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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:14 am

3x players with almost 1,500 runs between them..
5x players over 200 runs for the season..
4x bowlers with over 30 wickets for the season..
4x outright wins..
40x points clear of second..

Lose the Semi Final to a side that won less than 50% of its matches..

WTF happened at Smithfield?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby carey » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:21 am

Zartan wrote:3x players with almost 1,500 runs between them..
5x players over 200 runs for the season..
4x bowlers with over 30 wickets for the season..
4x outright wins..
40x points clear of second..

Lose the Semi Final to a side that won less than 50% of its matches..

WTF happened at Smithfield?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:



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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:56 am

Zartan wrote:3x players with almost 1,500 runs between them..
5x players over 200 runs for the season..
4x bowlers with over 30 wickets for the season..
4x outright wins..
40x points clear of second..

Lose the Semi Final to a side that won less than 50% of its matches..

WTF happened at Smithfield?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:


Fielded shit house apparently.

Probz got a bit cocky at times during the season, every win is a game closer to a loss.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:28 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Zartan wrote:3x players with almost 1,500 runs between them..
5x players over 200 runs for the season..
4x bowlers with over 30 wickets for the season..
4x outright wins..
40x points clear of second..

Lose the Semi Final to a side that won less than 50% of its matches..

WTF happened at Smithfield?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:


Fielded shit house apparently.

Probz got a bit cocky at times during the season, every win is a game closer to a loss.


Yeah general feel i got off facebook was they were travelling slightly ahead of themselves.

Not sure about the old boys at Smithfield but i dont imagine the younger lads had played alot of finals cricket so probably underestimated how different finals can be.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:46 am

Yep, cricket is human chess, I've been involved in 11 premierships and countless amounts of finals and it's all about strategies and executing plans.

You can't mask bad fielding and there are no individuals leading into the game, more often than not though someone steps up and does something special but it's usually someone unexpected that sneaks under the radar whether it be with the bat or the ball.

You need to be nervous, you need to be organised and you can't stuff around with Saturday rituals.

We tried getting there early for a breakfast together and all sorts of different methods but doing your usual thing works the best.

As I used to coach juniors, on Grand Final day I'd still go down to the oval at 7:45am, set up by myself and then line mark the complete boundary so there was no guessing by checking cones, a little extreme but sitting at home all day I would've played the game out 100 times in my head.

I think they won the GF before they got there, the older ones are feeling the disappointment as a couple of them should've won their 5th premiership together and the younger ones will learn that it's a marathon not a sprint.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:12 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Yep, cricket is human chess, I've been involved in 11 premierships and countless amounts of finals and it's all about strategies and executing plans.

You can't mask bad fielding and there are no individuals leading into the game, more often than not though someone steps up and does something special but it's usually someone unexpected that sneaks under the radar whether it be with the bat or the ball.

You need to be nervous, you need to be organised and you can't stuff around with Saturday rituals.

We tried getting there early for a breakfast together and all sorts of different methods but doing your usual thing works the best.

As I used to coach juniors, on Grand Final day I'd still go down to the oval at 7:45am, set up by myself and then line mark the complete boundary so there was no guessing by checking cones, a little extreme but sitting at home all day I would've played the game out 100 times in my head.

I think they won the GF before they got there, the older ones are feeling the disappointment as a couple of them should've won their 5th premiership together and the younger ones will learn that it's a marathon not a sprint.


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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:13 am

So....lots of love in the grade one semi between Craigmore and Salisbury West,, from what I hear.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:33 am

Dogwatcher wrote:So....lots of love in the grade one semi between Craigmore and Salisbury West,, from what I hear.

Do tell, I know Westies don't mind the banter but I'm a bit miffed at the young Blues being involved.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:06 am

Apparently, so I've been told, a bowler was shoulder charged.
Things may have got a bit heated on the sidelines as a result.
Started on Saturday, rolled into Sunday.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:19 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Apparently, so I've been told, a bowler was shoulder charged.
Things may have got a bit heated on the sidelines as a result.
Started on Saturday, rolled into Sunday.
Whether true or not, I don't know, but that's the story going around.

If you heard it, it probably happened, I'll ask my spies.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:56 am

100% agree about how criticial fielding is especially come finals.

2 examples in my 'career' spring to mind.

At EP our opening bowler Frankie McConnell was also our best first slipper (arguably the best first slipper i have seen in PDCA) We made a decision early in the season that there was no way in hell he would be 'resting' at fine leg after bowling his over. We spoke to the team and we agreed that he needed to be at first slip when not bowling and we would all have to help out with doing our stint at fine leg after he had bowled his over. In the GF against Atco we won with 80 runs on the board with Frankie taking 2 brilliant catches at first slip. Meanwhile Atco dropped 2 catches at first slip while Gary Sutton (another brilliant first slipper) was left standing at fine leg.

