Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

[wycbloods]

Our experience with Ray is that he's fairly lenient with what he'll let guys get away with. He'll have a chat to the player, the skipper and maybe a warning, but I've never seen him report someone.

I'm guessing it was something pretty severe. Care to elaborate?

Not necessarily related to this as I don't know what happened, but I understand that the Association is cracking down on umpire abuse (rightly so). Anyone in section 1 got done for it yet? I've only seen one incident of it getting out of hand but the umpire did well to difuse it.

They did talk about it at the last association meeting that they wanted to crack down on umpire abuse. As CK pointed out Ray got snakey with him about something he had misheard and then he didn't apologise and tried to make an example out of him which was frustrating to watch an umpire pick on stupid things. He did apologise for it the next week but it was poor form from him the week before. He reacts strangely when a bowler asks why a decision wasn't given it is funny sometimes.

I am very surprised to hear that Mal got reported he certainly seemed to have a cool head on his shoulders against us and in the times i have met him off the field. The decision must have really got under his skin.

[Bulldogga55]

I think the guy who wore the pink shorts over tight bike pants for sheidow before and after the game should get reported or even the opening batsmen who wore an armguard on the wrong arm.

[Roseboy]

Speaking of umpires and decisions, this one from our section 6 game on Saturday takes the cake for just being shocking. Its actually quite funny.

2nd to last over of the game, Ramblers bowling, the other team (will remain nameless for now but won't take a genius to work it out) are 9 down and the score is tied. A young kid comes out, white t-shirt, brown shorts and all padded up. Maybe 15 years old.

Anyway, Ramblers bowler comes in, puts in a short (albeit very slow) ball, huuuuge deflection off the glove, caught down leg-side by the keeper. The entire rest of the club were watching as it was just prior to our Christmas do. Anyway, the decision was an incredible, "not out". We on the boundary couldn't believe it, our guys playing sure couldn't believe it. Anyway, they continue on and the other team wins.

As our guys come off the field, they say "the kid said he couldn't be out because it hit him on the glove, not the bat".

So - if you're the umpire in this instance, let's assume you're blind and don't see the deflection, but you hear the batsman say what he did. Do you stick with your "not out" decision or do you give it out?

[Roseboy]

I think the guy who wore the pink shorts over tight bike pants for sheidow before and after the game should get reported or even the opening batsmen who wore an armguard on the wrong arm.

I'm guessing the armguard on the wrong arm is JB due to his previously broken arm.

Actually, thinking about it more, both sound very much like JB

[Bulldogga55]

i think its there captian Mccormack. That makes sense.
The pink shorts bloke was left arm bowler Harvey dont know his 1st name. Also, it must have been pretty hot at capella on sat because it seemed at every drinks break he had his shirt off like he was at the beach. total galah if ask me.

[plugger12]

i think its there captian Mccormack. That makes sense.
The pink shorts bloke was left arm bowler Harvey dont know his 1st name. Also, it must have been pretty hot at capella on sat because it seemed at every drinks break he had his shirt off like he was at the beach. total galah if ask me.

well said bulldogga55.... Total Galah!!!!

[CoverKing]

i think its there captian Mccormack. That makes sense.
The pink shorts bloke was left arm bowler Harvey dont know his 1st name. Also, it must have been pretty hot at capella on sat because it seemed at every drinks break he had his shirt off like he was at the beach. total galah if ask me.

yeah brendan does bat with it on the other arm becaus he also broke his arm mate just near the start of cricket season, hence why he missed the first two games! so he is looking like a goose so he can play cricket and fair enough.. as the captain he is doin well i think pretty brave going out there before chrissy with a badly broken arm that required surgery i do believe!

and yeah arren harvey well the pink shorts that is a good look to wat he was wearing sunday in hte 20/20 game

[jb]

mal is usually very cool carm and collected but i think sometimes he just gets frustrated with the level of cricket hes playing (did play 1st grade in sydney and nsw state u/19s with the likes of the waugh bros, mcgrath and macgill so coming down here and getting decisions like half volleys getting spooned to cover he does lose his cool a bit! and i wont go into what he said but i tell u what he didnt do and that was call him a cheat now thats wat i thought the umpires are cracking down on?

