Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

[Madportsman]

Heard from the horses mouth that Michael Thomas wont be playing cricket at all this year! Massive loss for cove then.. Apparently he has bought a GO-KART and wants to race competitvely. After not driving a car for 26 years reckons its in his blood.

Have also heard J Robshaw wont be playing for cove either this season. Another big loss, will be a good test of depth for the club.

[top gun]

Heard from the horses mouth that Michael Thomas wont be playing cricket at all this year! Massive loss for cove then.. Apparently he has bought a GO-KART and wants to race competitvely. After not driving a car for 26 years reckons its in his blood.

Have also heard J Robshaw wont be playing for cove either this season. Another big loss, will be a good test of depth for the club.

J Robshaw is going to stingrays for a go but got 3 big ins 1 represented vic state country last year,and 2 more very good cricketers.

[The Hunter]

Heard from the horses mouth that Michael Thomas wont be playing cricket at all this year! Massive loss for cove then.. Apparently he has bought a GO-KART and wants to race competitvely. After not driving a car for 26 years reckons its in his blood.

Have also heard J Robshaw wont be playing for cove either this season. Another big loss, will be a good test of depth for the club.

J Robshaw is going to stingrays for a go but got 3 big ins 1 represented vic state country last year,and 2 more very good cricketers.

got any names??

[bazza1]

This is from the St George cricket club.

PROPOSAL

St George Cricket Club Inc believe the appropriate strategy to enhance playing numbers in suburban cricket should focus on (1) reduced number of teams in sections and (2) playing more one day cricket.

We consider that the Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association should embrace this concept in future programming.

We advocate sections of 8 teams from the 2011-12 season onwards.

The 2010-11 season shall see Sections 1 and 2 having 12 teams with the remaining teams in the Association having 8 teams – this is in effect a sunset arrangement for teams in those sections to work themselves into 3 sections of 8 for the 2011-12 season.

In balancing teams in the 3 lowest sections, team allocation will range from 6-9 with any bye (7 or 9 teams) being allocated to the lowest section.

The Association Executive would determine promotions and demotions but in effect with smaller sections, a one up one down scenario should be encouraged

Sections of 8 allow 21 weeks of cricket with each side playing others once in a 2 day game and once in a one day game.

RATIONALE

Reducing teams in sections enables (1) more competitive cricket and (2) more teams participating in finals and (3) does not provide “backlogs” where teams cannot be promoted / demoted due to club having team in higher or lower section.

Playing additional one day cricket makes the Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association product more attractive to existing and prospective players.

We consider that the motion 13 defeated at last year’s annual general meeting has little relevance in this debate as it advocated a separate one day competition on the last Saturday of each two day game. A separate one day competition in this Association is not desirable as it may serve as a disincentive for players to compete in the two day format.

It is critical that programming balances one and two game matches across all sections.

We consider programming issues associated with the “sunset” season can be worked through – and, indeed, our club would be happy to take responsibility if elsewhere this task was considered too onerous.

[Booney]

This is from the St George cricket club.


We consider that the motion 13 defeated at last year’s annual general meeting has little relevance in this debate as it advocated a separate one day competition on the last Saturday of each two day game. A separate one day competition in this Association is not desirable as it may serve as a disincentive for players to compete in the two day format.

Or it may encourage people to play on longer as the two-day format does not fit in with their lifestyle, thus keeping more players in the game for longer. As opposed to the St.George suggestion of playing more cricket.

Why do they want Sections with only 8 teams in it? Nothing worse than repeatedly playing the same team as strengths / weakness' are further exposed.

Glad I'm not part of that idea.

[wycbloods]

This is from the St George cricket club.

PROPOSAL

St George Cricket Club Inc believe the appropriate strategy to enhance playing numbers in suburban cricket should focus on (1) reduced number of teams in sections and (2) playing more one day cricket.

We consider that the Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association should embrace this concept in future programming.

We advocate sections of 8 teams from the 2011-12 season onwards.