The second one being when i was at Atco and we won the div2 premiership late in the season we recognised we were 'weak' in the field and were hiding 4-5 blokes who were either really slow across the ground, couldn't throw etc. We had one spot open in the side which was going to be for someone to bat at 7 and maybe bowl 5 overs at absolute most. The decision was made to pick a bloke who could hold the bat at 7 and rather than potentially bowl he was the best fielder in the club.

That finals series i have no doubt he saved us at least 20-30 runs in an innings in chasing balls down quicker, better throwing arm etc which counted for so much on the bigger Atco oval. This also allowed us to have some of our better gully, point fielders be in those positions rather than covers etc.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:13 pm

I think along similar lines WHUFC.

I don't employ a fine leg ever though, i think bowlers should be disciplined enough to bowl 4th stump lines, if not then bad luck someone else will.. As a result Michael Feltus goes into 1st slip - he's arguably the best slipper i've seen in a very very long time.

For our Grand Final this week as well, I dropped a player who'd played all season for another specialist batsman (player hadn't scored many runs and batted 9/10/11 and didn't bowl much anyway), and opted to select him 12th man because he's one of the best fielders in the club, and field in place of one of the older, less able blokes to bolster our fielding.

Got to play to your strengths, and got to force some pressure on the opposition - fielding wins games..
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby whufc » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:39 pm

Zartan wrote:I think along similar lines WHUFC.

I don't employ a fine leg ever though, i think bowlers should be disciplined enough to bowl 4th stump lines, if not then bad luck someone else will.. As a result Michael Feltus goes into 1st slip - he's arguably the best slipper i've seen in a very very long time.

For our Grand Final this week as well, I dropped a player who'd played all season for another specialist batsman (player hadn't scored many runs and batted 9/10/11 and didn't bowl much anyway), and opted to select him 12th man because he's one of the best fielders in the club, and field in place of one of the older, less able blokes to bolster our fielding.

Got to play to your strengths, and got to force some pressure on the opposition - fielding wins games..


Agree with your thoughts on fine leg as well. One of the most overrated fielding positions in the game.

In saying that we had Franky McConnell and Danny Masefield who both swung the ball in to the right handers. Both bowled at their absolute best when they had a license to attack the stumps and look for LB's and bowled. Thats sort of forced my hand to have a fine leg, otherwise the standard outside off line shouldnt require a fine leg otherwise drag them.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:11 pm

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Zartan wrote:I think along similar lines WHUFC.

I don't employ a fine leg ever though, i think bowlers should be disciplined enough to bowl 4th stump lines, if not then bad luck someone else will.. As a result Michael Feltus goes into 1st slip - he's arguably the best slipper i've seen in a very very long time.

For our Grand Final this week as well, I dropped a player who'd played all season for another specialist batsman (player hadn't scored many runs and batted 9/10/11 and didn't bowl much anyway), and opted to select him 12th man because he's one of the best fielders in the club, and field in place of one of the older, less able blokes to bolster our fielding.

Got to play to your strengths, and got to force some pressure on the opposition - fielding wins games..


Agree with your thoughts on fine leg as well. One of the most overrated fielding positions in the game.

In saying that we had Franky McConnell and Danny Masefield who both swung the ball in to the right handers. Both bowled at their absolute best when they had a license to attack the stumps and look for LB's and bowled. Thats sort of forced my hand to have a fine leg, otherwise the standard outside off line shouldnt require a fine leg otherwise drag them.


Yep only time fine leg is required is on a lightning fast outfield, put a quick bloke at square leg and the one they would normally get generally only turns into a 2. I reckon you save more than that either by having an extra slip and taking wickets or an extra in the ring that saves runs
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby auto » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:So....lots of love in the grade one semi between Craigmore and Salisbury West,, from what I hear.

Batter taking a run slid bat in whilst watching the fielder and ran into the bowler. No shoulder charge or anything like that. Few fielders came in to see if the situation was ok. Players invited round for tea and scones after the game.

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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:46 am

Even I bowled without a fine leg for most of this season.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:55 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Even I bowled without a fine leg for most of this season.
It's new thinking. Smart cricket.


I was too angry as a captain to let too many bowlers have the opportunity, I made sure I was at first slip so I had to chase the ball if they sprayed one down there and they knew it wouldn't be received well.

I'd dangle the carrot at the start of their stint and say if they could go 9 balls outside off I'd make the move, how many times do you think the 10th ball slid down there?
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:38 am

Need a fine leg IMO. Otherwise bowlers don't bowl at the stumps enough. Don't like 7-2 fields either.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:40 am

Tony Clifton wrote:Need a fine leg IMO. Otherwise bowlers don't bowl at the stumps enough. Don't like 7-2 fields either.

If they can move it away then you can get away with trying to feed the slips.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:01 am

Tony Clifton wrote:Need a fine leg IMO. Otherwise bowlers don't bowl at the stumps enough. Don't like 7-2 fields either.

Backward square leg whose quick, and a wide mid off work fine - might give a few singles down to fine leg, but generally most the grounds in the hard wicket comps are lush and slow so not much chance of it racing away for 4.

Besides don't always need to bowl at the stumps - build up a few overs of dots and blokes panic and throw their hands at anything.
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