Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2011/12

[CoverKing]

Not sure that the umpired like Steven too much bloods - he does after all speak his mind, and that makes quite a few of them uncomfortable

It isn't about whether they like him or not it should be on performances only.

Nothing wrong with speaking your mind anyway i think.

Performance, not according to CK 's stats !!!

Harsh man tubs haha

[storyoftheyear]

I agree... looking back on the games we played in there was some very very odd votes handed out... how a bloke who won the bowling trophy with 41 wickets for the season got less votes than his captain is beyond me.

I do suppose its all relative to the match itself, but looking back on the votes I believe that on quite a few occasions this season the umpires have predetermined a players reputation and expectations of their reputation but given votes to a different player who plays above their normal performance but acutally contributes less to the match. CK's example applies here.

[Amateur Footy]

I think Moe is spot on. Hold it leading up to the GF like footy leagues do.

[Deep Heat]

The whole medal system is a joke not saying Daniel Rowe isnt a good cricketer but was definately not the best player in the competition this year half these umpires wouldnt know the names of the players in there games and only give votes to guys like Daniel and Robbie because thats the only names they know A medal of this honour should not be left in the hands of these peanuts it should be done on a points system per runs and wickets as thats what makes you a good cricketer making runs or taking wickets not whether the umpire remembers your name or whether he likes you or not . Thats why noone goes to these nights because its a joke . Daniel had an average year for someone of his ability and his team won f++k all games does not make sense

[Moe]

Not a bad idea except the association love the fact the trophys and the runner up certificates are awarded at the presentation night as well. Trophy places would make it hard to have the said trophies back In 9 days time, although its not impossible.
I think it Is about time we have a more formal night, especially for the hewett medal! All Phil Davis did was read out Roweys stats, give him the medal and that was it. I can't even recall second and third being read out.

These can be given out at the AGM, afterall, the teams who win GF's get given the premiership cup after the game itself, and quite frankly, the certificate itself does not mean as much as the cup.(Or am I wrong?).

[Moe]

When would you have it Moe ? easy to bag the committee but come up with an alternative option ......

Interesting to see on the ASCA website the past winners of section 1, is that right that Coro have not won the flag since 54/55 ? long time between drinks out there, boys must be getting pretty thirsty

Ok then, here are the reasons I think Tuesday night was a bad call.
1. Night before a public holiday where people might be taking time to get away.
2. Night before a very important day to most Australians who are getting up at 4.30am to get the family or just themselves ready for the dawn service.
3. A football training night for a lot of players.
4. It is 5 weeks since the bloody grand finals.

When would I have it? Well I am glad you asked!!
Wednesday night of Grand Final week. Is that pinpointed enough for ya?
Held at a neutral venue, (I work at a place that would do it), every club to have a table of 8 minimum(Max $20 per head). Sit down dinner, medal count on the big screen. Presentation of all awards. Hall of Famers announced, live music (maybe one direction ).
Could even have a guest speaker, you know, maybe even a CRICKETER !!
But I digress. This could be one of the pinicles of our season, and one where committee members can enjoy a night after a season of hard yakka, and where all award winners can be acknowledged by a room full of their peers.
How's that for you FIAJAA11

All nice in theory Moe but in years gone by people don't turn up to an event where the food and drinks are free when the next day isn't a public holiday, not that i see that as being a negative. How do we think we are going to get more people to something more formal which they have to pay for.

All of these things would be good and i agree the Hewett medal presentation could be done differently and better but i suggest people put their hand up for the association committee and share their thoughts there.

This is how you do it Bloods: Whack $160 onto the association fees for the clubs. The night is then paid for by the ASCA committee from their coffers, because they already have the $$. Then every club has paid for a table of 8, and therefore have an obligation to attend, or lose out.
Now, at club level, the said club can choose to invite people at their own discretion, say, either sponsors, volunteers or players who might be in with a chance of a medal or have won a trophy. Then they can allot tickets to committee members, supporters etc., and decide to have them free or charge $20 for them and recoup some of that initial outlay of $160.
Quite frankly, as I was President of our club last season, I would not even give a second thought to paying this extra money at the start of the season, as I would have loved to been able to reward some of our hard working committee members with a small token of appreciation from our club, with a free night out, and had some people there to congratulate Steven on his Assoc. Batting trophy.

There are also other awards which could be given out as well, which the Association does not seem to embrace. CLUB PERSON OF THE YEAR. (Submissions made by each club for 1 individual at their club) & as done in District Cricket, CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP. I have been thinking of this for a long time, and if anyone on this forum is interested, I will post how it could work.
Anyway, Moe's fingers are tired, so.......................

[wycbloods]

The same clubs who didn't approve a $10 increase to association subscriptions 2 years ago?

As i said nice in theory Moe, i quite like the idea of making it a more formal night, i just think the majority of clubs wouldn't support it.

