SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2011/2012

[dark & stormy]

come join the big boys and see if you can take wickets then.......I THINK NOT.

i disagree because the line and length i bowl is better suited to div 1 because div 2 batsmen arent good enough to get the edge..the amount of plays and misses i have had this year is staggering from good length balls amd not to mention i have the best slower ball in the association

why not play Div 1 ppl may ask? i dont know about everybody else but the most enjoyable part of playing cricket for myself is getting to play with your mates on a Saturday and i have many friends at Enfield..after all we arent playing for sheep stations

Cuz i did start the year at 6 but besides the two innings of 16 n.o and 13 n.o the rest of my scores in the other 6 innings have been between 0-7 so there is a reason im batting down at 9 and not to mention the fact that everyone ahead of me in the batting order has scored more runs than me this year.[/quote]
obb, I know how you bowl and when selected how committed you are also, I am talking about BALNEAVES AND TINDALE bowling in div 1 no one else......IMO I really doubt they would have the same success in div 1 that they are enjoying now.
crackers is 40 ...whoopee.....so am I and still in div 1 and still openining bowler...big deal about being 40, I laugh and joke on here about being too old and fat (well not really joking because I am fat and old) but I still play in div 1 . not the best by far but certainly not the worst. so age has no bearing in this case. the guys I have had the privelage to play assoc with are the ones who really want to be there , there are guys in NEK who should be playing but dont, so I am not ahhhhhh doesnt matter you know what I mean , and if you dont mehhh what ever......we will see when the assoc side is being picked and who stands up......

[Phantom Gossiper]

I also don't believe the captains in the A and B Grade are true leaders(IMO) and I think successful captains really need to lead from the front in every way with motivation especially. I don't think Mark nor Daniel are these type.

I think the captains this year are better than the captains the club picked last year. Daniel Hancock has a proven track record of being a successfull captain with a good cricket brain, last years B grade captain.. well.. i'm still shocked by that decision..

Same with Mark Woolcock, good cricket brain, played for a while and at some good levels, may not be performing as well as he would like, but best man for the job IMO.

[Phantom Gossiper]

I also don't believe the captains in the A and B Grade are true leaders(IMO) and I think successful captains really need to lead from the front in every way with motivation especially. I don't think Mark nor Daniel are these type.

Also what the hell do you mean by motivation especially? You want some pump up ra ra speech pre-game? This isn't aussie rules!

[Oxygen Thief]

come join the big boys and see if you can take wickets then.......I THINK NOT.

i disagree because the line and length i bowl is better suited to div 1 because div 2 batsmen arent good enough to get the edge..the amount of plays and misses i have had this year is staggering from good length balls amd not to mention i have the best slower ball in the association

why not play Div 1 ppl may ask? i dont know about everybody else but the most enjoyable part of playing cricket for myself is getting to play with your mates on a Saturday and i have many friends at Enfield..after all we arent playing for sheep stations

Cuz i did start the year at 6 but besides the two innings of 16 n.o and 13 n.o the rest of my scores in the other 6 innings have been between 0-7 so there is a reason im batting down at 9 and not to mention the fact that everyone ahead of me in the batting order has scored more runs than me this year.[/quote]

Gully if you find that you are constantly beating the bat maybe you should bowl at the stumps? Seems logical to me but hey i'm not a bowler...
Your quite correct gully i just found it odd that you were batting so low, and at the end of the day its just my opinion but technically you are probably the second best bat i saw in your side on sat, weather your in form or not!
Must admit your A's all seem like good blokes and in our comp. it has to be about enjoying yourself and having fun with your mates, i know that this is what we try to do.

[Noel Craig]

GH, His not there yet. Not there yet as in he's no shoe in for a strong div 1 side. He started there(PV) through injury remember and that is straight from the horses mouth. He has played well whilst being there but I think those who thought he wouldn't cope may well have gotten there insight from the U21 rep games he played lastyear where he got absolutely hammered against decent batters and the games in div 3 where he was also found out. I have nothing but encouragement for the young bloke but for you to come on here and no doubt try smear Enfields cricketers and there insight in to who's decent and who's not or whatever is out and out pathetic. It's like kicking a bloke while his down.

You're posting like he's a superstar and Enfield and the rest of the comp were blind to see this. He's no superstar. Myself and alot of others in he association and club will tell you that aswell. Good luck to him though. His young and adventurous. Most clubs in our association won't ever see a young bloke that has the confidence he has.

And before you reply questioning my response, how about you answer this. Would he have made any of Vista's premiership sides from the past few seasons? No he wouldn't have. I don't think he would have made Vista's B Grade premiership side lastyear.

