Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:38 pm

Idiotic by the club/selectors if this is the case. But we will see I guess at the tribunal. I agree we may not go through now, and also that it's a bit of karma on shadows behalf (as minotaur said). Is it true farrugia is not at the club next year? Moving away or something?
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:47 pm

CoverKing wrote:Idiotic by the club/selectors if this is the case. But we will see I guess at the tribunal. I agree we may not go through now, and also that it's a bit of karma on shadows behalf (as minotaur said). Is it true farrugia is not at the club next year? Moving away or something?


Heard he is off to whyalla
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:12 pm

Cheers mate. Bit sad that he is taking records in divvy 6 t the club from people like Brendan McCormack when he worked so hard to get his club into section 1 and performed unbelievably well
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:14 pm

D grade had the bye (keswick forfeited the remaining games) in round 10. As Blackman played rd 9, the rd 10 counted as a section 6 game. Therefore he played 5 games in both section 4 and 6. He didn't need a permit and nothing is untoward happened. That's the understanding I am under at present
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:22 am

Pretty sure it wasn't an oversight by us in the end Gowser. Obviously sheidow didn't look to closely, with Blackman playing ten games (5 section 4 and 5 in section 6- one of those is the rd 10 bye)...nothing to read in this, just a desperate effort to get into the GF after being the better side over the weekend but the rain helping the d grade out. Guess it's why we have minor round cricket
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Jabber » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:15 am

no_remorse28 wrote:
CoverKing wrote:Idiotic by the club/selectors if this is the case. But we will see I guess at the tribunal. I agree we may not go through now, and also that it's a bit of karma on shadows behalf (as minotaur said). Is it true farrugia is not at the club next year? Moving away or something?


Heard he is off to whyalla


Do they have D Grades in Whyalla so he can hunt a few trophies? Lets hope for his sake the grades go down to D.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Gowser » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:18 am

CoverKing wrote:D grade had the bye (keswick forfeited the remaining games) in round 10. As Blackman played rd 9, the rd 10 counted as a section 6 game. Therefore he played 5 games in both section 4 and 6. He didn't need a permit and nothing is untoward happened. That's the understanding I am under at present


How does that work? Surely that is not right.
Bye's don't count as games (they used to), the association made this point quite clear as it was a deliberate and recent change to prevent players naming any tom dick or harry (that were never gonna play) in the hope they can qualify for finals at a later date.

If i was a Sheidow member i would be kicking up a massive stink if that is the official ruling.

Anyways, good luck in the GF mate, should be a cracker game! WYC amongst the runs and ICC bowling well.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:31 am

no_remorse28 wrote:Heard that in the Div 6 final Sheidow have put in a challenge due to WYC playing an un qualified player without a permit !


Guess you heard wrong.

Sheidow Pk asked the question in regards to Pete Blackman's eligibility to play in the section 6 final and were told he was at 5 and 5 in sections 4 and 6 but my cricket was only showing 5 section 4 and 4 section 6 due to the forfeit side not showing up as a game played.

Fair enough for Sheidow to ask the question as we would have in the same situation but he didn't have a permit as he didn't need one but Craig Lawn and Phil Davis were aware of the situation before the weekend just gone.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:34 am

Gowser wrote:
bazza1 wrote:
Minotaur wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Not registered , Qualified, i think they might be talking about Blackman, who should of needed a permit because he played 5 games in section 4 and only 4 games in section 6. Think the laws (heard second hand) was that its 3 games to qualify but half or more need to be in the lower grade, hence he needed to play more then half in section 6 other wise he would need a permit, which is the case here.


Does that rule apply when a higher grade is also playing finals? Thought if higher grades were playing the qualifications don't matter.

Only when 2 consecutive teams are playing.


Major oversight by WYC! Sheidow will go through. Highly doubt the player would have been given a permit by the ASCA. Keswick went through this process and were denied with a stronger case for a permit being given.

Looking at his stats it is hard to see why he was even dropped back to section 6 after good results/form.


Try again Gowser.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Hips Don't Lie » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:07 am

Jugs wrote:
caleb777 wrote:
Hips Don't Lie wrote:Saw one he'll of a straight pull shot in the WYCC v Coro game! Almost smashed the houses at the Richmond rd end...


