduled match. A double header at a selected venue could be the go??

Final. Winners of Semi Finals. Scheduled day being either first or second week of round 10 as it is this year.

Obviously this is subject to the association games actually being organied before the season starts, and also spread before and after christmas, instead of all after christmas.

Thoughts??

CK, i agree with some sort of format. While the seeding may be a little more difficult than working on last years performances, it could also be done in zones based on areas (and depending on the clubs that nominate a team). During this year I have thought more a round-robin situation would be beneficial. While it means more Sunday cricket, there could also be a situation where a number of games could be played out at North Haven perhaps. In a day, there could easily be 4 games played, maybe even 6 with the 2 ovals. Or alternatively, more night games being played during the week.

At least with a structure in place, it has the possibility of leaving it to the Association to say this/these are the days games are being played, play it on the day or forfeit. I am sure others can attest to the fact at times it was difficult to organise games around juniors and club functions. If a program is known at the start of the season, all functions can be worked around this.

Fair enough Minotaur. Definitely agree with your last paragraph. I did think of zones, but realistically most clubs are up South. I think if we are to have a round robin, the seedings are the best way IMO. But north haven definitely is an oval we could use, where a team is to play 2 games in one day maybe? Night games during the week are a real issue, as people have different working hours, and simply, mid week games are near impossible to organise, and even schedule for the association.

Something the association needs to look at in my opinion!

[Roseboy]

Did Keswick end up getting some prize money for there T20 win on sunday ?

Is this something the Association should look into in the future? Prizemoney for Section 1 and the t20 cup??
...
Thoughts??

I'd certainly hope they wouldn't provide prize money. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Too many issues with it for basically no better outcome IMO.

What issues Roseboy? I really have no idea which way i would prefer. I think its working pretty well at the moment so would lean towards keeping it is as, without much knowledge on either sides!

A few things spring to mind:
* how is it paid for? increased association fees, sponsorship, something else? likely by increased fees - most clubs struggle as is
* if your club doesn't have a section 1 / t20 team, do you have to pay the extra fees (if that's how it's done)?
* for it to be worthwhile, you'd have to suggest a reasonable amount of money ($1k+?), but what's that magic number and how is it determined?
* does 2nd place get anything? if so, how much?
* what do the players paying their fees for the other 6 sections get out of it?
* lastly - how does it benefit the competition in a meaningful way?

I'm not overly well versed in other sports/associations, but I can't think of any non-professional body that rewards a premiership with a cash prize. Will no doubt be proven wrong though.

[Gowser]

Roseboy, the money the association spend getting the 11 best players in the comp pissed after an association game could be money better spent elsewhere? They could also look to source some sponsorship for the event.
I think there should be an entry/registration fee to compete in the T20 comp, $100/team winner take all. The association needs to take more responsibility for running the comp and not leave it up to the clubs.

Good thing Gowser didn't get the pink hat in the shot as well .

Oh, i did, i just cropped the pic to protect his identity.

I also heard S. Naismith has walked out on Plympton after a dummy spit during post game presentations.

[CoverKing]

Roseboy, the money the association spend getting the 11 best players in the comp pissed after an association game could be money better spent elsewhere? They could also look to source some sponsorship for the event.
I think there should be an entry/registration fee to compete in the T20 comp, $100/team winner take all. The association needs to take more responsibility for running the comp and not leave it up to the clubs.

Good thing Gowser didn't get the pink hat in the shot as well .

Oh, i did, i just cropped the pic to protect his identity.

I also heard S. Naismith has walked out on Plympton after a dummy spit during post game presentations.

I had also heard about S. Naismith last week Gowser and noticed he wasnt named this game. Definitely their most technically correct bat and quality keeper IMO that is a massive loss for Plympton, thats for sure. No idea why he has left or when he left so i cant comment on anything else.

RB, the prizemoney i was thinking about for t20, was along the same lines as Gowser, an entry fee. This would stop sides such as South Roads screwing over another team early on in the competition. For section 1, the only reason i suggested section 1, was because it then gives extra incentive for clubs to pick their best side, for clubs to strive for section 1. I would not consider prizemoney for the lower grades as it would become an issue of clubs stacking their lower grades even more. The section 1 money, would come out of fee's that have been received during the year, but set at say $1k, and if their are not enough money in fee's then the association chip in the rest. The association game piss up money is an easy solution to have extra $$ on the side for prizemoney.

