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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:57 pm

carey wrote:
hotpies wrote:
Smasha wrote:who cares who is captain and who isnt....decision made .
as to rocking up to training and get a gig...get a life mate.
if more people turn up to these trainings (myself included) then it would be who ever is better would be picked.
bit hard to say no your not playing to anyone who turns up as maybe only had 13 players to choose from.
pull ya heads in and put your bloody hands up yourselves.
holland has proven his captaincy, and gets respect from all players in the side.
reasonable side , atca are strong , they may belt churches but at least these 13 players are having a go . better than a forfeit I would have thought.
before you bag a side , at least play a game of assoc cricket ya tools......smasha will keep on truckin ... :lol: ;)
good luck guys.

Get off your high horse sunshine like I said I merely asked some hard hitting questions which some people may want to know the answer too. Can I not have an opinion or be honest on here? or does this just apply to you Hero?

Is it true Ian Henderson rocked up to training and was told sorry you're not required? The bloke is twice the player Stanford is and don't give me this 'Youth' crap because McDonald, Reidy, Clarke & Holland aren't exactly spring chickens. Hasn't he played the last 3 seasons on turf? I know whenever i've played against him he shows a lot of emotion and has a never say die attitude, not like the weak youth of today!


Hotpies whilst were on the topic of Ian Henderson being at training you would obvisouly know who rang him and got him out to training then??? That would be Holland as he knows the standard of player Hendo is and has seen it first hand and has a huge amount of respect for what he has achieved and the way he plays his game.

Yes Hendo has played on turf and his experience would've been great but at nearly 40 years old and a carnival coming up maybe and just a maybe some younger blokes may get more out of facing the ATCA attack than what Hendo would.

So whilst your point of Hendo being a better player right now, you may be right but in the overall terms and big picture i think the selection was warranted to leave Hendo out and who knows its only tuesday and Hendo is 1st emg. so all this talk may be a waste and he may play yet.......

Then pick the bloke FFS!
Call me old fashioned but I go by the old motto of "you play your best side" especially against ATCA. Well done for calling Hendo and getting him to training, maybe you should coach the team also.

Reidy, McDonald, Clarke, Holland & Hodson all over 30 and i'm sure if Smasha (my hero ;;) ) put his hand up he would of been picked also so don't give us this 'youth policy' crud!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Jugs » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:00 pm

About time this forum fired up. Bores the hell out of me. For what it's worth here's my side if goat herder had everyone available in batting order.

Borgas
Hodson
Smith
McDonald
Reidy
Mills
Marshall
Balding
Clarke
Nitschke
Spry
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby playon » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:03 pm

carey wrote:
hotpies wrote:
Smasha wrote:who cares who is captain and who isnt....decision made .
as to rocking up to training and get a gig...get a life mate.
if more people turn up to these trainings (myself included) then it would be who ever is better would be picked.
bit hard to say no your not playing to anyone who turns up as maybe only had 13 players to choose from.
pull ya heads in and put your bloody hands up yourselves.
holland has proven his captaincy, and gets respect from all players in the side.
reasonable side , atca are strong , they may belt churches but at least these 13 players are having a go . better than a forfeit I would have thought.
before you bag a side , at least play a game of assoc cricket ya tools......smasha will keep on truckin ... :lol: ;)
good luck guys.

Get off your high horse sunshine like I said I merely asked some hard hitting questions which some people may want to know the answer too. Can I not have an opinion or be honest on here? or does this just apply to you Hero?

Is it true Ian Henderson rocked up to training and was told sorry you're not required? The bloke is twice the player Stanford is and don't give me this 'Youth' crap because McDonald, Reidy, Clarke & Holland aren't exactly spring chickens. Hasn't he played the last 3 seasons on turf? I know whenever i've played against him he shows a lot of emotion and has a never say die attitude, not like the weak youth of today!


Hotpies whilst were on the topic of Ian Henderson being at training you would obvisouly know who rang him and got him out to training then??? That would be Holland as he knows the standard of player Hendo is and has seen it first hand and has a huge amount of respect for what he has achieved and the way he plays his game.

Yes Hendo has played on turf and his experience would've been great but at nearly 40 years old and a carnival coming up maybe and just a maybe some younger blokes may get more out of facing the ATCA attack than what Hendo would.

So whilst your point of Hendo being a better player right now, you may be right but in the overall terms and big picture i think the selection was warranted to leave Hendo out and who knows its only tuesday and Hendo is 1st emg. so all this talk may be a waste and he may play yet.......


Why call and invite this hendo bloke out to training knowing that your not going to pick him cause he is 40 and too old?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby carey » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:07 pm

Becaue had the u/21 game gone ahead playon Hendo would've played in the senior side but the cancellation of the u/21's it was decided right or wrong to promote youth with the carnival at the end of the year.