The 2010-11 season shall see Sections 1 and 2 having 12 teams with the remaining teams in the Association having 8 teams – this is in effect a sunset arrangement for teams in those sections to work themselves into 3 sections of 8 for the 2011-12 season.

In balancing teams in the 3 lowest sections, team allocation will range from 6-9 with any bye (7 or 9 teams) being allocated to the lowest section.

The Association Executive would determine promotions and demotions but in effect with smaller sections, a one up one down scenario should be encouraged

Sections of 8 allow 21 weeks of cricket with each side playing others once in a 2 day game and once in a one day game.

RATIONALE

Reducing teams in sections enables (1) more competitive cricket and (2) more teams participating in finals and (3) does not provide “backlogs” where teams cannot be promoted / demoted due to club having team in higher or lower section.

Playing additional one day cricket makes the Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association product more attractive to existing and prospective players.

We consider that the motion 13 defeated at last year’s annual general meeting has little relevance in this debate as it advocated a separate one day competition on the last Saturday of each two day game. A separate one day competition in this Association is not desirable as it may serve as a disincentive for players to compete in the two day format.

It is critical that programming balances one and two game matches across all sections.

We consider programming issues associated with the “sunset” season can be worked through – and, indeed, our club would be happy to take responsibility if elsewhere this task was considered too onerous.

My personal opinion on this one is that it stinks.

[Jabber]

Because 8 teams will make his system work properly with current fixturing.

Playing every side twice means 7x 2 dayers = 14 weeks, 7x 1 dayers = 7 weeks (total 21 weeks as it currently stands)

Sot here would be no more cricket being played than is currently being played now.

I read the email yesterday, i'm neither here nor there on it, if it happens ok, if it doesnt ok. meh.

It will remove any clubs that feel 'hard done by' playing a lower ranked side in a 1dayer, and vice versa.

A lot of thought went into it, well done.

This is from the St George cricket club.


We consider that the motion 13 defeated at last year’s annual general meeting has little relevance in this debate as it advocated a separate one day competition on the last Saturday of each two day game. A separate one day competition in this Association is not desirable as it may serve as a disincentive for players to compete in the two day format.

Or it may encourage people to play on longer as the two-day format does not fit in with their lifestyle, thus keeping more players in the game for longer. As opposed to the St.George suggestion of playing more cricket.

Why do they want Sections with only 8 teams in it? Nothing worse than repeatedly playing the same team as strengths / weakness' are further exposed.

Glad I'm not part of that idea.

[Booney]

By having sides play each other twice the gap between top and bottom in terms of win loss will be greater.

The top team playing the bottom team twice means two floggings for bottom and massive % for the top team.

Nothing worse than copping a pasting only to realise you have to play them again before the end of the year.

[Jabber]

By having sides play each other twice the gap between top and bottom in terms of win loss will be greater.

The top team playing the bottom team twice means two floggings for bottom and massive % for the top team.

Nothing worse than copping a pasting only to realise you have to play them again before the end of the year.

I'm not for it or against it, but you'd play each team in a 1 dayer and a 2 dayer, so i guess your not going to lose outright twice.

Footy teams cop a pasting and then front up 9 weeks later to play again.

2008/9 we beat ANA outright and thought they were not much chop and then they went on to win 7 in a row, so you could argue it gives sides more of a chance to improve.

[adelaide bank]

Hi Guys,

Just wondered if there is any news on recruits etc or players leaving.Have heard Morphies have picked up a few from flinders uni .What about other sides??? Im all for this it will improve the competition wich is good for all of us

[Amateur Footy]

Can't see the St George Proposal getting up. Which clubs in sect 1 would be happy to go down to sect 2 because we are reducing the number of sides in all sections? In sect 1-3 we should be playing all 2-day cricket as it gives bat and ball a decent opportunity.

