SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2010/11

[Phantom Gossiper]

Thanks to Auto and The one who does it with goats for their efforts in trying to field u21s sad to say lack of intrest prevented it from happening.It would seem things have changed a lot 95% of todays youth would rather go out all night and get wasted and or sit in front of a screen playing games or talking crap online.I find this in my own work each day they dont want to work or play sport just cruise on through life and acheive nothing . The other 5% are the lads who made every effort to form a side they wanted to play WHAT A FANTASTIC BUNCH OF YOUNG MEN sorry we let you down hope to see you in the senior side with a bit of luck.

What can you do though? See it in every facet of life these days not just cricket. I dont understand it.

[Phantom Gossiper]

And while we're throwing recommendations around.. M.Sanford = natural opener, get him up there..

Can bat..

Might sound bit umm whats the word? Hypocritical? coming from me but if he could improve his fitness i think his cricket would benefit immensely! Obviously increased fitness assists with increased concentration etc and can spend longer periods at the crease.

Only down side ive seen with Sandford is he is a bit suspect to the short ball, especially early on, if he is going to open the batting he needs to put the pull/hook away until he is set.

[One Ball Bandit]

Mr Weinert..i am available for Sunday's game well not really (work) but nothing a sickie wont fix

[Phantom Gossiper]

Mr Weinert..i am available for Sunday's game well not really (work) but nothing a sickie wont fix

Yeah me too herder, ya know if ya looking for that 'X' factor

[Goat Herder]

Mr Weinert..i am available for Sunday's game well not really (work) but nothing a sickie wont fix

Get some phone credit Gulls ya scab.. Good to hear mate! 10am start. Be there at 9am. Probably see you about 9:50am..

We've tried you before Phantom, but you've been about as effective as a claw hammer on a railroad spike..

[auto]

Pidge and Harry MUST go to Sydney, plain and simple. They are our future.

I understand you pushing your boys BB, but at the end of the day I'll stick to my selection philosophies & principles and pick the strongest side from the pool of players available. At the same time, I'm not going to chase blokes either and I'll be rewarding those who have the right attitude, show enthusiasm and put the time & effort in. Both of your boys fit that bill and I've got a lot of time for them both. Whether they are in the best available 12 (SAMCA) or 13 (Carnival), you'll just have to wait and see..

And while we're throwing recommendations around.. M.Sanford = natural opener, get him up there..

I captained superbad last year Goatie, and batted him at 3 with the thought of him being a long term opener. Got him to open on a couple of occasions when i thought the bowling attack would suit him. Somewhere along the track though ive become more unsure of him as an opener. I think he'd do a lot of damage as a four/five. What do you see that would make him a good opener?

Yes he is a kid who just loves to play. Trains more than anyone else, even on non training days will go down the nets for a few hours. Loves to bowl too. Oh and his old lady brings pizza for lunch.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Mr Weinert..i am available for Sunday's game well not really (work) but nothing a sickie wont fix

Get some phone credit Gulls ya scab.. Good to hear mate! 10am start. Be there at 9am. Probably see you about 9:50am..

We've tried you before Phantom, but you've been about as effective as a claw hammer on a railroad spike..

ill stick with what i know best then... drinking on the hill yelling abuse thinking im better than everyone else

[Phantom Gossiper]

What do you see that would make him a good opener?

Style of batting.

[auto]

Not too sure about the short ball comment phantom, plays a fairly good pull shot. The one area i do see a problem is *************** and to me that would mean he would struggle as an opener, tho he has improved this year from last. I still think sheild him a bit at 6 or 7 till he settles into A grade then move him up. Knowing BB tho anything is possible.

[auto]

What do you see that would make him a good opener?

Style of batting.

Openers need temperament, style, technique and other stuff that i still havent worked out yet......we're not all like Bored and can just smash anything over the boundary.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Not too sure about the short ball comment phantom, plays a fairly good pull shot. The one area i do see a problem is *************** and to me that would mean he would struggle as an opener, tho he has improved this year from last. I still think sheild him a bit at 6 or 7 till he settles into A grade then move him up. Knowing BB tho anything is possible.

I had him dropped on abt 6 the other year and he struggled all day with the short ball until he was on about 40 or so, made 56 from memory and batted extremely well and i thought he looked like he would be a handy top 4 bat.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Openers need temperament, style, technique and other stuff that i still havent worked out yet......we're not all like Bored and can just smash anything over the boundary.

well i think he ticks those boxes so whats the issue? The innings i seen him play he batted for a very long period of time and showed great patience and concentration, and played very straight.

[auto]

Def a top 4 bat mate, and along with harry will settle in as long term batsmen/players and leaders at our club.

[Goat Herder]

I captained superbad last year Goatie, and batted him at 3 with the thought of him being a long term opener. Got him to open on a couple of occasions when i thought the bowling attack would suit him. Somewhere along the track though ive become more unsure of him as an opener. I think he'd do a lot of damage as a four/five. What do you see that would make him a good opener?

