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the place kick

Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:38 pm
by bayman
when was it outlawed ? & i believe mick clingly (west torrens) was the last player to kick a place kick
for those that are unsure what a place kick is, it is when you see a rugby player (league or union) line up for the 'conversion kick' (ie kicking it off the ground)
Re: the place kick

Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:44 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
I wasn't aware it had been outlawed, I just assumed the kick took too much time to effect so just disappeared from the game.
Re: the place kick

Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:50 pm
by bayman
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I wasn't aware it had been outlawed, I just assumed the kick took too much time to effect so just disappeared from the game.
i'll stand corrected AH, but i thought it was outlawed/against the rules
will text a mate who is a league umpire & ask him
Re: the place kick

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Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:52 am
by CK
I will equally stand corrected, but I don't believe its been outlawed from the game either - no more than the drop kick, they just simply disappeared from the game over time. Many fans I know who grew up through the 50's and 60's have long said that the loss of the drop kick is one of the more disappointing aspects of modern football, due to its sheer accuracy.
When I coached junior colts in the country, one of my players used to use the drop kick nearly all the time in game play and I encouraged it strongly. Amazing how many parents were horrified to see it.
Re: the place kick

Posted:
Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:36 am
by Psyber
I used the drop kick when I was playing goalie for a lower grade Soccer team in about 1960.
It gave me more distance and accuracy, and it startled the European and English kids at first.
Re: the place kick

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Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:29 pm
by whufc
Psyber wrote:I used the drop kick when I was playing goalie for a lower grade Soccer team in about 1960.
It gave me more distance and accuracy, and it startled the European and English kids at first.
Surprised! watch any 1950's soccer footage and photos and the keepers were using drop kicks even back then in world cups, fa cups etc etc.
Re: the place kick

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Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:02 pm
by Psyber
whufc wrote:Psyber wrote:I used the drop kick when I was playing goalie for a lower grade Soccer team in about 1960.
It gave me more distance and accuracy, and it startled the European and English kids at first.
Surprised! watch any 1950's soccer footage and photos and the keepers were using drop kicks even back then in world cups, fa cups etc etc.
I'd had nothing to do with Soccer before I was co-opted as the sole Aussie in the team, so I'd never seen any film of it.
None of the lot I played with seemed to have either - mind you they were mainly Poms, and Greeks..

Re: the place kick

Posted:
Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:52 pm
by mal
Longest place kicks
IN COMPETITION
Measured in yards and feet and inches
89.2 D MCNAMARA [SK] AT SCG 1914
86.1 D MCNAMARA [SK] AT LAUNCESTON 1913
84.2.5 B PAULMAN [USA] STANFORD UNI 1938
NOT IN COMPETITION
107.2.1 A THURGOOD [ES] AT EAST MELB assisted by slight breeze
105.1 D MCNAMARA [SK] SCG 1914 slight wind
103.2 J LEITH [ML] MCG 1905 slight wind
102.1 D MCNAMARA [SK] AT SK 1913 no wind
102.0 D MCNAMARA [ES] ESS RESERVE 1912 against breeze
101.O A THURGOOD [ES] EASY MELB 1901 no wind
98.0 A ROBERTSON [PORT MELB] PORT MELB 1941
Dave Mcnamara was considered one of the longest place kickers going around
i have got those distances from a Sporting Globe Publication
Have read elsewhere this comment :
Despite folklore Mcnamara did not kick the ball 100 yards but went mighty close
Mcnamara played for SK then ES and then came back to SK
I did a search and found this :
89.2 in Sydney in 1914
93.O a world record in 1923
Whichever we believe varies
But to dob a place kick in his world record kick of 93.0 yards is massive
93.0 is about 85 metres
Re: the place kick

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:28 pm
by bayman
according to my mate (an sanfl umpire) who checked, the place kick is now illegal in footy
Re: the place kick

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:49 pm
by Psyber
In that case "Bring it back!"
Re: the place kick

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:56 pm
by bayman
Psyber wrote:In that case "Bring it back!"
do you have anyone in mind Psyber ?
(after watching today perhaps it could work for Brett Ebert)
Re: the place kick

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:00 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
bayman wrote:according to my mate (an sanfl umpire) who checked, the place kick is now illegal in footy
I'd like to know what law says you can't place kick.
Re: the place kick

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:04 pm
by bayman
Adelaide Hawk wrote:bayman wrote:according to my mate (an sanfl umpire) who checked, the place kick is now illegal in footy
I'd like to know what law says you can't place kick.
i'll find out for you AH in the next day or so
Re: the place kick

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:40 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
bayman wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:bayman wrote:according to my mate (an sanfl umpire) who checked, the place kick is now illegal in footy
I'd like to know what law says you can't place kick.
i'll find out for you AH in the next day or so
Cheers.
Re: the place kick

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:51 pm
by mickey
bayman wrote:according to my mate (an sanfl umpire) who checked, the place kick is now illegal in footy
Hope your mate isn't the ageing cripple who can't bounce the ball anymore who umpired today
