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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Groover » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:42 am

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Groover wrote:So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO


deserving 8fa? Probably. deserving to go for no runs? Probably not. You can't try and take the spotlight off your own side, at the end of the day your side produced a disgracefull performance.

Sure credit goes to SW for obviously making the most of your pathetic attempt at cricket, but your side 1st and foremost wears the blame IMO.

18 is disgusting for any side, let alone grade 1.

Also wasn't it one of your clubs sides that got rolled for 6 the other week as well??


Correct, that was more like 7/6, but still batting at our club needs to be improved. To be competitive for most of the year and then put out performances like we have in the last few weeks really takes us a few steps back from where we would like to be.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:49 am

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None of them would be from Playford would they? ;)


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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby SS Minnow » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:09 am

Groover wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Groover wrote:So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO


deserving 8fa? Probably. deserving to go for no runs? Probably not. You can't try and take the spotlight off your own side, at the end of the day your side produced a disgracefull performance.

Sure credit goes to SW for obviously making the most of your pathetic attempt at cricket, but your side 1st and foremost wears the blame IMO.

18 is disgusting for any side, let alone grade 1.

Also wasn't it one of your clubs sides that got rolled for 6 the other week as well??


Correct, that was more like 7/6, but still batting at our club needs to be improved. To be competitive for most of the year and then put out performances like we have in the last few weeks really takes us a few steps back from where we would like to be.

I think ATCO need to have a good look at thier club. There captain in the A grade has made 112 runs for the year batting in the top 4 and 10 wickets. How can a club carry that. Then you have got a player in the B grade who has made two hundreds with 500+ runs and still isnt playing A grade. The club needs to stand up and get these players into the A grade.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby skywalker » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:11 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
None of them would be from Playford would they? ;)


I don't kiss and tell, do you know someting I don't?


Maybe Playford is one of those clubs that are waining without juniors.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Groover » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:15 am

SS Minnow wrote:
Groover wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Groover wrote:So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO


deserving 8fa? Probably. deserving to go for no runs? Probably not. You can't try and take the spotlight off your own side, at the end of the day your side produced a disgracefull performance.

Sure credit goes to SW for obviously making the most of your pathetic attempt at cricket, but your side 1st and foremost wears the blame IMO.

18 is disgusting for any side, let alone grade 1.

Also wasn't it one of your clubs sides that got rolled for 6 the other week as well??


Correct, that was more like 7/6, but still batting at our club needs to be improved. To be competitive for most of the year and then put out performances like we have in the last few weeks really takes us a few steps back from where we would like to be.

I think ATCO need to have a good look at thier club. There captain in the A grade has made 112 runs for the year batting in the top 4 and 10 wickets. How can a club carry that. Then you have got a player in the B grade who has made two hundreds with 500+ runs and still isnt playing A grade. The club needs to stand up and get these players into the A grade.


SW have proven they can carry a captain who isn't performing, so it can be done. I do agree though that a club's B grade should not be stronger than the A's, and players performing should be playing in the grade equivalent.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:18 am

skywalker wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
None of them would be from Playford would they? ;)


I don't kiss and tell, do you know someting I don't?


Maybe Playford is one of those clubs that are waining without juniors.

If I could find any criticism of Playford it would be that they don't have players willing to step up from their B's, they seem to do what ATCO do when nominating teams, they tend to go for that extra team in the hope of finding a few more players along the way. It's all good if everyone pays their way, the forfeits become costly though.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:37 am

Round 13 progressive scores
Grade 1
Rose & Crown 8/308 vs Angle Vale dnb
Salisbury North 174 vs Virginia 1/49
Brahma Lodge 8/193 vs One Tree Hill dnb
ATCO 18 & 5/67 vs Salisbury West 8/214 dec.

Apparently Angle Vale are missing a few key players due to a wedding, Rosies should win easily.
Virginia you would think can chase down the remaining 126.
Despite the slow OTH oval, I'm not sold that 193 is enough for the Lodge to defend.
Westies will be on the p!ss by 2pm.