The decks we're training on have a healthy smattering of grass and it's fair to say they are 'lively'.. Last week at training, J.Smith aside, he handled the moving new ball & extra bounce as well as anyone. His defence was solid and he left the ball really well. Right there are the 2 most important tools to becoming a successful opener. Add to that, he drives reasonably well, he's only 16yo, he listens, he wants to learn, he works hard and he has a passion for the game. He has a lot of improvement left in his technique, shot selection and patience, but apart from Ricky Ponting & Sachin Tendulkar, who else didn't need improvement in those areas of batting when they were 16yo..??


I also maintain he has the ability to bowl half decent leggies if he practiced it all the time at training.

[auto]

Openers need temperament, style, technique and other stuff that i still havent worked out yet......we're not all like Bored and can just smash anything over the boundary.

well i think he ticks those boxes so whats the issue? The innings i seen him play he batted for a very long period of time and showed great patience and concentration, and played very straight.

Im not captain mate. I dont make those decisions. In fact im not allowed to make suggestions during a game (smasha can back me up on that). So its out of my hands. IMO theres an issue i think he needs to work on, as well as settling into A grade without feeding him to the lions. Let him ease in for a year and next year he'll still only be 17/18 and can move up. But as i said it wont take BB long to move him up the order. People like me will bat around the youngsters.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Im not captain mate. I dont make those decisions. In fact im not allowed to make suggestions during a game (smasha can back me up on that). So its out of my hands. IMO theres an issue i think he needs to work on, as well as settling into A grade without feeding him to the lions. Let him ease in for a year and next year he'll still only be 17/18 and can move up. But as i said it wont take BB long to move him up the order. People like me will bat around the youngsters.

True your right in those aspects.

[auto]

Im not captain mate. I dont make those decisions. In fact im not allowed to make suggestions during a game (smasha can back me up on that). So its out of my hands. IMO theres an issue i think he needs to work on, as well as settling into A grade without feeding him to the lions. Let him ease in for a year and next year he'll still only be 17/18 and can move up. But as i said it wont take BB long to move him up the order. People like me will bat around the youngsters.

True your right in those aspects.

They dont call me Mrs Cricket for nothing.

[Goat Herder]

Not too sure about the short ball comment phantom, plays a fairly good pull shot. The one area i do see a problem is *************** and to me that would mean he would struggle as an opener, tho he has improved this year from last. I still think sheild him a bit at 6 or 7 till he settles into A grade then move him up. Knowing BB tho anything is possible.

Respect your opinion mate, but disagree with the bit in bold. He's 16yo, not 12yo. He is mixing it with the best (on the rare occasions we don't get washed out.. ) in the comp right now already and is holding his own. All BS aside mate, I guarantee if you give him a chance - ie; tell him he's doing it for the rest of this year and next - he will surprise you all, himself included. Kids learn so quickly, and what better way to learn the caper of opening the innings than experience it firsthand and learn from your mistakes & successes? You also have to set realistic expectations of him though. The job of opening in it's simplest form is to take the shine off the ball and get the innings off to a decent start with your opening partner - so middle order bully boys like you can take toll.. And if openers kick for a big score past achieving that goal, it's a bonus.

[auto]

Not too sure about the short ball comment phantom, plays a fairly good pull shot. The one area i do see a problem is *************** and to me that would mean he would struggle as an opener, tho he has improved this year from last. I still think sheild him a bit at 6 or 7 till he settles into A grade then move him up. Knowing BB tho anything is possible.

Respect your opinion mate, but disagree with the bit in bold. He's 16yo, not 12yo. He is mixing it with the best (on the rare occasions we don't get washed out.. ) in the comp right now already and is holding his own. All BS aside mate, I guarantee if you give him a chance - ie; tell him he's doing it for the rest of this year and next - he will surprise you all, himself included. Kids learn so quickly, and what better way to learn the caper of opening the innings than experience it firsthand and learn from your mistakes & successes? You also have to set realistic expectations of him too. The job of opening in it's simplest form is to take the shine off the ball and get the innings off to a decent start with your opening partner - so middle order bully boys like you can take toll.. And if openers kick for a big score past achieving that goal, it's a bonus.

He wont surprise me at all

[Phantom Gossiper]

Im not captain mate. I dont make those decisions. In fact im not allowed to make suggestions during a game (smasha can back me up on that). So its out of my hands. IMO theres an issue i think he needs to work on, as well as settling into A grade without feeding him to the lions. Let him ease in for a year and next year he'll still only be 17/18 and can move up. But as i said it wont take BB long to move him up the order. People like me will bat around the youngsters.

True your right in those aspects.

They dont call me Mrs Cricket for nothing.

Thought it was because you offered Hussey fellatio for an autograph