I like J-mac, his a good kid from a good family but despite the talk he gives, deep down he knows where he's at. Regardless of that though, he gives his all and that's all any decent sports side will ask for. Good luck to him.

Whether he is "there yet" or not, he appears to be ticking all the right boxes at the moment and putting the results on the board
Good luck and well done to him, takes a lot of courage to be so young and take the plunge to move from a club where his dad has played for so long, and had such a good season last year to go to a div 1 club and try to better himself and play at a better standard.

As I said. I like the lad and good luck to him but it appears GH thinks Enfield couldnt see the superstar factor in him

[Noel Craig]

Some interesting reading here last couple of pages.
Thing i think you need to remember about Jarrad is he's only 18. He always listens to his peers
and always looking to better himself. he plays with a straight bat ( which is something about 3/4 of batsman in divvy 1
and 2 struggle with ) and highly values his wicket. He's a future carnival player, no doubt about it.

As for Dutchy, he'd be in my carnival side based purely on the size of his heart and how much it means to him.
Just needs to make sure he's got a few salt tablets handy to try and prevent cramping at the worse possible time

Watched Enfield's A's bat on saturday. Could not believe that Gully came in at 9 or 10?! I have played 2 or 3 carnivals with him
and he's a handy batsman and IMO should be up around 4 or 5. Just because he's the strike bowler doesnt mean he has to bat at 9.
Probably only 1 other batsman that i saw that day that was better. Hit the ball well, but got set up nicely

Totally agreed!! Has also hit a hundgy back in the day.

[Noel Craig]

I also don't believe the captains in the A and B Grade are true leaders(IMO) and I think successful captains really need to lead from the front in every way with motivation especially. I don't think Mark nor Daniel are these type.

I think the captains this year are better than the captains the club picked last year. Daniel Hancock has a proven track record of being a successfull captain with a good cricket brain, last years B grade captain.. well.. i'm still shocked by that decision..

Same with Mark Woolcock, good cricket brain, played for a while and at some good levels, may not be performing as well as he would like, but best man for the job IMO.

Lairdy only got the captaincy lastyear because no-one else had the heart to want it and I dare say that was because people assumed the B Grade would lack talent again. He was pretty much thrown in the deep end. Can you please elaborate on Daniels 'proven track record' as a captain. He'd be blushing reading this. Daniel captained the B grade a few seasons back and they barely had a side all year and forfeited a number of times I believe. Lairdy took the B Grade to the finals for the first time in quite a long time and also finished second in the sides batting so I'm shocked your on a public forum questioning his leadership and ability. He can be a Tosser but most young bogans can be these days. You won't find anyone at Enfield that questions his leadership either. How was your track record captaining at Enfield btw? Did you ever captain a side to finals when you were here?? And I believe you had a much better side in the same division when you captained the B Grade?? Wouldn't catch you dead questioning your own leadership though hey??

Mark and Simon Arnold were the only 2 that went for the A Grade captaincy. We obviously seen no reason to disregard Marks appointment out of them 2. Motivation is quite clearly worth alot more then you may think in cricket and any sport. IMO!!

[newbloke]

Smasha you seem to be a good judge of grade 1,what do you think of Rose park and are they any good. I fail to see how a team that struggles are sitting where they are at the moment, is it a lucky run?

[Phantom Gossiper]

Lairdy only got the captaincy lastyear because no-one else had the heart to want it and I dare say that was because people assumed the B Grade would lack talent again. He was pretty much thrown in the deep end. Can you please elaborate on Daniels 'proven track record' as a captain. He'd be blushing reading this. Daniel captained the B grade a few seasons back and they barely had a side all year and forfeited a number of times I believe. Lairdy took the B Grade to the finals for the first time in quite a long time and also finished second in the sides batting so I'm shocked your on a public forum questioning his leadership and ability. He can be a Tosser but most young bogans can be these days. You won't find anyone at Enfield that questions his leadership either. How was your track record captaining at Enfield btw? Did you ever captain a side to finals when you were here?? And I believe you had a much better side in the same division when you captained the B Grade?? Wouldn't catch you dead questioning your own leadership though hey??

Mark and Simon Arnold were the only 2 that went for the A Grade captaincy. We obviously seen no reason to disregard Marks appointment out of them 2. Motivation is quite clearly worth alot more then you may think in cricket and any sport. IMO!!

Actually Lairdy, my 1st season as captain of the B grade I took them to the semi final and were barely beaten by the eventual premiers Wingfield, so do your homework better buddy
It's no secret when I captained the A grade I had very limited success.
Did manage to captain a side to a premiership last season though..

Anyway, didn't Daniel captain a side to back to back grand finals a few years back?