[Moe]

Dear Skinny.
I am writing to you on behalf of the Morphettville Park Cricket Club, and it's supporters.
As a club, we work very hard on our policies such as train hard, play hard or even philosifying with our junior cricketers that if you put the hard work in, then you will get results.
We also pride ourselves in having what we think, is the best comeraderie in the ASCA, along with a wonderful social side to us.

When things go wrong we stick together & help each other out. We have always bounced back from adversity, such as near bankruptcy, relegation & even the loss of our extraordinary Club/Bar/Team manager, but I fear we may not recover from this travesty!

Your selection of Kym Woodward for the Association side this week is something we cannot comprehend. It was bad enough having to listen to Ross all last week about taking one in the head for the Assoc, one thing we have all been trying for months, but now we have months, nay years, of how YOU Kevin J, selected one KYM "BRADMAN" WOODWARD to represent our Assoc.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

[Moe]

Of course this is all meant as a joke

Congrats Kymbo. Sometimes hard work does pay off.

Hire-a-batter anyone

[Deep Heat]

Moe surely you were close to selection after ur game last friday That six into the clubrooms

[Madrooster]

Moe surely you were close to selection after ur game last friday That six into the clubrooms

Problem there Deep Heat is that in a "normal" game you dont play agaist 10 year olds, and you have to sit down after you get dismissed, not get out another 3 times and then hit a six!

[Madrooster]

Dear Skinny.
I am writing to you on behalf of the Morphettville Park Cricket Club, and it's supporters.
As a club, we work very hard on our policies such as train hard, play hard or even philosifying with our junior cricketers that if you put the hard work in, then you will get results.
We also pride ourselves in having what we think, is the best comeraderie in the ASCA, along with a wonderful social side to us.

When things go wrong we stick together & help each other out. We have always bounced back from adversity, such as near bankruptcy, relegation & even the loss of our extraordinary Club/Bar/Team manager, but I fear we may not recover from this travesty!

Your selection of Kym Woodward for the Association side this week is something we cannot comprehend. It was bad enough having to listen to Ross all last week about taking one in the head for the Assoc, one thing we have all been trying for months, but now we have months, nay years, of how YOU Kevin J, selected one KYM "BRADMAN" WOODWARD to represent our Assoc.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Dont often agree with you Moe, but in most of what you had to say here I must - Shame KJ Shame!

Will disagree however with the impact of losing the "beloved?" bar manager - the majority opinion is that we might now start moving forwards, he does after all drink most of the profits !!

[Moe]

Moe surely you were close to selection after ur game last friday That six into the clubrooms

Must say Deep Heat that it has been a long week due to my outstanding exhibition last Friday night.
Constant questioning & pleas from the selection committee for me to come out of retirement are wearing thin.

I was there purely to raise money with some good mates & show the juniors a good time.
Quite a few eyebrows were raised when I SMASHED the former 3 time medal/COTY and fearsome allrounder out of the park, then came off the long run & hurled down thunderbolt after thunderbolt, yet i have always said, you never lose class!
The public have been asking for an encore performance, but unfortunately I am now a golfer



P.s. Getting my stumps smashed to pieces & nearly being killed by said feasome allrounder are all rumors too

[Moe]

Dear Skinny.
I am writing to you on behalf of the Morphettville Park Cricket Club, and it's supporters.
As a club, we work very hard on our policies such as train hard, play hard or even philosifying with our junior cricketers that if you put the hard work in, then you will get results.
We also pride ourselves in having what we think, is the best comeraderie in the ASCA, along with a wonderful social side to us.

When things go wrong we stick together & help each other out. We have always bounced back from adversity, such as near bankruptcy, relegation & even the loss of our extraordinary Club/Bar/Team manager, but I fear we may not recover from this travesty!

Your selection of Kym Woodward for the Association side this week is something we cannot comprehend. It was bad enough having to listen to Ross all last week about taking one in the head for the Assoc, one thing we have all been trying for months, but now we have months, nay years, of how YOU Kevin J, selected one KYM "BRADMAN" WOODWARD to represent our Assoc.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Dont often agree with you Moe, but in most of what you had to say here I must - Shame KJ Shame!

