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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Deep Heat » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:13 pm

20/20 semi cove 6/147 defeated icc 113
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby sherminator » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:09 pm

Jabber wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Ramblers 6/29 chasing 113.

I honestly think the pitch at Hawthorndene is not suitable to play on. It just does too much. Coro's seems to have got better but it doesn't appear that the Ramblers pitch is doing that.

Thoughts?


Plympton's is overdue for re-laying and in hindsight probably tried to squeeze 1 season too many out of it, but that stuff that is layed out at rambers belongs in the produce section of the supermarket under a few rockmelons!

I said that when i played on it just after it first got laid, the fibres are too long.

Speaking with a couple of guys at the t20 last sunday i don't think some of the ramblers players enjoy it, but really there is not much you can do about it until its ready to be ripped up and relayed. The argument will be its the same for both teams.


Is that the new 'stuck-down' surface that many councils are putting down on public ovals? I only ask as the footy club that shares the oval with us in the GSCA apparently have suggested we put one down as they reckon it is safer during footy season.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Gowser » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:42 pm

Newsbreaker wrote:from what I know of those types of matting, its ment to play more like a turf pitch.


According to who? I am of the opinion that pitch is not safe and no more like it should be allowed in A&SCA.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Bulldogs007 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:45 pm

Gowser wrote:
Newsbreaker wrote:from what I know of those types of matting, its ment to play more like a turf pitch.


According to who? I am of the opinion that pitch is not safe and no more like it should be allowed in A&SCA.


Why would we want a pitch to try and be like a turf pitch, We play in a HARD WICKET COMP, if we wanted to play on turf im sure we would be playing Adelaide turf comp or District.

BTW this rubbish matting is nothing like turf. Its just CRAAAAAP
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Jabber » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:19 pm

Gowser wrote:
Newsbreaker wrote:from what I know of those types of matting, its ment to play more like a turf pitch.


According to who? I am of the opinion that pitch is not safe and no more like it should be allowed in A&SCA.


I dont know if its not safe... its just a bit junk
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Newsbreaker » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:57 pm

Bulldogs007 wrote:
Gowser wrote:
Newsbreaker wrote:from what I know of those types of matting, its ment to play more like a turf pitch.


According to who? I am of the opinion that pitch is not safe and no more like it should be allowed in A&SCA.


Why would we want a pitch to try and be like a turf pitch, We play in a HARD WICKET COMP, if we wanted to play on turf im sure we would be playing Adelaide turf comp or District.

BTW this rubbish matting is nothing like turf. Its just CRAAAAAP


The only reason the ball bounces different is because there is a think layer of rubber under the actually matting. This is so the ball bounces, maybe if the ball bounce is too irregular; the council has laid a too think layer of rubber underneath.
It doesn't actually play that much different from normal matting, it just bounces up more off a good length, and if bowled short it sits up more, like a tennis ball bounce. It really isn’t that hard to adjust.

And too answer safer during the football season, I wouldn't necessarily say that it’s safer, because all they do is soften it up it a special substance and then put a layer of rubber pellets on top.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:21 pm

I think you'll find the ICC & Ramblers scoreline had not much to do with the pitch. The grass is super long at Hawthorndene despite a request of the council for more regular cuts. We bowled well to ICC and with a quick outfield they could have had another 30 runs. The Ramblers batting was horrible and Verrall bowled well. Considering his wickets came from full-pitched deliveries the pitch didn't play a part. Batting hasn't exactly been our strength in a long, long time....

The new pitch plays better than the old one and as a batsman I have no problem with it. The balls that have a strange bounce almost never take a wicket.

I think it's more of a case of "batsmen" looking for excuses.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:28 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:I think you'll find the ICC & Ramblers scoreline had not much to do with the pitch. The grass is super long at Hawthorndene despite a request of the council for more regular cuts. We bowled well to ICC and with a quick outfield they could have had another 30 runs. The Ramblers batting was horrible and Verrall bowled well. Considering his wickets came from full-pitched deliveries the pitch didn't play a part. Batting hasn't exactly been our strength in a long, long time....

The new pitch plays better than the old one and as a batsman I have no problem with it. The balls that have a strange bounce almost never take a wicket.

I think it's more of a case of "batsmen" looking for excuses.



you had me until that. :D :D
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:50 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:I think you'll find the ICC & Ramblers scoreline had not much to do with the pitch. The grass is super long at Hawthorndene despite a request of the council for more regular cuts. We bowled well to ICC and with a quick outfield they could have had another 30 runs. The Ramblers batting was horrible and Verrall bowled well. Considering his wickets came from full-pitched deliveries the pitch didn't play a part. Batting hasn't exactly been our strength in a long, long time....

The new pitch plays better than the old one and as a batsman I have no problem with it. The balls that have a strange bounce almost never take a wicket.

I think it's more of a case of "batsmen" looking for excuses.


worst pitch ive ever seen!!!! DISGRACE!!!! and ive played in port augusta... haha!!!
Regardles of result it iss a poor pitch, the old matting you had there was really good not sure why you changed it...
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:28 pm

Deep Heat wrote:20/20 semi cove 6/147 defeated icc 113


So Cove through to their first ASCA GF, even if it is the mickey mouse cup ;) .