There wont be any position changes in the top 4, all the top 4 teams will be playing against each other in round 14 which will make it interesting. ATCO will drop into the relegation zone and will have to beat Virginia in round 14 to have any hope of staying up.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:50 am

Grade 2
Playford 228 vs Eastern Park 6/56
Salisbury West 161 vs Parafield Gardens 0/58
Riverside 87 vs Central United 2/197
Craigmore 235 vs Smithfield 0/6

Playford should win outright from there.
Gardens have the upper hand and should claim 1st innings.
The Units look like winning outright unless Riverside can show some resistance in the 2nd dig.
Craigmore's 235 is a fairly defendable total, the boundary wasn't huge and the outfield was lightning quick though, evenly poised atm.

If Craigmore lose, they will more than likely drop out of the 4, if Smithfield lose they'll stay in by a bee's johnson. The Units can jump from 4th to top with an outright.

Round 14 is going to be good for the telco's, everyone will be doing regular updates from around the grounds to see how their chances are going. No one in the top 5 are certainties for finals action. The Gardens take on the Units in round 14, they will more than likely be joint leaders going into the round and the loser could well miss out.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:50 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:There wont be any position changes in the top 4, all the top 4 teams will be playing against each other in round 14 which will make it interesting. ATCO will drop into the relegation zone and will have to beat Virginia in round 14 to have any hope of staying up.


Would you really want to stay up? Prob better off goign down and rebuilding
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:51 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
skywalker wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
None of them would be from Playford would they? ;)


I don't kiss and tell, do you know someting I don't?


Maybe Playford is one of those clubs that are waining without juniors.

If I could find any criticism of Playford it would be that they don't have players willing to step up from their B's, they seem to do what ATCO do when nominating teams, they tend to go for that extra team in the hope of finding a few more players along the way. It's all good if everyone pays their way, the forfeits become costly though.


Very true, many blokes are happy to dominate the 'B' Grade which would be shown by the 'b' grade results in the last ten years, they wouldn't have missed the finals too many times.

Very often the Playfords number 10 & or 11 is a bloke who probably isn't really even a 'b' grade player but is happy to field and bat anywhere between 8-11 and not bowl. Not as big a problem this season but it has been the case at Playford more often than not.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:53 am

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:There wont be any position changes in the top 4, all the top 4 teams will be playing against each other in round 14 which will make it interesting. ATCO will drop into the relegation zone and will have to beat Virginia in round 14 to have any hope of staying up.


Would you really want to stay up? Prob better off goign down and rebuilding


They'd want to stay up.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Wizard of Oz » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:34 am

SW have proven they can carry a captain who isn't performing, so it can be done. I do agree though that a club's B grade should not be stronger than the A's, and players performing should be playing in the grade equivalent.[/quote]




They are doing it on their dicks at the moment. Do you think its fair to compare the two clubs ? Add to the fact he rarely has a hit in the one dayers as he drops himself down the order. It aint apples with apples thats for sure...
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Groover » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:59 am

Wizard of Oz wrote:SW have proven they can carry a captain who isn't performing, so it can be done. I do agree though that a club's B grade should not be stronger than the A's, and players performing should be playing in the grade equivalent.





They are doing it on their dicks at the moment. Do you think its fair to compare the two clubs ? Add to the fact he rarely has a hit in the one dayers as he drops himself down the order. It aint apples with apples thats for sure...[/quote]

Just saying it can be done, cant criticise him though. With all the wins on the board he's done his job.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Iwasthere84 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:24 pm

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Iwasthere84 wrote:I cast my mind back to the AGM where the ATCO delegate got up and said we dont need changes because cricket is traditional and if its not broken, why change. Surely she is now deeply concerned. What changes can be made? ATCO are not competitive, Salis Nth are not competitive. Will the two from Gd 2 be any better? My gut feeling is the Assoc is slowly suffering a grim death. I fear for the number of teams that will fall away next year. My prediction is we will lose 3 clubs and up to 10 teams in total.


