Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby mickey » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:32 pm

kookas wrote:
Trader wrote:Despite no rain overnight, a few games starting to get called off already....very disappointing.


who do you play for Trader?
our game got started under light showers and the got heavier. We had to call it off as when one of the bowlers was bowling, he was starting to rip up one end as he was wearing rubber soles. We could only get 4 overs bowled. Such a frustrating year so far.


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby beeroclock » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:16 pm

If games started under light rain then they should not have started at all. Rules state that play does not start until the rain has completely stopped. Umpy payments are $105 for a start compared to a $30 call off if no play is possible due to possible wicket damage and bowler safety. Games started with light rain for sure. Laws are laws.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Shark_Hunter » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:53 pm

beeroclock wrote:If games started under light rain then they should not have started at all. Rules state that play does not start until the rain has completely stopped. Umpy payments are $105 for a start compared to a $30 call off if no play is possible due to possible wicket damage and bowler safety. Games started with light rain for sure. Laws are laws.


I think you'll find that rule is no longer in there. I may be wrong in relation to ATCA but it was certainly changed in international, domestic and I think even grade cricket. They realised it is ridiculous to rule out playing when it might only be a very light shower....
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby TheAussieBogan » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:32 pm

We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby interested observer » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:48 pm

TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.



Bet your curator will be over the moon..
One thing umpires rarely factor and should, is the long term damage that can be caused to squares by them getting a game going..
Play started at Ingle Farm yesterday and the damage caused after just 14 overs was major.
A lot of work required to fix, when really it should not have been played on at all...
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby on_a_length » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:37 pm

cripple wrote:Have some mates that play at flinders. apparently curator didn't even bother preparing pitches for whatever reason. very disappointing if indeed true.


Maybe the curator was unable to get on the wicket to prepare it?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby mickey » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:04 pm

interested observer wrote:
TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.



Bet your curator will be over the moon..
One thing umpires rarely factor and should, is the long term damage that can be caused to squares by them getting a game going..
Play started at Ingle Farm yesterday and the damage caused after just 14 overs was major.
A lot of work required to fix, when really it should not have been played on at all...


One of the most sensible posts on here for a long time..

Too many people who have never been a curator all 'know' how to make a wicket... just like golfers know how to look after a course...

But really the know SFA about it
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:20 pm

interested observer wrote:
TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.



Bet your curator will be over the moon..
One thing umpires rarely factor and should, is the long term damage that can be caused to squares by them getting a game going..
Play started at Ingle Farm yesterday and the damage caused after just 14 overs was major.
A lot of work required to fix, when really it should not have been played on at all...

Pitch was repaired and U17's got away on time at Rowe Park on Sunday. Walkerville all out 51. Maybe the repairs didn't work so well. :oops:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:21 pm

TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.

Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby beeroclock » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:57 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.

Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.

Hell where did that come from?
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:51 am

Not sure where it came from but I would agree, Webb Oval is due for a new deck.

kookas wrote:
Trader wrote:Despite no rain overnight, a few games starting to get called off already....very disappointing.


who do you play for Trader?


I play E-grade for one of them Eastern Suburbs clubs.

Shark_Hunter wrote:
beeroclock wrote:If games started under light rain then they should not have started at all. Rules state that play does not start until the rain has completely stopped. Umpy payments are $105 for a start compared to a $30 call off if no play is possible due to possible wicket damage and bowler safety. Games started with light rain for sure. Laws are laws.


I think you'll find that rule is no longer in there. I may be wrong in relation to ATCA but it was certainly changed in international, domestic and I think even grade cricket. They realised it is ridiculous to rule out playing when it might only be a very light shower....


Interesting Shark, I thought it was as BeerO'Clock suggested, IE: You can play through light rain, but you can't start during it (either the start of the game or after a drinks break/session break). If it is raining (no matter how light) you had to wait before starting.

Our game got underway when it was dry, drizzle came in about the 2nd or 3rd over and stayed till about the 10th, then was fine after that.
Pitch got warn in the footmarks but the middle of the wicket was fine.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:39 pm

beeroclock wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.

Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.

Hell where did that come from?

The AussieBogan plays at Glenunga, so I assumed he was referring to Webb Oval. I had a look at the centre square at Webb Oval a few weeks back and it is pretty ordinary. Beeroclock, that's where you made a hundred a couple of years back
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Muffler » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:26 pm

We (Marion) ventured down to hectorville on Saturday.
Got there to a pitch that had not been prepared. It looked like the groundsman had rolled the pitch and watered it on the friday. The centre wicket area was all hacked up and wet yet the rest of the ground was good. Obviously even if the pitch was good we wouldn't have got started as it was pissing down when we were leaving but it could have saved us the drive out there.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Merki the God » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:30 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
beeroclock wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.

Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.

Hell where did that come from?

