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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Mon May 26, 2008 9:54 pm

Lightening , do u still play? If so in what league?
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 9:05 am

norm11 wrote:Lightening , do u still play? If so in what league?


Yeah mate, PDCA
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 10:05 am

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norm11 wrote:Lightening , do u still play? If so in what league?


Yeah mate, PDCA

What do u think the best way forward is for the pdca? something has to happen. Lets see if Two Wells can take some more div one players from other teams with money this year cause thats all they got to offer
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 11:29 am

Gradings based on finishes for 2007/08

A1 Two Wells, Salisbury West, Sandy Creek, Brahma Lodge, Virginia, ATCO
A2 One Tree Hill, Rose & Crown, Eastern Park, Craigmore, Central United, Smithfield
A3 Para Teachers, Playford, Central Districts, Angle Vale, St. Pauls, Salisbury North
A4 Riverside, Wasleys, Parafield Gardens, Willaston, North Pines, Elizabeth East
B GRADE DIVISIONS UNLESS STATED
B1 Salisbury West, Para Teachers, One Tree Hill, Sandy Creek, Brahma Lodge, Craigmore
B2 ATCO, Central United, Smithfield, Angle Vale, Salisbury West (C), Eastern Park
B3 Brahma Lodge (C), Rose & Crown, Virginia, Salisbury North, Playford, Elizabeth East
B4 Salisbury West (D), Parafield Gardens, Smithfield (C), Para Teachers (C), Central United (C)
C GRADE DIVISIONS UNLESS STATED
C1 Angle Vale, ATCO, Salisbury North, Salisbury West (E), Brahma Lodge (D), Sandy Creek
C2 Elizabeth East, Craigmore, Virginia, Riverside (B), Playford, Para Teachers (D)
C3 ATCO (D), Sandy Creek (D), Craigmore (D) & any other teams that wants to give kids a game in seniors

Of course it's hard to predict who will nominate how many sides and the way that Salisbury West & Brahma Lodge are always so strong all the way through makes it hard for grading purposes but this is my opinion.

I would suggest each team plays a one-dayer, a two dayer and a twenty/20 match against each opponent, the twenty/20 games would be around december when everyone wants to leave early for x-mas shows. There should be bonus points for bowling teams out for bugger all and getting the runs quickly for the shorter version games.

There is lots of ways to move forward, these are just some options that should come into consideration, I'm no genius and don't expect everyone to share the same views, just want to see the competition move forward.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby james07 » Tue May 27, 2008 11:43 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Gradings based on finishes for 2007/08

A1 Two Wells, Salisbury West, Sandy Creek, Brahma Lodge, Virginia, ATCO
A2 One Tree Hill, Rose & Crown, Eastern Park, Craigmore, Central United, Smithfield
A3 Para Teachers, Playford, Central Districts, Angle Vale, St. Pauls, Salisbury North
A4 Riverside, Wasleys, Parafield Gardens, Willaston, North Pines, Elizabeth East
B GRADE DIVISIONS UNLESS STATED
B1 Salisbury West, Para Teachers, One Tree Hill, Sandy Creek, Brahma Lodge, Craigmore
B2 ATCO, Central United, Smithfield, Angle Vale, Salisbury West (C), Eastern Park
B3 Brahma Lodge (C), Rose & Crown, Virginia, Salisbury North, Playford, Elizabeth East
B4 Salisbury West (D), Parafield Gardens, Smithfield (C), Para Teachers (C), Central United (C)
C GRADE DIVISIONS UNLESS STATED
C1 Angle Vale, ATCO, Salisbury North, Salisbury West (E), Brahma Lodge (D), Sandy Creek
C2 Elizabeth East, Craigmore, Virginia, Riverside (B), Playford, Para Teachers (D)
C3 ATCO (D), Sandy Creek (D), Craigmore (D) & any other teams that wants to give kids a game in seniors

Of course it's hard to predict who will nominate how many sides and the way that Salisbury West & Brahma Lodge are always so strong all the way through makes it hard for grading purposes but this is my opinion.

I would suggest each team plays a one-dayer, a two dayer and a twenty/20 match against each opponent, the twenty/20 games would be around december when everyone wants to leave early for x-mas shows. There should be bonus points for bowling teams out for bugger all and getting the runs quickly for the shorter version games.

There is lots of ways to move forward, these are just some options that should come into consideration, I'm no genius and don't expect everyone to share the same views, just want to see the competition move forward.