[CoverKing]

That is an absolute joke IMo.
1 - it's coming from a club that is
not a massive influence! If a sheidow park, keswick ha this view then I would think about it more.
2- SCA have diminished to a lot more one dayers, n look at where their club is!
3- 2 day cricket gives all 11 players ago (more often then not). 40 over cricket does not do this! Especially in lower divisions!!
4- section 1 is about attracting quality Players! I would think a proposed competition like st georges won't help attract any players, or clubs!!!
5- playin every club once is good IMO. Get a side in a 1 dayer, so be it! Especially from our view, whoever u get in a 1 dayer, they can win! Not a true reflection IMO of the best sides!
6- booneys proposal kept players in the game for longer by playing every second week! Those that retired could do thus format, but not this new comp!
7- I enjoy fielding for 70 overs, fighting to beat a side and mental strength being a factor
in who wins! Our game against Glenelg ANA, even tho a final, has the chance of not happening in the future.
8- the rain/heat will have an effect on some games and produce another 1 or 2 one dayers throughout the year!
9- if this comes in, I would seriously consider leaving the comp!

[woodublieve12]

That is an absolute joke IMo.
1 - it's coming from a club that is
not a massive influence! If a sheidow park, keswick ha this view then I would think about it more.
2- SCA have diminished to a lot more one dayers, n look at where their club is!
3- 2 day cricket gives all 11 players ago (more often then not). 40 over cricket does not do this! Especially in lower divisions!!
4- section 1 is about attracting quality Players! I would think a proposed competition like st georges won't help attract any players, or clubs!!!
5- playin every club once is good IMO. Get a side in a 1 dayer, so be it! Especially from our view, whoever u get in a 1 dayer, they can win! Not a true reflection IMO of the best sides!
6- booneys proposal kept players in the game for longer by playing every second week! Those that retired could do thus format, but not this new comp!
7- I enjoy fielding for 70 overs, fighting to beat a side and mental strength being a factor
in who wins! Our game against Glenelg ANA, even tho a final, has the chance of not happening in the future.
8- the rain/heat will have an effect on some games and produce another 1 or 2 one dayers throughout the year!
9- if this comes in, I would seriously consider leaving the comp!

enjoy it!!!! I wish the was a generate button i could press...
i don't reckon the format should change either... we agreed on something

[Jabber]

That is an absolute joke IMo.
1 - it's coming from a club that is
not a massive influence! If a sheidow park, keswick ha this view then I would think about it more.
2- SCA have diminished to a lot more one dayers, n look at where their club is!
3- 2 day cricket gives all 11 players ago (more often then not). 40 over cricket does not do this! Especially in lower divisions!!
4- section 1 is about attracting quality Players! I would think a proposed competition like st georges won't help attract any players, or clubs!!!
5- playin every club once is good IMO. Get a side in a 1 dayer, so be it! Especially from our view, whoever u get in a 1 dayer, they can win! Not a true reflection IMO of the best sides!
6- booneys proposal kept players in the game for longer by playing every second week! Those that retired could do thus format, but not this new comp!
7- I enjoy fielding for 70 overs, fighting to beat a side and mental strength being a factor
in who wins! Our game against Glenelg ANA, even tho a final, has the chance of not happening in the future.
8- the rain/heat will have an effect on some games and produce another 1 or 2 one dayers throughout the year!
9- if this comes in, I would seriously consider leaving the comp!

enjoy it!!!! I wish the was a generate button i could press...
i don't reckon the format should change either... we agreed on something

Yep valid points, i've gone from not giving a **** either way, to now being happy with the current format...

If there was anythign at all i'd like to change thought it would be adding in another 1 dayer after xmas and turning the section 1 finals into a 3 week finals system, thats the only thing i've pushed for over the past couple of years.

[CoverKing]

That's something I completely agree wit Jabber!

First week after Xmas = clubs struggle for numbers! Solution is add an extra one dayer there! Will create an extra week for finals! Sections 2 and below stay as a 2 week system! Section 1 is a three system that rewards top two sides with a double chance but more importantly, provides a section 1 only weekend grand final! Section 1 would then hopefully have a big supporter base there for the grand final, from other sides at the club but also opposition clubs!