as for our arm guards myself and macca unfortunatley broke our arms just before the start of the season in the same fashion, in the same spot but different arms so we are forced to wear it as 1 heavy knock will send us back to sqaure 1 of a 10 week injury...

gallah? IMO if a bloke is as cut as that and smashes enough quality box as he does he can do what he wants really... u old hacks seem jealous, i think i saw i think there were about 7 or 8 blokes in your team that struggled to tuck their shirts in due to being well lets be honest...fat

[plugger12]

i think its there captian Mccormack. That makes sense.
The pink shorts bloke was left arm bowler Harvey dont know his 1st name. Also, it must have been pretty hot at capella on sat because it seemed at every drinks break he had his shirt off like he was at the beach. total galah if ask me.

yeah brendan does bat with it on the other arm becaus he also broke his arm mate just near the start of cricket season, hence why he missed the first two games! so he is looking like a goose so he can play cricket and fair enough.. as the captain he is doin well i think pretty brave going out there before chrissy with a badly broken arm that required surgery i do believe!

and yeah arren harvey well the pink shorts that is a good look to wat he was wearing sunday in hte 20/20 game

Obviously not well enough, they lost!!!!

[Amateur Footy]

ray is a strange man. sometimes I think I can have a chat with him and other times he snaps at the first thing you say when he thinks your disagreeing with him. Still the only umpire to apologise to us the 2nd week of a game after giving some shocker LBWs against us a few years ago. Said his mind wasn't right..... think he should have kept that to himself and we'd have probably forgotten about it long ago.

[CoverKing]

i think its there captian Mccormack. That makes sense.
The pink shorts bloke was left arm bowler Harvey dont know his 1st name. Also, it must have been pretty hot at capella on sat because it seemed at every drinks break he had his shirt off like he was at the beach. total galah if ask me.

yeah brendan does bat with it on the other arm becaus he also broke his arm mate just near the start of cricket season, hence why he missed the first two games! so he is looking like a goose so he can play cricket and fair enough.. as the captain he is doin well i think pretty brave going out there before chrissy with a badly broken arm that required surgery i do believe!

and yeah arren harvey well the pink shorts that is a good look to wat he was wearing sunday in hte 20/20 game

Obviously not well enough, they lost!!!!

so what because they lost too ur mob he is not captaining well?? is that what ur implying??

[CoverKing]

ray is a strange man. sometimes I think I can have a chat with him and other times he snaps at the first thing you say when he thinks your disagreeing with him. Still the only umpire to apologise to us the 2nd week of a game after giving some shocker LBWs against us a few years ago. Said his mind wasn't right..... think he should have kept that to himself and we'd have probably forgotten about it long ago.

yeha well he apologised too me about having a go at me and that his mind was not right... well if ur mind is not right champ dont rock up!!! use that as an excuse for bad communication/umpiring skills, thats a joke, especially when u apologise the week after, what about on the day! i would like to hear mal or JB's view on this?????

[Westsider]

Not necessarily related to this as I don't know what happened, but I understand that the Association is cracking down on umpire abuse (rightly so). Anyone in section 1 got done for it yet? I've only seen one incident of it getting out of hand but the umpire did well to difuse it.

Yeh it was mentioned at the assoc meeting i believe... and that week we had woodcroft going off at the assoc umpire.

I mentioned it before, and I'll ask again. How can a team, who has already lost on first innings in 1 day (and walked off the field 6 overs early), then forfeit during the week and only lose by 1st innings points?

In the paper it said outright loss, but its been entered on MyCricket as 1st innings loss.

[Roseboy]

yeha well he apologised too me about having a go at me and that his mind was not right... well if ur mind is not right champ dont rock up!!! use that as an excuse for bad communication/umpiring skills, thats a joke, especially when u apologise the week after, what about on the day! i would like to hear mal or JB's view on this?????

Put your hand up if you as a player go and apologise for going over the top at a bad decision on the day - especially when you're all fired up.