I hope this clears that up.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby playon » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:09 pm

carey wrote:Becaue had the u/21 game gone ahead playon Hendo would've played in the senior side but the cancellation of the u/21's it was decided right or wrong to promote youth with the carnival at the end of the year.

I hope this clears that up.


Thank you, it clears the haze a bit, how many we're at training?

Is it a t20 game?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby frontfoot » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:00 pm

carey wrote:Becaue had the u/21 game gone ahead playon Hendo would've played in the senior side but the cancellation of the u/21's it was decided right or wrong to promote youth with the carnival at the end of the year.

I hope this clears that up.

Have read a few pages of this and don't understand. Is this carnival under age? If not pick your best possible team regardless of age. The last couple of seasons this comp has been embarrassed by there results.
You continue to pick guys who are just not good enough. Project players what crap. No use having project players if u haven't got a comp!
These blokes just live of brown noseing certain people and stroking there egos. No wonder u blokes are a joke
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Goat Herder » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:11 pm

frontfoot wrote:
carey wrote:Becaue had the u/21 game gone ahead playon Hendo would've played in the senior side but the cancellation of the u/21's it was decided right or wrong to promote youth with the carnival at the end of the year.

I hope this clears that up.

Have read a few pages of this and don't understand. Is this carnival under age? If not pick your best possible team regardless of age. The last couple of seasons this comp has been embarrassed by there results.
You continue to pick guys who are just not good enough. Project players what crap. No use having project players if u haven't got a comp!
These blokes just live of brown noseing certain people and stroking there egos. No wonder u blokes are a joke


So cleaning up PDCA by 9 wickets and belting 9 shades of shyte outta ASCA was a joke as well?? :roll: :lol: Do your research spanker. ;)
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Wizard of Oz » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:33 pm

OKC! wrote:
Dancing in the rain wrote:
duffett will make a 100 off 40 balls with that bowling line up



To be fair he will do that against most sides....


Mo Shiek is my call for man of the match here... Very good cricketer.

Oh, Dutchy... Just bowl short to Duff ;)
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby hotpies » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:46 pm

Goat Herder wrote:
hotpies wrote:Why do you have to ring EVERY single player in Div 1 & 2 and beg them to play? Surely you'd ring 10 - 15 guys who you've been watching during the year (please tell me you do go out and watch games?) and tell them you have your eye on them for bigger honors and would love for them to try out for the team. Players love their ego stroked just ask Bara :) I doubt they'll tell you where to go. As coach isn't it part of your job to source the best players possible to form your team? This whole 'here's the date for training, rock up and see how you go' thing is amateurish especially in a comp as small as churches you should be trying to get your best team on the part every time you play!

And hey if you read my very first sentence I said "Not a bad squad" merely had some questions I wanted answered, you are the ones who got all defensive :D


a) Emails were sent out to 20+ of the best players in our comp, REGARDLESS of age. I don't have time to ring 20+ blokes.
b) As you well know, fishing is my passion. I don't go out to 5-6 matches per week, but have current playing contacts I respect greatly who keep me informed, as well as black'n white MyCricket stats. So a average of 10 and 4 or 5 wickets gets u a start!
c) YOU thrive on having your ego stroked mate, not everyone is a narcissistic wannabe. Mate u dont even know me so not sure where this is from
d) The vast majority of our comp aren't interested in SAMCA competition - they've either fed up with cricket ruling their entire weekends for years (Mills), have family responsibilities (Marshall) or just plain not interested (Nitschke). You reckon I haven't sounded these blokes out?? Fair f**ken dinkum.. :roll: Smith is injured, but he was keen as mustard before Xmas. YES, you read right!! Emails were sent out BEFORE Xmas. :evil:
e) This IS our best side from the players available, with opportun ities given to younger blokes for THEIR own good and experience at this level against quality players. Yes it is isnt it!

I hope this clears up the questions being fired off by the vastly uninformed. :roll:
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby One Ball Bandit » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:
OKC! wrote:
Dancing in the rain wrote:
duffett will make a 100 off 40 balls with that bowling line up



To be fair he will do that against most sides....


The following players chosen to represent the ATCA would neeed to be present at the ground by 9.45am.
Luke Harrington (c)
Justin Ifould
Brad Campbell
Andrew Warner
Joel Southam
Andrew Lee
Muhammad Sheikh
Paul Cree
David Sampson
Matthew Hague
Jake Boerema

No Duffett!!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby playon » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:18 pm

hotpies wrote:
carey wrote:
hotpies wrote:
Smasha wrote:who cares who is captain and who isnt....decision made .
as to rocking up to training and get a gig...get a life mate.
if more people turn up to these trainings (myself included) then it would be who ever is better would be picked.
bit hard to say no your not playing to anyone who turns up as maybe only had 13 players to choose from.
pull ya heads in and put your bloody hands up yourselves.
holland has proven his captaincy, and gets respect from all players in the side.
reasonable side , atca are strong , they may belt churches but at least these 13 players are having a go . better than a forfeit I would have thought.
before you bag a side , at least play a game of assoc cricket ya tools......smasha will keep on truckin ... :lol: ;)
good luck guys.