I have heard that they are looking at 20/20 games for the season regular. I hope this doesnt happen as it would make this comp a joke. The 20/20 comp that the PDCA ran 2 years age was a flop with very little sides showing interest.
I can see the basis for 6 a side divs but i thought the current format of promotion and relagation worked well. What hurt the lower grades was the pdca allowing teams to pull out their highest grade and leave the lower ones in or even worst dont nominate and then field a team just before the season and state its onlt a kids team and be placed in div 9 as did two wells. I feel the new format could potentially damage the developement of sides like sals west whos B grade was in Div 2 and now they are placed in a lower grade.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 12:05 pm

I think that some teams ruined the 20/20 and it wasn't the best idea to play it on a Wednesday night, it would be a crowd puller on a weekend. Sandy Creek would have had problems getting to the Salisbury based teams on time and vice versa.

The Salisbury West issue would need to be looked at carefully, their C grade was probably a better side by the end of the year, but, they were throwing kids up into div 2 which would help them out in the long run, the kids seemed to be keen enough to be up there and they didn't disgrace themselves by any means.

I think they have a fair case whatever grading that they'd like to see, it would be different if they had express bowlers sending them down in the lower divisions, but they don't.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 12:57 pm

U have thought about it alot lightning. Would rather 10 one day games instead of 20 20 games not a fan at all. Are u on pdca committie? Have u put thos divs forward to them?
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 pm

norm11 wrote:U have thought about it alot lightning. Would rather 10 one day games instead of 20 20 games not a fan at all. Are u on pdca committie? Have u put thos divs forward to them?


No, I'm not on the committee, the only reason I suggest 20/20 matches is the fact that so many players have other engagements on saturday evenings in december, it is a pain in the arse to have people wanting to leave at 4:30, 5 or whenever, would they leave early if they were 70 not out, at least the games would finish early and it wouldn't stuff selection around.

I'm not even sure that i'm going to be our club delegate anymore, I'll probably still go to the AGM though and then handball my duties and assist someone else.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 1:10 pm

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norm11 wrote:U have thought about it alot lightning. Would rather 10 one day games instead of 20 20 games not a fan at all. Are u on pdca committie? Have u put thos divs forward to them?


No, I'm not on the committee, the only reason I suggest 20/20 matches is the fact that so many players have other engagements on saturday evenings in december, it is a pain in the arse to have people wanting to leave at 4:30, 5 or whenever, would they leave early if they were 70 not out, at least the games would finish early and it wouldn't stuff selection around.

I'm not even sure that i'm going to be our club delegate anymore, I'll probably still go to the AGM though and then handball my duties and assist someone else.

good reasons for it yes but personally just dont like the 20 20 game
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 1:15 pm

norm11 wrote:
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norm11 wrote:U have thought about it alot lightning. Would rather 10 one day games instead of 20 20 games not a fan at all. Are u on pdca committie? Have u put thos divs forward to them?


No, I'm not on the committee, the only reason I suggest 20/20 matches is the fact that so many players have other engagements on saturday evenings in december, it is a pain in the arse to have people wanting to leave at 4:30, 5 or whenever, would they leave early if they were 70 not out, at least the games would finish early and it wouldn't stuff selection around.

I'm not even sure that i'm going to be our club delegate anymore, I'll probably still go to the AGM though and then handball my duties and assist someone else.

good reasons for it yes but personally just dont like the 20 20 game


Yeah, it's ok for a bit of fun, but it's not real cricket. I find cricket like a game of chess, hold on to some big moves and move in when you are ready to launch an attack, give the opposition a false sense of security, this can't be done in 20/20, you can just get away with it in the 40 over matches.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 1:22 pm

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norm11 wrote:
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norm11 wrote:U have thought about it alot lightning. Would rather 10 one day games instead of 20 20 games not a fan at all. Are u on pdca committie? Have u put thos divs forward to them?


No, I'm not on the committee, the only reason I suggest 20/20 matches is the fact that so many players have other engagements on saturday evenings in december, it is a pain in the arse to have people wanting to leave at 4:30, 5 or whenever, would they leave early if they were 70 not out, at least the games would finish early and it wouldn't stuff selection around.

I'm not even sure that i'm going to be our club delegate anymore, I'll probably still go to the AGM though and then handball my duties and assist someone else.

good reasons for it yes but personally just dont like the 20 20 game


Yeah, it's ok for a bit of fun, but it's not real cricket. I find cricket like a game of chess, hold on to some big moves and move in when you are ready to launch an attack, give the opposition a false sense of security, this can't be done in 20/20, you can just get away with it in the 40 over matches.