Perhaps it takes a bit of time to have a think about it and then go back later and apologise? In my view, it takes a bit of courage to apologise as an umpire, I'm impressed he does it. Certainly no reason to get stuck into him about it.

[CoverKing]

and for the record, is plympton the most inappropriately dressed club in all sections? wen we played them, pritch aside, was the only one too wear his shirt tucked in...and even ray didn have his shirt tucked in both days!! it looks absolutely woeful ...

Not necessarily related to this as I don't know what happened, but I understand that the Association is cracking down on umpire abuse (rightly so). Anyone in section 1 got done for it yet? I've only seen one incident of it getting out of hand but the umpire did well to difuse it.

Yeh it was mentioned at the assoc meeting i believe... and that week we had woodcroft going off at the assoc umpire.

I mentioned it before, and I'll ask again. How can a team, who has already lost on first innings in 1 day (and walked off the field 6 overs early), then forfeit during the week and only lose by 1st innings points?

In the paper it said outright loss, but its been entered on MyCricket as 1st innings loss.

well were u guaranteed the outright though?? IMO i think u deserved to get the outright because u had already won, but just because u won on day 1 does not mean u will automatically win outright...
i think its a complex situation, but when a team, like woodcroft will, get zero points for the game, then i think the other side should be awarded the outright win...

[Roseboy]

I mentioned it before, and I'll ask again. How can a team, who has already lost on first innings in 1 day (and walked off the field 6 overs early), then forfeit during the week and only lose by 1st innings points?

In the paper it said outright loss, but its been entered on MyCricket as 1st innings loss.

In my view, you're right to only receive first innings points. If the game was a forfeit from before the game, that's what you'd get as well. Who knows what might have happened this week. Whilst you probably feel ripped off of a possible outright (probably fair enough too), I dare say most clubs wouldn't be too impressed if you were awarded an outright without actually achieving it no matter what the circumstances.

[jb]

ray is a strange man. sometimes I think I can have a chat with him and other times he snaps at the first thing you say when he thinks your disagreeing with him. Still the only umpire to apologise to us the 2nd week of a game after giving some shocker LBWs against us a few years ago. Said his mind wasn't right..... think he should have kept that to himself and we'd have probably forgotten about it long ago.

yeha well he apologised too me about having a go at me and that his mind was not right... well if ur mind is not right champ dont rock up!!! use that as an excuse for bad communication/umpiring skills, thats a joke, especially when u apologise the week after, what about on the day! i would like to hear mal or JB's view on this?????

well IMO he doesnt have a clue on what lbw is on hard wicket... if the ball hits you on or above the knee roll there is no way it can be out (as i found out in the sec2 grand final last year ) mal was pretty harsh on ray for the decision so im not surprised he reported him, just hope he gets off...

[CoverKing]

yeha well he apologised too me about having a go at me and that his mind was not right... well if ur mind is not right champ dont rock up!!! use that as an excuse for bad communication/umpiring skills, thats a joke, especially when u apologise the week after, what about on the day! i would like to hear mal or JB's view on this?????

Put your hand up if you as a player go and apologise for going over the top at a bad decision on the day - especially when you're all fired up.

Perhaps it takes a bit of time to have a think about it and then go back later and apologise? In my view, it takes a bit of courage to apologise as an umpire, I'm impressed he does it. Certainly no reason to get stuck into him about it.

yeah its good he does, but why not do it at the end of the day! i dont think u need a week too do it!
and even the timing of an apology? he apologised to me personally when i was batting at the crease down the non strikers end between balls, and thats not what i wana hear as a batsman! it was ridicolous IMO ... i would rather not hear that apology or hear it on the day it happened

[jb]

on a lighter note our sec4 side smashed icc by 7 wickets, icc were sledging after the game too saying atleast they know how to fill out a team sheet, sheidow park in reply yelled we could have put 3 players on the team sheet and still smashed ya's sucked in

[CoverKing]

JB if a player from ur club gets reported do they get any extra punishment (more games suspended) by the club or is that not imposed at the pit??