The AussieBogan plays at Glenunga, so I assumed he was referring to Webb Oval. I had a look at the centre square at Webb Oval a few weeks back and it is pretty ordinary. Beeroclock, that's where you made a hundred a couple of years back


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Shark_Hunter » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:24 pm

Trader wrote:Not sure where it came from but I would agree, Webb Oval is due for a new deck.

kookas wrote:
Trader wrote:Despite no rain overnight, a few games starting to get called off already....very disappointing.


who do you play for Trader?


I play E-grade for one of them Eastern Suburbs clubs.

Shark_Hunter wrote:
beeroclock wrote:If games started under light rain then they should not have started at all. Rules state that play does not start until the rain has completely stopped. Umpy payments are $105 for a start compared to a $30 call off if no play is possible due to possible wicket damage and bowler safety. Games started with light rain for sure. Laws are laws.


I think you'll find that rule is no longer in there. I may be wrong in relation to ATCA but it was certainly changed in international, domestic and I think even grade cricket. They realised it is ridiculous to rule out playing when it might only be a very light shower....


Interesting Shark, I thought it was as BeerO'Clock suggested, IE: You can play through light rain, but you can't start during it (either the start of the game or after a drinks break/session break). If it is raining (no matter how light) you had to wait before starting.

Our game got underway when it was dry, drizzle came in about the 2nd or 3rd over and stayed till about the 10th, then was fine after that.
Pitch got warn in the footmarks but the middle of the wicket was fine.


Nowhere ion the wording does it say that the umpires cannot restart play while it is raining. It is up to the umpires to decide whether the weather and light is "suitable" for play to recommence. Granted that most of the time if it is raining the decision will be not to start play, however both captain may object to the umpires ruling and choose to start play.
The following was taken from the Lords wesbite:

3-B Fitness of conditions for play
If there has been an interruption of play because of rain, can play be resumed while it is still
raining? Could a match be started in rain?


The major consideration for the umpires will be the condition of the surface, especially for
the bowler’s run ups and the batsmen’s footholds, but also in the outfield. Whatever their
judgment of that, it is unlikely that they would regard playing in the rain as suitable conditions.
If, however, both umpires consider that the conditions of the ground, of the weather or of the
light are neither unreasonable nor dangerous, there is no reason in Law to forbid play, even in
light rain, if both captains agree that they wish play to resume or to commence.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby beeroclock » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:14 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
beeroclock wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
TheAussieBogan wrote:We started with light showers which got slightly heavier for an hour, but eventually they stopped. We played through without stoppages or delay.

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.

Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.

Hell where did that come from?

The AussieBogan plays at Glenunga, so I assumed he was referring to Webb Oval. I had a look at the centre square at Webb Oval a few weeks back and it is pretty ordinary. Beeroclock, that's where you made a hundred a couple of years back

Well, yes you are correct. I have no probs with the wicket other than that it tasted terrible. In fact i wiped my lips very quickly afterwards. Very challenging wicket but suited two old farts that day.(I.O).
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby interested observer » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:55 pm

The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.[/quote]
Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.[/quote]
Hell where did that come from?[/quote]
The AussieBogan plays at Glenunga, so I assumed he was referring to Webb Oval. I had a look at the centre square at Webb Oval a few weeks back and it is pretty ordinary. Beeroclock, that's where you made a hundred a couple of years back[/quote]
Well, yes you are correct. I have no probs with the wicket other than that it tasted terrible. In fact i wiped my lips very quickly afterwards. Very challenging wicket but suited two old farts that day.(I.O).[/quote]

Yes a very tough but enjoyable afternoon it was on an ordinary strip.
The left armer, Zilante i think it was, pushed them through ok..
Got a bit hard to pick him up later in the day with those trees behind him.. Not Pleasant :shock:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby beeroclock » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:22 pm

interested observer wrote:The pitch was pretty worn though and slippery for both parties.

Are you referring to Webb Oval? That pitch needs to be dug up and replaced.[/quote]
Hell where did that come from?[/quote]
The AussieBogan plays at Glenunga, so I assumed he was referring to Webb Oval. I had a look at the centre square at Webb Oval a few weeks back and it is pretty ordinary. Beeroclock, that's where you made a hundred a couple of years back[/quote]
Well, yes you are correct. I have no probs with the wicket other than that it tasted terrible. In fact i wiped my lips very quickly afterwards. Very challenging wicket but suited two old farts that day.(I.O).[/quote]

Yes a very tough but enjoyable afternoon it was on an ordinary strip.
The left armer, Zilante i think it was, pushed them through ok..
Got a bit hard to pick him up later in the day with those trees behind him.. Not Pleasant :shock:[/quote]
Rewarding.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby puppet arms » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 am

Both ovals at Glenunga (Webb Oval & Margaret Bond) usually play a lot better than they look. Usually a bit low and slow but there are runs to be made if you apply yourself. A lot of guys psych themseves out when they look at the pitch and it looks like a minefield
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Bag & Sledge » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:58 pm

Is the big hitting Carlo Manno still playing cricket for Para Hills?
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