Will disagree however with the impact of losing the "beloved?" bar manager - the majority opinion is that we might now start moving forwards, he does after all drink most of the profits !!

It is better to drink the profits than just pocketing them Maybe some of the barflies might find another hobby too, hey Madrooter?

[Real McCoy]

Dear Skinny.
I am writing to you on behalf of the Morphettville Park Cricket Club, and it's supporters.
As a club, we work very hard on our policies such as train hard, play hard or even philosifying with our junior cricketers that if you put the hard work in, then you will get results.
We also pride ourselves in having what we think, is the best comeraderie in the ASCA, along with a wonderful social side to us.

When things go wrong we stick together & help each other out. We have always bounced back from adversity, such as near bankruptcy, relegation & even the loss of our extraordinary Club/Bar/Team manager, but I fear we may not recover from this travesty!

Your selection of Kym Woodward for the Association side this week is something we cannot comprehend. It was bad enough having to listen to Ross all last week about taking one in the head for the Assoc, one thing we have all been trying for months, but now we have months, nay years, of how YOU Kevin J, selected one KYM "BRADMAN" WOODWARD to represent our Assoc.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Great, he made runs on the weekend and now this, will we ever hear the end of this ??

No well done yellow Teletubbie,LA LA !!!!

[Real McCoy]

Hey Moe, after you had the the six, how did the next delivery go ?, have heard that the missus is still cleaning your jocks !!!!

[wycbloods]

Dear Skinny.
I am writing to you on behalf of the Morphettville Park Cricket Club, and it's supporters.
As a club, we work very hard on our policies such as train hard, play hard or even philosifying with our junior cricketers that if you put the hard work in, then you will get results.
We also pride ourselves in having what we think, is the best comeraderie in the ASCA, along with a wonderful social side to us.

When things go wrong we stick together & help each other out. We have always bounced back from adversity, such as near bankruptcy, relegation & even the loss of our extraordinary Club/Bar/Team manager, but I fear we may not recover from this travesty!

Your selection of Kym Woodward for the Association side this week is something we cannot comprehend. It was bad enough having to listen to Ross all last week about taking one in the head for the Assoc, one thing we have all been trying for months, but now we have months, nay years, of how YOU Kevin J, selected one KYM "BRADMAN" WOODWARD to represent our Assoc.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

I know your post is more a dig at Kym than skinny but i would say that Skinny has very few people to choose from for the association side as many are unavailable. That isn't meant to be a dig at Kym but i am sure if the best 11 were available then you wouldn't have to listen to Kym talk about playing association cricket. Unfortunately for different reasons many will be unavailable but it gives people like Kym an opportunity to play association cricket and i am sure he will enjoy it.

[Booney]

Did Keswick end up getting some prize money for there T20 win on sunday ?

Is this something the Association should look into in the future? Prizemoney for Section 1 and the t20 cup??

Next year my thoughts on the t20 comp.

4 groups of 4.
8 seeds. 1st and 8th seed in same group. 2nd and 7th in the same group etc:
Seeds for next year would be. Keswick 1. WYC 2. Ramblers 3. Sheidow 4. (ramblers ahead of sheidow as they went out in same round of t20 and ramblers ahead in 2day comp, thus giving them higher ranking).
The remaining 8 teams are drawn out with 2 teams going into each group.

Each team plays 3 teams, against the other group members (before christmas, on scheduled sundays). Top 2 advance to next stage.

Quarter Fina stage: QF 1 - Top of Group 1 hosts 2nd of group 2. QF 2 -1st of group 2 hosts 2nd of group 1. Same goes for group 3 and 4. These matches scheduled for 2nd sunday after Xmas.

Semi Final Stage:Winner of QF 1 plays winner of QF 4. Winner of QF 2 plays winner of QF 3.
First sunday of the third game after xmas, scheduled match. A double header at a selected venue could be the go??

Final. Winners of Semi Finals. Scheduled day being either first or second week of round 10 as it is this year.

Obviously this is subject to the association games actually being organied before the season starts, and also spread before and after christmas, instead of all after christmas.

Thoughts??

Yep, stick to playing real cricket and leave T20 for hit and giggle comps in India.

Anywho, you bat in 75 over games like its a T20 CK, why are you so interested?