[Jabber]

That's something I completely agree wit Jabber!

First week after Xmas = clubs struggle for numbers! Solution is add an extra one dayer there! Will create an extra week for finals! Sections 2 and below stay as a 2 week system! Section 1 is a three system that rewards top two sides with a double chance but more importantly, provides a section 1 only weekend grand final! Section 1 would then hopefully have a big supporter base there for the grand final, from other sides at the club but also opposition clubs!

Spot on, make the section one GF a big day.

[dundee12]

That is an absolute joke IMo.
1 - it's coming from a club that is
not a massive influence! If a sheidow park, keswick ha this view then I would think about it more.
2- SCA have diminished to a lot more one dayers, n look at where their club is!
3- 2 day cricket gives all 11 players ago (more often then not). 40 over cricket does not do this! Especially in lower divisions!!
4- section 1 is about attracting quality Players! I would think a proposed competition like st georges won't help attract any players, or clubs!!!
5- playin every club once is good IMO. Get a side in a 1 dayer, so be it! Especially from our view, whoever u get in a 1 dayer, they can win! Not a true reflection IMO of the best sides!
6- booneys proposal kept players in the game for longer by playing every second week! Those that retired could do thus format, but not this new comp!
7- I enjoy fielding for 70 overs, fighting to beat a side and mental strength being a factor
in who wins! Our game against Glenelg ANA, even tho a final, has the chance of not happening in the future.
8- the rain/heat will have an effect on some games and produce another 1 or 2 one dayers throughout the year!
9- if this comes in, I would seriously consider leaving the comp!

Agree with you all not a good idea but not sure about massive influence comment. Sounds a little Indian Cricket Board for me. It was an idea (a bad one) but surely they are intilted to express somthing they obviously thought was good for the comp. Just sounds a little elitist.

I Think all sections should have a 3 week finals comp not just 1 and and 2, even in lower sections top 2 deserve a double chance. But its only my opinion and im only from Morphy Parks not 1 of the big 3....

[Jabber]

Who r the "big 3"

That is an absolute joke IMo.
1 - it's coming from a club that is
not a massive influence! If a sheidow park, keswick ha this view then I would think about it more.
2- SCA have diminished to a lot more one dayers, n look at where their club is!
3- 2 day cricket gives all 11 players ago (more often then not). 40 over cricket does not do this! Especially in lower divisions!!
4- section 1 is about attracting quality Players! I would think a proposed competition like st georges won't help attract any players, or clubs!!!
5- playin every club once is good IMO. Get a side in a 1 dayer, so be it! Especially from our view, whoever u get in a 1 dayer, they can win! Not a true reflection IMO of the best sides!
6- booneys proposal kept players in the game for longer by playing every second week! Those that retired could do thus format, but not this new comp!
7- I enjoy fielding for 70 overs, fighting to beat a side and mental strength being a factor
in who wins! Our game against Glenelg ANA, even tho a final, has the chance of not happening in the future.
8- the rain/heat will have an effect on some games and produce another 1 or 2 one dayers throughout the year!
9- if this comes in, I would seriously consider leaving the comp!

Agree with you all not a good idea but not sure about massive influence comment. Sounds a little Indian Cricket Board for me. It was an idea (a bad one) but surely they are intilted to express somthing they obviously thought was good for the comp. Just sounds a little elitist.

I Think all sections should have a 3 week finals comp not just 1 and and 2, even in lower sections top 2 deserve a double chance. But its only my opinion and im only from Morphy Parks not 1 of the big 3....

[dundee12]

Was just going off coverkings mention of Keswick, Sheidow etc. Im sure he wasn't just meaning them, was just making a point.

[Amateur Footy]

The big clubs are those with the most teams and are entitled to two votes per team at the AGM. The more teams = more votes if you can get enough people from your club to the AGM.

Also, I heard a nasty rumour about Sambo moving from ICC for some $$$. Given that the President of the club in question has denied his club has ever made payments to players and dislikes ICC for offering incentives to players, I'm sure it can't be true.