Get off your high horse sunshine like I said I merely asked some hard hitting questions which some people may want to know the answer too. Can I not have an opinion or be honest on here? or does this just apply to you Hero?

Is it true Ian Henderson rocked up to training and was told sorry you're not required? The bloke is twice the player Stanford is and don't give me this 'Youth' crap because McDonald, Reidy, Clarke & Holland aren't exactly spring chickens. Hasn't he played the last 3 seasons on turf? I know whenever i've played against him he shows a lot of emotion and has a never say die attitude, not like the weak youth of today!


Hotpies whilst were on the topic of Ian Henderson being at training you would obvisouly know who rang him and got him out to training then??? That would be Holland as he knows the standard of player Hendo is and has seen it first hand and has a huge amount of respect for what he has achieved and the way he plays his game.

Yes Hendo has played on turf and his experience would've been great but at nearly 40 years old and a carnival coming up maybe and just a maybe some younger blokes may get more out of facing the ATCA attack than what Hendo would.

So whilst your point of Hendo being a better player right now, you may be right but in the overall terms and big picture i think the selection was warranted to leave Hendo out and who knows its only tuesday and Hendo is 1st emg. so all this talk may be a waste and he may play yet.......

Then pick the bloke FFS!
Call me old fashioned but I go by the old motto of "you play your best side" especially against ATCA. Well done for calling Hendo and getting him to training, maybe you should coach the team also.

Reidy, McDonald, Clarke, Holland & Hodson all over 30 and i'm sure if Smasha (my hero ;;) ) put his hand up he would of been picked also so don't give us this 'youth policy' crud!


I assume there is a selection panel that would decide on the night what team to go with, assume this would be the captain and coach?? Buck stops with them I suppose
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:36 pm

One Ball Bandit wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:
OKC! wrote:
Dancing in the rain wrote:
duffett will make a 100 off 40 balls with that bowling line up



To be fair he will do that against most sides....


The following players chosen to represent the ATCA would neeed to be present at the ground by 9.45am.
Luke Harrington (c)
Justin Ifould
Brad Campbell
Andrew Warner
Joel Southam
Andrew Lee
Muhammad Sheikh
Paul Cree
David Sampson
Matthew Hague
Jake Boerema

No Duffett!!

I don't think it matters whether he plays or not. Good luck to our boys but playing an ATCA rep side on a turf deck isn't ideal for our guys. When was the last time we played them on a hard wicket btw?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby OKC! » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:42 pm

Noel Craig wrote:I don't think it matters whether he plays or not. Good luck to our boys but playing an ATCA rep side on a turf deck isn't ideal for our guys. When was the last time we played them on a hard wicket btw?


Not too sure, but didnt you guys play PDCA on turf last year?
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Noel Craig » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:45 pm

OKC! wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:I don't think it matters whether he plays or not. Good luck to our boys but playing an ATCA rep side on a turf deck isn't ideal for our guys. When was the last time we played them on a hard wicket btw?


Not too sure, but didnt you guys play PDCA on turf last year?

I'm not to sure. That would have been a rather bizarre decision if they in fact did though.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby bored » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:16 pm

hotpies wrote:Reidy, McDonald, Clarke, Holland & Hodson all over 30 and i'm sure if Smasha (my hero ;;) ) put his hand up he would of been picked also so don't give us this 'youth policy' crud!

thanks for the reminder im in the plus 30 club :evil: :(

and bring on the weekend, i dont care what everyone thinks the outcome will be im looking forward to it!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby auto » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:30 pm

Jugs wrote:About time this forum fired up. Bores the hell out of me. For what it's worth here's my side if goat herder had everyone available in batting order.

Borgas
Hodson
Smith
McDonald
Reidy
Mills
Marshall
Balding
Clarke
Nitschke
Spry



Good side young jugs, i think i would pick the exact same side minus Hoddo and bring in Holland with a reshuffle of the batting order.
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:27 am

Goat Herder wrote:You sure you're not PG/Rockstar as well hotpies, given they're one of his favourite foods?? ;) :lol:

Oi ya mug, knock it off!! I might enjoy some nice hot pies but FFS thats the pot calling the kettle black you big fat walrus!
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:31 am

Noel Craig wrote:
OKC! wrote:
Noel Craig wrote:I don't think it matters whether he plays or not. Good luck to our boys but playing an ATCA rep side on a turf deck isn't ideal for our guys. When was the last time we played them on a hard wicket btw?