I always treated it as a slap and giggle game. thats how we treated it on wednesday nights . It was all over before u knew it. But maybe if it was for real points it would be different
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 1:40 pm

In one day games the team batting second should be aloud to bat on after passing the other teams score. that would alow u to earn more points for bowling the other team out cheaply. Also give the team that got out cheap to earn more to by taking wickets
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 2:08 pm

norm11 wrote:In one day games the team batting second should be aloud to bat on after passing the other teams score. that would alow u to earn more points for bowling the other team out cheaply. Also give the team that got out cheap to earn more to by taking wickets


Sorry Norm, can't agree, the fielders would just take off if the 2nd team was 0/50 after cleaning up the first team for 45. There should be 1 extra point for winning with more than 10 overs to spare, 2 extra points for winning with more than 20 overs to spare and 3 extra points for winning with more than 30 overs to spare.

When you take into consideration that you need 100 runs or 5 wickets to collect 1 point, suddenly you can turn a 50 run chase into 3 bonus points which would equate to scoring 350 runs. It would eliminate teams batting first when they are playing against the bottom side, full of kids when they know they are going to trounce them. They can have an early finish then go and support their A grade.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 2:14 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
norm11 wrote:In one day games the team batting second should be aloud to bat on after passing the other teams score. that would alow u to earn more points for bowling the other team out cheaply. Also give the team that got out cheap to earn more to by taking wickets


Sorry Norm, can't agree, the fielders would just take off if the 2nd team was 0/50 after cleaning up the first team for 45. There should be 1 extra point for winning with more than 10 overs to spare, 2 extra points for winning with more than 20 overs to spare and 3 extra points for winning with more than 30 overs to spare.

When you take into consideration that you need 100 runs or 5 wickets to collect 1 point, suddenly you can turn a 50 run chase into 3 bonus points which would equate to scoring 350 runs. It would eliminate teams batting first when they are playing against the bottom side, full of kids when they know they are going to trounce them. They can have an early finish then go and support their A grade.

Good idea to lightning. need something in place thats for sure. I have to admit ur idea does sound better.I dont admit i am wrong very often
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 2:57 pm

norm11 wrote:
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norm11 wrote:In one day games the team batting second should be aloud to bat on after passing the other teams score. that would alow u to earn more points for bowling the other team out cheaply. Also give the team that got out cheap to earn more to by taking wickets


Sorry Norm, can't agree, the fielders would just take off if the 2nd team was 0/50 after cleaning up the first team for 45. There should be 1 extra point for winning with more than 10 overs to spare, 2 extra points for winning with more than 20 overs to spare and 3 extra points for winning with more than 30 overs to spare.

When you take into consideration that you need 100 runs or 5 wickets to collect 1 point, suddenly you can turn a 50 run chase into 3 bonus points which would equate to scoring 350 runs. It would eliminate teams batting first when they are playing against the bottom side, full of kids when they know they are going to trounce them. They can have an early finish then go and support their A grade.

Good idea to lightning. need something in place thats for sure. I have to admit ur idea does sound better.I dont admit i am wrong very often


Well you've got to keep people interested, it's human nature to throw in the towel once you've been defeated. You see it so many times, a team scores 300+ then cleans the opposition up for Jacks, after North Pines got all out for 11, it was only fair that thier opposition should be rewarded with maximum points, instead they would've got 8.12.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 2:59 pm

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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 27, 2008 3:47 pm

norm11 wrote:Do u mind if i ask what clubur with ? pm if u like


If I told you, you would know who I am immediately, I kind of like getting on here whether it's footy or cricket and having a point of view where no one stereotypes you as they don't know who you are. I have my suspicions on who you are, I like the suspense of not knowing for sure.

Sorry mate, you will have a laugh to yourself once you've worked it out.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 3:58 pm

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norm11 wrote:Do u mind if i ask what clubur with ? pm if u like


If I told you, you would know who I am immediately, I kind of like getting on here whether it's footy or cricket and having a point of view where no one stereotypes you as they don't know who you are. I have my suspicions on who you are, I like the suspense of not knowing for sure.

Sorry mate, you will have a laugh to yourself once you've worked it out.

Im not smart enough to work it out . Fair enough though.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby james07 » Tue May 27, 2008 4:00 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
norm11 wrote:Do u mind if i ask what clubur with ? pm if u like


If I told you, you would know who I am immediately, I kind of like getting on here whether it's footy or cricket and having a point of view where no one stereotypes you as they don't know who you are. I have my suspicions on who you are, I like the suspense of not knowing for sure.

Sorry mate, you will have a laugh to yourself once you've worked it out.


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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association

Postby norm11 » Tue May 27, 2008 4:01 pm

james07 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
norm11 wrote:Do u mind if i ask what clubur with ? pm if u like


If I told you, you would know who I am immediately, I kind of like getting on here whether it's footy or cricket and having a point of view where no one stereotypes you as they don't know who you are. I have my suspicions on who you are, I like the suspense of not knowing for sure.

Sorry mate, you will have a laugh to yourself once you've worked it out.


Sounds like you two should get a room

Sounds like ur jelous
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