Saw the same bloke struggle to hit anything outside off stump...


The guy is a dirty slogger. But a good one at that

This was written as a joke after about my 17th vodka squash whilst celebrating a spot in the gf with the wyc lads. Mainly as a joke with those boys but it's funny to see a few opponents bite at this. All I can say is have fun on the sidelines this weekend
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby no_remorse28 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:31 am

wycbloods wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Heard that in the Div 6 final Sheidow have put in a challenge due to WYC playing an un qualified player without a permit !


Guess you heard wrong.

Sheidow Pk asked the question in regards to Pete Blackman's eligibility to play in the section 6 final and were told he was at 5 and 5 in sections 4 and 6 but my cricket was only showing 5 section 4 and 4 section 6 due to the forfeit side not showing up as a game played.

Fair enough for Sheidow to ask the question as we would have in the same situation but he didn't have a permit as he didn't need one but Craig Lawn and Phil Davis were aware of the situation before the weekend just gone.


Na fair enough, I got it from one of the players on the day, said the captain had gone to the president of Sheidow and they were gonna appeal, as of until 11 pm last night he was still saying thats what they are doing, but it seems u have clarified it, I stated in my first post it seemed they were desperate to get in and its not circumstances I am a fan of. But i agree this is what Minor rounds are for. and the Ladder
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:46 pm

Gowser wrote:
CoverKing wrote:D grade had the bye (keswick forfeited the remaining games) in round 10. As Blackman played rd 9, the rd 10 counted as a section 6 game. Therefore he played 5 games in both section 4 and 6. He didn't need a permit and nothing is untoward happened. That's the understanding I am under at present


How does that work? Surely that is not right.
Bye's don't count as games (they used to), the association made this point quite clear as it was a deliberate and recent change to prevent players naming any tom dick or harry (that were never gonna play) in the hope they can qualify for finals at a later date.

If i was a Sheidow member i would be kicking up a massive stink if that is the official ruling.

Anyways, good luck in the GF mate, should be a cracker game! WYC amongst the runs and ICC bowling well.


Well i was close to the right reason in why Blackman could play. I was bored at work last night and using mycricket through the phone. must of missed the forfeit game which wasnt included. With the bye rule, i understand where you are coming from, but hows it different to a forfeit? He wasnt picked in the C grade that week, and couldnt play D grade cause of a bye (which during the year at an earlier stage, was counted as a game for a club, until i think it was Keswick? that dropped a side), so he was available for the game? i understand some clubs would try and bend the rules.

And cheers for the good luck. I reckon its going to be a good game. In round 10 we failed to chase down 150 up there, only made 110, but that is with a combination of Luders, McCormack, and Hopkins making 9 between them. I doubt all three will fail again, and even more so Hopkins who failed in the Semi after getting a good nut from blesing.

Be interesting to watch the section 3 GF with ramblers hosting Coro at the dene. Rivalries in finals, cant get much better
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Gowser » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:34 pm

wycbloods wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Heard that in the Div 6 final Sheidow have put in a challenge due to WYC playing an un qualified player without a permit !


Guess you heard wrong.

Sheidow Pk asked the question in regards to Pete Blackman's eligibility to play in the section 6 final and were told he was at 5 and 5 in sections 4 and 6 but my cricket was only showing 5 section 4 and 4 section 6 due to the forfeit side not showing up as a game played.

Fair enough for Sheidow to ask the question as we would have in the same situation but he didn't have a permit as he didn't need one but Craig Lawn and Phil Davis were aware of the situation before the weekend just gone.


What round was the forfeit?
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:53 pm

Gowser, my understanding of the situation.
Round 10 was a bye. We got to name players. That counts as a game.
This under normal circumstances, wouldn't be accepted. As the bye was also a forfeit for part of the year (other teams got to name sides and have that count as a game), that game does count as a game played for those picked in our team sheet.

Apparently, we confirmed this last Tuesday with Craig and Phil, they stated he had 5 x section 4 games, 5 x section 6 games. Therefore didn't need a permit.