Cove Vs Ramblers has the game been set up as yet? Date time location?
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Farva » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:56 pm

wycbloods wrote:
Deep Heat wrote:20/20 semi cove 6/147 defeated icc 113


So Cove through to their first ASCA GF, even if it is the mickey mouse cup ;) .

Cove Vs Ramblers has the game been set up as yet? Date time location?



game is at cove, not sure when
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Mike Lowery » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:52 pm

apparently 27th of feb at cove
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:16 pm

Mike Lowery wrote:apparently 27th of feb at cove


That is when Cove have said it will be. Perhaps they forgot both clubs have to agree. We will discuss this week. Can't see any problem with it at this stage.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Amateur Footy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:21 pm

wycbloods wrote:
Amateur Footy wrote:I think you'll find the ICC & Ramblers scoreline had not much to do with the pitch. The grass is super long at Hawthorndene despite a request of the council for more regular cuts. We bowled well to ICC and with a quick outfield they could have had another 30 runs. The Ramblers batting was horrible and Verrall bowled well. Considering his wickets came from full-pitched deliveries the pitch didn't play a part. Batting hasn't exactly been our strength in a long, long time....

The new pitch plays better than the old one and as a batsman I have no problem with it. The balls that have a strange bounce almost never take a wicket.

I think it's more of a case of "batsmen" looking for excuses.



you had me until that. :D :D


Fair call
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:20 am

Amateur Footy wrote:
Mike Lowery wrote:apparently 27th of feb at cove


That is when Cove have said it will be. Perhaps they forgot both clubs have to agree. We will discuss this week. Can't see any problem with it at this stage.


Cove did the same with us, one day only to play. No other day they were available
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Deep Heat » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:40 am

HAHAHAHAHAH OH that must be why they beat you you didn have time to prepare hahahahaahahah and they cheated
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:28 am

Deep Heat wrote:HAHAHAHAHAH OH that must be why they beat you you didn have time to prepare hahahahaahahah and they cheated


Don't think CK alluded to that at all. He simply stated the facts of the situation which was that you had played a game the weekend after the meeting which decided we play the winner of that game and once you had won you informed us there was only one day you were available to play.

It didn't have an impact on the outcome of the game but it seems to a common occurence that Cove put forward only one day that is suitable to them without taking into account the oppositions needs.

I think this would be best sorted out by having set dates at the start of the year and all clubs must submit dates they want avoided prior to the draw being done otherwise bad luck.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Jabber » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:33 am

wycbloods wrote:
Deep Heat wrote:HAHAHAHAHAH OH that must be why they beat you you didn have time to prepare hahahahaahahah and they cheated


Don't think CK alluded to that at all. He simply stated the facts of the situation which was that you had played a game the weekend after the meeting which decided we play the winner of that game and once you had won you informed us there was only one day you were available to play.

It didn't have an impact on the outcome of the game but it seems to a common occurence that Cove put forward only one day that is suitable to them without taking into account the oppositions needs.

I think this would be best sorted out by having set dates at the start of the year and all clubs must submit dates they want avoided prior to the draw being done otherwise bad luck.


Correct, set dates at the start of the year, just leave the teams open, put it in the handbook and if you can't get a team up for that day bad luck, clubs don't schedule any fundraisers, weddings, birthdays, funerals, barmitzfas, building dedications, etc on those days.

If anything it gives clubs another oppertunity to hold a social event like a sponsors day etc on the sunday of the T20, and to know the date of the first one is fixed in place then you can start planning early.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Farva » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:46 am

wycbloods wrote:
Deep Heat wrote:HAHAHAHAHAH OH that must be why they beat you you didn have time to prepare hahahahaahahah and they cheated


Don't think CK alluded to that at all. He simply stated the facts of the situation which was that you had played a game the weekend after the meeting which decided we play the winner of that game and once you had won you informed us there was only one day you were available to play.

It didn't have an impact on the outcome of the game but it seems to a common occurence that Cove put forward only one day that is suitable to them without taking into account the oppositions needs.

I think this would be best sorted out by having set dates at the start of the year and all clubs must submit dates they want avoided prior to the draw being done otherwise bad luck.



Pretty sure that cove had to play there first t20 game on the sunday of the october long weekend. The other point is that cove were meant to play away against wyc and icc and the games had to be switched as there ovals were not available.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:47 pm

Incorrect. Cove said they were only available one to play and than I offered them the chance to play at their ground due to the point that our ground is hardly suitable for a t20. Cove had one day and one day only to play.

Farva wrote:
wycbloods wrote:
Deep Heat wrote:HAHAHAHAHAH OH that must be why they beat you you didn have time to prepare hahahahaahahah and they cheated


Don't think CK alluded to that at all. He simply stated the facts of the situation which was that you had played a game the weekend after the meeting which decided we play the winner of that game and once you had won you informed us there was only one day you were available to play.

It didn't have an impact on the outcome of the game but it seems to a common occurence that Cove put forward only one day that is suitable to them without taking into account the oppositions needs.

I think this would be best sorted out by having set dates at the start of the year and all clubs must submit dates they want avoided prior to the draw being done otherwise bad luck.



Pretty sure that cove had to play there first t20 game on the sunday of the october long weekend. The other point is that cove were meant to play away against wyc and icc and the games had to be switched as there ovals were not available.
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