[Moe]

The same clubs who didn't approve a $10 increase to association subscriptions 2 years ago?

As i said nice in theory Moe, i quite like the idea of making it a more formal night, i just think the majority of clubs wouldn't support it.

Maybe you are right Bloodsy me old mate, but hey, we could make it another Morphie Park/western Youth booze up-love fest like the innagural Dave Lee Cup night was.....

[Jabber]

I like your idea Moe, it is definately on the right track I think.

The only issue is that there are in actual fact a lot of clubs in the assoc, and some of them with only 1 team so it may not be as attractive to them as it would for clubs with 2, 3, 4, 5+ teams. Plus you'd need a bloody big room for (at least, if 1 table per club) 26 x tables of 8. Plympton's rooms can hold 180 seated uncomfortably.

Perhaps your idea should be more localised to Section One only, but other clubs can book tables as well if they wish, and on a Friday Night so you dont have to worry about public holidays or getting up for work the next day (for most people)? That way have your regular section 2 down trophy presentation, but have a real sit down dinner for section one and make it a great night.

I think that section one should be turned into a real premier division, which should include adding a prelim to the section one finals series that way making the section 1 finals 1 week longer and the section one gf a stand alone game. This would add to spectators, make it more of an incentive finishing in the top 2 giving them a double chance, and make it tougher to win a flag which it should be...

You dont have to make the season longer but instead make the first game after xmas a 1 dayer (making it easier to find numbers after xmas) and actually finishing the season 1 week earier across all grades.

[wycbloods]

The same clubs who didn't approve a $10 increase to association subscriptions 2 years ago?

As i said nice in theory Moe, i quite like the idea of making it a more formal night, i just think the majority of clubs wouldn't support it.

Maybe you are right Bloodsy me old mate, but hey, we could make it another Morphie Park/western Youth booze up-love fest like the innagural Dave Lee Cup night was.....

Why invite the rest of them then?

[wycbloods]

I like your idea Moe, it is definately on the right track I think.

The only issue is that there are in actual fact a lot of clubs in the assoc, and some of them with only 1 team so it may not be as attractive to them as it would for clubs with 2, 3, 4, 5+ teams. Plus you'd need a bloody big room for (at least, if 1 table per club) 26 x tables of 8. Plympton's rooms can hold 180 seated uncomfortably.

Perhaps your idea should be more localised to Section One only, but other clubs can book tables as well if they wish, and on a Friday Night so you dont have to worry about public holidays or getting up for work the next day (for most people)? That way have your regular section 2 down trophy presentation, but have a real sit down dinner for section one and make it a great night.

I think that section one should be turned into a real premier division, which should include adding a prelim to the section one finals series that way making the section 1 finals 1 week longer and the section one gf a stand alone game. This would add to spectators, make it more of an incentive finishing in the top 2 giving them a double chance, and make it tougher to win a flag which it should be...You dont have to make the season longer but instead make the first game after xmas a 1 dayer (making it easier to find numbers after xmas) and actually finishing the season 1 week earier across all grades.

Don't think it needs to be tougher haha. I do agree with the prelim final concept in our finals and i like the idea of the stand alone GF for section 1. Be interesting to see what the other clubs thought of such a proposal.

[Moe]

The same clubs who didn't approve a $10 increase to association subscriptions 2 years ago?

As i said nice in theory Moe, i quite like the idea of making it a more formal night, i just think the majority of clubs wouldn't support it.

Maybe you are right Bloodsy me old mate, but hey, we could make it another Morphie Park/western Youth booze up-love fest like the innagural Dave Lee Cup night was.....

Why invite the rest of them then?

Egzackery!!

[Amateur Footy]

I like your idea Moe, it is definately on the right track I think.

The only issue is that there are in actual fact a lot of clubs in the assoc, and some of them with only 1 team so it may not be as attractive to them as it would for clubs with 2, 3, 4, 5+ teams. Plus you'd need a bloody big room for (at least, if 1 table per club) 26 x tables of 8. Plympton's rooms can hold 180 seated uncomfortably.

Perhaps your idea should be more localised to Section One only, but other clubs can book tables as well if they wish, and on a Friday Night so you dont have to worry about public holidays or getting up for work the next day (for most people)? That way have your regular section 2 down trophy presentation, but have a real sit down dinner for section one and make it a great night.

I think that section one should be turned into a real premier division, which should include adding a prelim to the section one finals series that way making the section 1 finals 1 week longer and the section one gf a stand alone game. This would add to spectators, make it more of an incentive finishing in the top 2 giving them a double chance, and make it tougher to win a flag which it should be...

You dont have to make the season longer but instead make the first game after xmas a 1 dayer (making it easier to find numbers after xmas) and actually finishing the season 1 week earier across all grades.