Always negative there 84, the only clubs that I'm concerned over for next season are Salisbury North and Elizabeth East. Didn't ATCO lose narrowly to Salisbury West in the one-dayer? As far as the teams in the position of going up into Grade 1 next season, I think they will cope better than Salisbury North have this season.
Craigmore would need to find another consistent batsmen or have one or two of their current players step up more on a regular basis, take out Dobbo and Gav and the averages drop away dramatically. They are probably lacking a quick bowler, fix these areas up and they will be very competitive.
Central United have blooded a lot of kids this season and with their experienced players they could have an even mix. They have a few match-winners in their team and can be very dangerous.
Parafield Gardens need Hanson playing for them as they struggle at the top of their batting line-up, Lynch and Pargaliti are a good opening bowling pair but after that the quality drops off.
Playford have a long batting line-up and have a good mix of bowlers when they are all available, that has been their problem this season, they've always got one key bowler unavailable.
We are short a strike bowler, we have the batting depth we just need a quick to shake the batsmen up and have our line and length bowlers to apply pressuer and force the errors.
We know what we need for us to be successful in Grade 1 and we have 5 players that I'd say would be better than a 50% chance of coming out to us next season that are of A grade standard. We've had preliminary talks with another 6 who I'd rate as a 30 to 50% chance of coming out.


Negative or Pessimistic? Perhaps the air is clearer up north there LM, but I still believe the writing is on the wall. Most of the clubs you have named coming up from Gd 2 all had a common theme.....if everyone played or what they need to be better. I hope they do well, dont get me wrong, but lots of hard work and luck is needed.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Browny25 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:30 pm

Rosies would be a good chance for an outright this week right?

leaving them in a good position to still finish 2nd..
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:46 pm

Iwasthere84 wrote:
Negative or Pessimistic? Perhaps the air is clearer up north there LM, but I still believe the writing is on the wall. Most of the clubs you have named coming up from Gd 2 all had a common theme.....if everyone played or what they need to be better. I hope they do well, dont get me wrong, but lots of hard work and luck is needed.


I'm just pointing out flaws that I see in each team as I have seen them this season, I'm not saying that they wouldn't cut it with what they already have. There haven't been too many schlackings this season and I think the top two grades are closer this season than what they were last (by that I mean the difference between the top sides and bottom sides).
Don't get me wrong, we do need as a group to take a step back and look at ways to improve it, perhaps at the de-briefing meeting ALL A Grade captains should be present.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby sports follower » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:53 pm

SS Minnow wrote:Groover. Is it true what I am hearing. ATCO all out for 18 and J Mac 8 for 0.


Maybe they should of demoted themselves to Duv 2 at the start of the season like they wanted to..
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:05 pm

browny2323 wrote:Rosies would be a good chance for an outright this week right?

leaving them in a good position to still finish 2nd..


20 wickets in a day is hard work, think rosies at this stage would be happy to knock them over cheap and as quick as possible then assess the situation from there.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby SS Minnow » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:42 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:SW have proven they can carry a captain who isn't performing, so it can be done. I do agree though that a club's B grade should not be stronger than the A's, and players performing should be playing in the grade equivalent.





They are doing it on their dicks at the moment. Do you think its fair to compare the two clubs ? Add to the fact he rarely has a hit in the one dayers as he drops himself down the order. It aint apples with apples thats for sure...[/quote]

So when you go back there next year are you going to be the Captain.
Groover- I think it’s a bit different when you have got 11 blokes that are capable of captaining any side in grade 1. The way Sal West are looking at the moment they are going to smash whoever in the finals but hey How good would it be to watch them loose. I would pay money for it. I think every PDCA club will be supporting the lucky club to come up against Sal West.
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Re: Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Groover » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:56 pm

SS Minnow wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:
SS Minnow wrote:SW have proven they can carry a captain who isn't performing, so it can be done. I do agree though that a club's B grade should not be stronger than the A's, and players performing should be playing in the grade equivalent.





They are doing it on their dicks at the moment. Do you think its fair to compare the two clubs ? Add to the fact he rarely has a hit in the one dayers as he drops himself down the order. It aint apples with apples thats for sure...


So when you go back there next year are you going to be the Captain.
Groover- I think it’s a bit different when you have got 11 blokes that are capable of captaining any side in grade 1. The way Sal West are looking at the moment they are going to smash whoever in the finals but hey How good would it be to watch them loose. I would pay money for it. I think every PDCA club will be supporting the lucky club to come up against Sal West.
PDCA vs. Sal West 27th and 28th of March 2010.


SW have been the best team all year, they really are the only team that deserve to win. As much as others would like them to be knocked off, I think it would be tragic if they didn't take home the flag.
Also still focusing on the rest of this year before I think about whats going to happen next year, May put my hand up to captain, but at the end of the day its not my decision as to weather i get the job.
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