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SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:33 pm
by damian
SA Indigenous Dream Team
For a player to be eligible they must have either;
Be born in South Australia
Played five or more years for an SANFL Club
Played five or more years for an SA based AFL Club
Played five or more years for an SA Community Football Club
Played a combined five or more years with an SANFL Club, SA based AFL Club and an SA Community Football Club.
I would suggest automatic inclusion for the following players as members of the Australian Indigenous Team of the Century;
Andrew McLeod (Adelaide FC)
Adam Goodes (SA Born - Sydney)
David Kantilla (South Adelaide FC)
Gavin Wanganeen (Port Adelaide FC)
Michael O'Loughin (SA Born - Central District/Sydney)
Peter Burgoyne (Port Adelaide FC)
Michael Graham (Sturt)
Byron Pickett (Port Adelaide FC)
Others players to consider may include;
Graham Johncock
Shaun Burgoyne
Daniel Motlop
Shannon Motlop
Troy Bond
Shane Bond
I'd then be interested to hear peoples thoughts on ou Country footballers, Aboriginal players that have won Mail Medals, Premierships etc.
See how you go!
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:54 pm
by tigerpie
two that i have witnessed..gary and ian croft for west whyalla in the 70's both played in several premierships in a row.great reflexes.if gary dropped a snag at a barby, ian would catch it an inch from the ground! i would swap pickett for johncock.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:04 pm
by damian
tigerpie wrote:two that i have witnessed..gary and ian croft for west whyalla in the 70's both played in several premierships in a row.great reflexes.if gary dropped a snag at a barby, ian would catch it an inch from the ground! i would swap pickett for johncock.
We'll throw them in for consideration and have a look into the brothers.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:07 pm
by whufc
What about Gilbert McAdam, Eddie Hocking or even Elijah Ware (3 time premiership player), Eddie Sansbury (cue dutchy) 3 time SANFL premiership player, 2 time VFL premiership player.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:12 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Greg McAdam
Wilbur Wilson
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:22 pm
by GWW
whufc wrote:What about Gilbert McAdam, Eddie Hocking or even Elijah Ware (3 time premiership player), Eddie Sansbury (cue dutchy) 3 time SANFL premiership player, 2 time VFL premiership player.
McAdam is the only realistic candidate of those, but being from NT may exclude him. Ware is a long way off.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:27 pm
by GWW
I would also nominate Roger Rigney and Ross Agius.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:44 pm
by sjt
Peter Vivian? sorry couldn't resist
Soney Morey, (but I never saw him play).
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:45 pm
by Mythical Creature
Troy "flash" Wittwer
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:50 pm
by am Bays
Did David Kantilla play for five seasons at South?
Seeing as he was born on the Tiwi islanders, may not be eligible based on those criteria??
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:10 pm
by Wedgie
The 2 Motlops and McLeod came from he NT, if you're including Goodes in your team you cant include them.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:17 pm
by sjt
Wedgie wrote:The 2 Motlops and McLeod came from he NT, if you're including Goodes in your team you cant include them.
Under his criteria
"For a player to be eligible they must have
either.......
"Played a combined five or more years with an SANFL Club, SA based AFL Club and an SA Community Football Club."
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:26 pm
by Freo HeaveHo
Swap johncock for pickett you are kidding me aren't you. On what basis ???? Think choppys resume of 200 games to premierships and a norm smith well and truly has Stiffy covered
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:27 pm
by Freo HeaveHo
Two* flags sorry
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:38 pm
by Dogwatcher
Gilby McAdam probably wouldn't have played the required five years.
However, he was the first Aboriginal to win the Magarey.
Still the only one?
On this fact alone, I think it would be an oversight not to pick him.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:52 pm
by damian
am Bays wrote:Did David Kantilla play for five seasons at South?
Seeing as he was born on the Tiwi islanders, may not be eligible based on those criteria??
He fits the criteria having played from 1961 until the end of 1966 (6 seasons). He won the Best & fairest in his first two years, played in the 1964 Premiership and is recognised as the first Indigenous player to play in the SANFL. He played in four State matches for SA in 1964 & 65.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:00 pm
by damian
Dogwatcher wrote:Gilby McAdam probably wouldn't have played the required five years.
However, he was the first Aboriginal to win the Magarey.
Still the only one?
On this fact alone, I think it would be an oversight not to pick him.
Gilbert played for North Adelaide from 1983-85 (U17-Reserves) then played League footy for Central District in 1988 (Runner-up to Greg Anderson in the Magarey) and 1989 (won the Magarey Medal). After years i the AFL system, Gilbert finished with his sixth season in the SANFL in 1998 with the Dogs.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:03 pm
by sjt
damian wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Gilby McAdam probably wouldn't have played the required five years.
However, he was the first Aboriginal to win the Magarey.
Still the only one?
On this fact alone, I think it would be an oversight not to pick him.
Gilbert played for North Adelaide from 1983-85 (U17-Reserves) then played League footy for Central District in 1988 (Runner-up to Greg Anderson in the Magarey) and 1989 (won the Magarey Medal). After years i the AFL system, Gilbert finished with his sixth season in the SANFL in 1998 with the Dogs.
Ha, beat me to it Damian, I was just going to also add, "would qualify for the five years, and as a champion, brilliant to watch".
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

Posted:
Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:11 pm
by Dogwatcher
I questioned the five years, as I wasn't sure if you were including lower grades or just time spent playing league.
Ta for the info.
Glad he qualifies.
Re: SA Indigenous Dream Team 1858 - 2011

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:32 pm
by JK
Wilbur Wilson?
Were Michael Long or Derek Kickett here for long enough?
There was another Graham who played for Centrals in the 80's, left footer, that I always thought went alright, Colin maybe?