And if you were 2nd in the runs last season with an average of 16 im surpised you managed to play finals at all but then again, Morialta B grade & Fitzroy B grade weren't very strong last season, and all though PV had a good year, historically aren't the strongest side going around either.

Jarrod Mcleod - won the assoc bowling, now doing very well in Div 1
Andy Ryan - former A grader, very much capable of still playing in Enfields A grade
James Hughes - former A grade captain and opening chucker.
Luke Mcleod - much like his brother, very capable cricketer

I'd be disappointed if those core group didnt take your side to the finals! Quality bowling line up for that grade!

[Phantom Gossiper]

I'm shocked your on a public forum questioning his leadership and ability!!

Question it? THERE IS VERY LITTLE!! And anyone who has played in your side or against you will agree

Why is it that despite how good you tell us you are or think you are, you still couldnt make any of the Enfield sides the other week even though you trained?

[grave digger]

U21s will be played sunday at kilburn sports ground 10.30 start .Final training will followed by a BBq wed nite still looking for players so dont be shy need a scorer on the day anyone let me know .

[bara-stick]

Pull your head in noel.
i wish the team all the best grave man. i know some of you have been waiting for my opinion on the young who left enfield but theres no hard feelings from me the lad wanted to improve himself good for him and he's doing good at it.

[Noel Craig]

Pull your head in noel.
i wish the team all the best grave man. i know some of you have been waiting for my opinion on the young who left enfield but theres no hard feelings from me the lad wanted to improve himself good for him and he's doing good at it.

You're not even from Enfield :S

[Cougar]

Smasha you seem to be a good judge of grade 1,what do you think of Rose park and are they any good. I fail to see how a team that struggles are sitting where they are at the moment, is it a lucky run?

We're a bunch of old hacks! We're just trying to avoid the wooden spoon

[Cougar]

Smasha in principle i agree with what your saying but the thing that really gets me is the lack of passion guys have to play in ass sides. Last year the coach had to ring around the night before games just to field an 11!

The point i make is whilst we all pick our best 11's etc etc the facts are we've never fielded our best 11 and probably never will through various reasons which is sad really.

For what its worth should the churches ever of fielded our best 11 i think alot of results whould've been alot differant.

but i do like the debate

I too like the debate.

Having had the privlege to represent the SACCCA last year, and having played a bit of rep cricket for rival comps, the Churches State comp far outweighs any others rivals association tournaments. For a very small fee, to take on rival states, on some of the best surfaces in the country, speaks volume for the National Championships. After speaking to a mate, who I'd previously played association with the at TVCA, he couldn't believe what a great chance the cricketers of the SACCCA have every 2nd year. So much so, he flirted with the idea of playing for Rose Park, just to get the opportunity to play in it next year!

I do hope Jeff Clarke (a walk in IMO) has a crack at it next year, but with the only chance of it being played between 27th December to the 31st, understand that lives and wives will never see any of the competing organisations at full strength. But for those thinking of having a crack at it next year, I thoroughly recommend it.

[bara-stick]

Pull your head in noel.
i wish the team all the best grave man. i know some of you have been waiting for my opinion on the young who left enfield but theres no hard feelings from me the lad wanted to improve himself good for him and he's doing good at it.

You're not even from Enfield :S

I never said i was. my wording probably wasnt the best but i got told there were no hard feelings.

[bara-stick]

I disagree with everything you rote smasha. can i have a team named after me now?

[grave digger]

On the State comp i agree coogs shocking time of year to try and recruit players to play away from home i did bring this up at the meeting last carnival hope it has not fallen on deaf ears .One week later could make all the differance to some and a lot easier for those trying to put the side together .It is a great time away with great blokes to win the thing would be even Greater agree with Smasha recruiting from Div 1 is a must also no its not that simple if the timeing was re jigged this may help

[carey]

On the State comp i agree coogs shocking time of year to try and recruit players to play away from home i did bring this up at the meeting last carnival hope it has not fallen on deaf ears .One week later could make all the differance to some and a lot easier for those trying to put the side together .It is a great time away with great blokes to win the thing would be even Greater agree with Smasha recruiting from Div 1 is a must also no its not that simple if the timeing was re jigged this may help

I to agree with the timing issue but this whole div1 thing is crap.

So the Enfield coach agrees to terms with Greg Blewett to play at Enfield but come ass. time we cant pick him cause his div 2??? FFS give me a break look at the big picture div 2 players can still play.......

[carey]

Another point i want to make is a lot of people on here hang a lot of sh!t on enfield yet i believe they'll finish 4th and may well be dangerous from there.

Yet there own players are on here and say and i quote "our season is finished' (not from where i sit)