Not too sure, but didnt you guys play PDCA on turf last year?

I'm not to sure. That would have been a rather bizarre decision if they in fact did though.

I played in the game a few years ago when SACCA moved their home game to the turf deck at Golden Grove? against PDCA.. we won by 8 wickets IIRC.
Tbe point im getting at Noel is the SACCA make decisions not based on the shit house SAMCA programme but their own national carnival which is a lot more important and prestigious.

...
Oh wait now that I think of it, yes SACCA did play PDCA last year on turf at Greenacres FC on a wet deck..
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby dark & stormy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:34 am

hotpies wrote:
carey wrote:
hotpies wrote:
Smasha wrote:who cares who is captain and who isnt....decision made .
as to rocking up to training and get a gig...get a life mate.
if more people turn up to these trainings (myself included) then it would be who ever is better would be picked.
bit hard to say no your not playing to anyone who turns up as maybe only had 13 players to choose from.
pull ya heads in and put your bloody hands up yourselves.
holland has proven his captaincy, and gets respect from all players in the side.
reasonable side , atca are strong , they may belt churches but at least these 13 players are having a go . better than a forfeit I would have thought.
before you bag a side , at least play a game of assoc cricket ya tools......smasha will keep on truckin ... :lol: ;)
good luck guys.

Get off your high horse sunshine like I said I merely asked some hard hitting questions which some people may want to know the answer too. Can I not have an opinion or be honest on here? or does this just apply to you Hero?

Is it true Ian Henderson rocked up to training and was told sorry you're not required? The bloke is twice the player Stanford is and don't give me this 'Youth' crap because McDonald, Reidy, Clarke & Holland aren't exactly spring chickens. Hasn't he played the last 3 seasons on turf? I know whenever i've played against him he shows a lot of emotion and has a never say die attitude, not like the weak youth of today!


Hotpies whilst were on the topic of Ian Henderson being at training you would obvisouly know who rang him and got him out to training then??? That would be Holland as he knows the standard of player Hendo is and has seen it first hand and has a huge amount of respect for what he has achieved and the way he plays his game.

Yes Hendo has played on turf and his experience would've been great but at nearly 40 years old and a carnival coming up maybe and just a maybe some younger blokes may get more out of facing the ATCA attack than what Hendo would.

So whilst your point of Hendo being a better player right now, you may be right but in the overall terms and big picture i think the selection was warranted to leave Hendo out and who knows its only tuesday and Hendo is 1st emg. so all this talk may be a waste and he may play yet.......

Then pick the bloke FFS!
Call me old fashioned but I go by the old motto of "you play your best side" especially against ATCA. Well done for calling Hendo and getting him to training, maybe you should coach the team also.

Reidy, McDonald, Clarke, Holland & Hodson all over 30 and i'm sure if Smasha (my hero ;;) ) put his hand up he would of been picked also so don't give us this 'youth policy' crud!

mate the only person I am a hero to is my son....
I probably would have been picked in the starting 11 for the assoc team , going by my stats I think i WOULD HAVE DESERVED THE RIGHT TO PLAY. AND AS SOME SAY JUST ROCK UP AND PLAY IS CRAP. and yes I am also over 40, big deal, still get wickets , still open the bowling, still make runs ...oh hang on that last one not so true this season :oops:
dont think age has anything to do with it, and if you make it a young side with no experienced players , you will struggle.
goat herder is the right man for the job and you cant juge him when you dont know him, no one works harder than he does when it comes to rep sides, except for OB and AUTO last year. to be honest to all that want to bag and moan and groan.....
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Re: SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

Postby bar20 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:41 am

Smasha wrote:mate the only person I am a hero to is my son....
I probably would have been picked in the starting 11 for the assoc team , going by my stats I think i WOULD HAVE DESERVED THE RIGHT TO PLAY. AND AS SOME SAY JUST ROCK UP AND PLAY IS CRAP. and yes I am also over 40, big deal, still get wickets , still open the bowling, still make runs ...oh hang on that last one not so true this season :oops:
dont think age has anything to do with it, and if you make it a young side with no experienced players , you will struggle.
goat herder is the right man for the job and you cant juge him when you dont know him, no one works harder than he does when it comes to rep sides, except for OB and AUTO last year. to be honest to all that want to bag and moan and groan.....
YOU HAVE A GO...EITHER COACH OR PLAY...... and see how you go....at least we are willing to have a crack.
dont ever be shy .....you can come and talk to me anytime and discuss anything cricket related .....
you know who I am , if not just ask and someone will point you in the right direction. we can talk about assoc team :twisted:

Because i'm bored and have no life I thought i'd go through some of the stats and if that's what we're picking on this "old" bloke you're all talking about in Ian Henderson should get a start before you Smasha. Also how does a kid who averages 10 with the bat get in the side?
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