Get a proposal written up for the AGM. I could see our club supporting this.

[CoverKing]

I like your idea Moe, it is definately on the right track I think.

The only issue is that there are in actual fact a lot of clubs in the assoc, and some of them with only 1 team so it may not be as attractive to them as it would for clubs with 2, 3, 4, 5+ teams. Plus you'd need a bloody big room for (at least, if 1 table per club) 26 x tables of 8. Plympton's rooms can hold 180 seated uncomfortably.

Perhaps your idea should be more localised to Section One only, but other clubs can book tables as well if they wish, and on a Friday Night so you dont have to worry about public holidays or getting up for work the next day (for most people)? That way have your regular section 2 down trophy presentation, but have a real sit down dinner for section one and make it a great night.

I think that section one should be turned into a real premier division, which should include adding a prelim to the section one finals series that way making the section 1 finals 1 week longer and the section one gf a stand alone game. This would add to spectators, make it more of an incentive finishing in the top 2 giving them a double chance, and make it tougher to win a flag which it should be...

You dont have to make the season longer but instead make the first game after xmas a 1 dayer (making it easier to find numbers after xmas) and actually finishing the season 1 week earier across all grades.

Get a proposal written up for the AGM. I could see our club supporting this.

Reckon our club would support it as well

[FIGJAM11]

How's that for you FIAJAA11

I'm impressed Moe ! Waisting your time at Morphy's, top job at the ASCA awaits you .....

For what it's worth i think the night should include the handing out of trophy's for the Grand finalists. The more you involve the better chance more people will attend, promoted properly. Ludacris having it GF week, can you imagine the WYC or Plympton boys attending it this year sipping on their squashes in the lead up to maybe the biggest game they will play in

[Booney]

How's that for you FIAJAA11

I'm impressed Moe ! Waisting your time at Morphy's, top job at the ASCA awaits you .....

For what it's worth i think the night should include the handing out of trophy's for the Grand finalists. The more you involve the better chance more people will attend, promoted properly. Ludacris having it GF week, can you imagine the WYC or Plympton boys attending it this year sipping on their squashes in the lead up to maybe the biggest game they will play in

Next year it will be WYC and someone else.

[CoverKing]

How's that for you FIAJAA11

I'm impressed Moe ! Waisting your time at Morphy's, top job at the ASCA awaits you .....

For what it's worth i think the night should include the handing out of trophy's for the Grand finalists. The more you involve the better chance more people will attend, promoted properly. Ludacris having it GF week, can you imagine the WYC or Plympton boys attending it this year sipping on their squashes in the lead up to maybe the biggest game they will play in

Next year it will be WYC and someone else.

No chance we would be sipping on squashes no matter what night it would be. Beers to be drunk and plenty of jagers to be ordered

[Tubby]

How's that for you FIAJAA11

I'm impressed Moe ! Waisting your time at Morphy's, top job at the ASCA awaits you .....

For what it's worth i think the night should include the handing out of trophy's for the Grand finalists. The more you involve the better chance more people will attend, promoted properly. Ludacris having it GF week, can you imagine the WYC or Plympton boys attending it this year sipping on their squashes in the lead up to maybe the biggest game they will play in

Rumour has it, that is what Moe is after, wants to be the Eddie McGuire of the ASCA !!!

[Moe]

How's that for you FIAJAA11

I'm impressed Moe ! Waisting your time at Morphy's, top job at the ASCA awaits you .....

For what it's worth i think the night should include the handing out of trophy's for the Grand finalists. The more you involve the better chance more people will attend, promoted properly. Ludacris having it GF week, can you imagine the WYC or Plympton boys attending it this year sipping on their squashes in the lead up to maybe the biggest game they will play in

Somehow I doubt that drinking on the Wednesday night before the grand final would ever be an issue for ANY team, especially the Plympton lads, who love a beer or 9 Friday nights at the MA.
Remember, it would not be a free piss up, but PAYG for drinks, with the meal being complimentary. It is up to the individual how much or what they drink, and altough we all take our cricket seriously, it is hardly international standards where we are all fine athletes who treat our bodies as temples.
Do you think that the WYC & PFCC boys all sipped squash's after their final training nights the Thursday before the GF this year? Not on your Nellie.....

[Moe]

How's that for you FIAJAA11

I'm impressed Moe ! Waisting your time at Morphy's, top job at the ASCA awaits you .....

For what it's worth i think the night should include the handing out of trophy's for the Grand finalists. The more you involve the better chance more people will attend, promoted properly. Ludacris having it GF week, can you imagine the WYC or Plympton boys attending it this year sipping on their squashes in the lead up to maybe the biggest game they will play in

Rumour has it, that is what Moe is after, wants to be the Eddie McGuire of the ASCA !!!

Pffft.... I can't even stay President of my own club