D grade into the grand final. Carn the rangers
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:16 pm

Gowser wrote:
wycbloods wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Heard that in the Div 6 final Sheidow have put in a challenge due to WYC playing an un qualified player without a permit !


Guess you heard wrong.

Sheidow Pk asked the question in regards to Pete Blackman's eligibility to play in the section 6 final and were told he was at 5 and 5 in sections 4 and 6 but my cricket was only showing 5 section 4 and 4 section 6 due to the forfeit side not showing up as a game played.

Fair enough for Sheidow to ask the question as we would have in the same situation but he didn't have a permit as he didn't need one but Craig Lawn and Phil Davis were aware of the situation before the weekend just gone.


What round was the forfeit?


Round 10 but i should have used the word bye not forfeit.

Nothing to hide from our point of view it was all run past Craig and Phil.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby bazza1 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:19 pm

Umpires for the Grand Finals

Sect 1 Dibben, Fromene

Sect 2 Hewett, Gow

Sect 3 Thatcher, Wright

Sect 4 Zadow, Williamson

Sect 5 Williams, Mitsigeorgis

Sect 6 Harris, Hodge

Sect 7 Spencer, Stallard
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Cobra » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:30 am

Has the infamous umpire Andrew (dead ball -no ball) got a gig? That fellas funny, never seen someone so worked up. Ps A-grade spots still available to play footy at lonsdale in round 1. Call me..
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:54 am

How about everyone puts their tips in for all the GF's this weekend.

Mine are as follows

ICC V WYC. I am tipping WYC obviously but i suspect Luders and McCormack to carry over their form from the SF to next week.

Nth Haven V Belair You just can't go past the undefeated seagulls who have smashed all in their path this season. However, Belair would be the most capable side to knock them off i just can't see Nth Haven letting this one slip.

Coro V Coro Ramblers Should be a good game between the two coro sides. With no knowledge of either side i will pick the Ramblers.

ICC V Glenelg ANA Glenelg have a very experienced side with a few section 1 premiership players amongst their side and i think this will help them get across the line.

ICC V Woodcroft I will pick Woodcroft on the basis i haven't tipped the sharks in the other 2 games.

South Pk V WYC An "A" grade side Vs our D's should see South Pk get up but i think our lads after being very lucky to get through the semi will have a good match and get up in a low scoring affair.

Adel Cavs Vs Belair. No idea about either side but i think the Cavs will get up for an unknown reason.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Brodlach » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:59 am

As a former South Park player (many years ago), I wish them good luck. It would be many years since they played in a Grand Final...I think I would have played in the last GF side.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Moe » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:35 am

wycbloods wrote:How about everyone puts their tips in for all the GF's this weekend.

Mine are as follows

ICC V WYC. I am tipping WYC obviously but i suspect Luders and McCormack to carry over their form from the SF to next week.

Nth Haven V Belair You just can't go past the undefeated seagulls who have smashed all in their path this season. However, Belair would be the most capable side to knock them off i just can't see Nth Haven letting this one slip.

Coro V Coro Ramblers Should be a good game between the two coro sides. With no knowledge of either side i will pick the Ramblers.

ICC V Glenelg ANA Glenelg have a very experienced side with a few section 1 premiership players amongst their side and i think this will help them get across the line.

ICC V Woodcroft I will pick Woodcroft on the basis i haven't tipped the sharks in the other 2 games.

South Pk V WYC An "A" grade side Vs our D's should see South Pk get up but i think our lads after being very lucky to get through the semi will have a good match and get up in a low scoring affair.

Adel Cavs Vs Belair. No idea about either side but i think the Cavs will get up for an unknown reason.
Firstly to ICC, Congrats on getting 3 teams into GF's, a big effort.
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Section 2 North Haven, emulating Morphy Parks effort of relegation then undefeated premiers, altho Plympton may think it means nothing ;)
Section 3 Tie then all in riot
Section 4 ICC cos i never pick anything with Glenelg in the name ;)
Section 5 Woodcroft, cos they make a nice Shiraz
Section 6 WYC cos South Park sounds like South Road & you know what i think of them ;)
Section 7 Belair, cos Adelaide Cavs are a bunch of knobs.

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